Listers, Would anyone know what given names for which the nickname sookey was used? Ann

I am inquiring about my great-grandmother who was married to a local boy to New Haven, Franklin Co., Mo. His name was Thomas Irving Shelton born Nov 13, 1844. Her name was Virginia Caroline Ellis born Dec 11, 1847 in Va., married Thomas Irving Crook in 1868 I think in Missouri but not sure, lived in NewHaven and had three children there in 1869, 1870 and 1872. She died there on March 8, 1873. She is buried there in that area somewhere. I would very much appreciate having any information you may find. I have a picture of the family and a portrait of her before marrying. The children's names were Mattie, Laura and an infant Eugene Sylvester Shelton, who died Aug 18, 1873, living only nine months. The mother (Virginia) lived only four months after the birth so I feel there was a connection there, possibly complications. Was that an influenza year? In the census of 1880, in Boef enumeration district, I find the fatherThomas and the two daughters living with his brother Wayne Shelton and his family. The end of the story is that the girls married and spent their lives on the west coast, Portland area, and Thomas married again and had another family and he died in Portland also in 1909. Thanks again in advance for any scrap or tidbit of info. Jack in Vancouver,Wa

Dear List Subscribers, First, I would like to apologize for not being more involved during the past six weeks or so. My son and his wife split up and he has been staying with us, along with his two young sons. Needless to say, this change in the size of our household has placed a lot of new demands on me. He has returned to his own house but I will still be watching his boys after school and doing other things to help him through this difficult divorce; however, my zeal for history/genealogy has not lessened and I will continue to devote as much time to my passion as I can spare! I am going to establish a place on the Franklin County Genealogical website http://www.rootsweb.com/~mofrankl/index.html for photographs of Franklin County veterans from all U.S. wars. If you have any photographs you feel would be appropriate for this site, please send them to me at scooley@worldnet.att.net It has not yet been established as I need some photographs to "seed" the site. Can you help? I am hoping to set up separate pages for each war as soon as I have enough photographs. Some additional biographical information about the veteran can be included if available. In addition, I am still in quest of rural school photos, memorabilia, and information, for posting. Thank you for your patience during my silence! Sue Cooley Franklin County Coordinator Missouri USGenWeb Project and Board Administrator

Thank you for the offer. Can you find anything on Lindsey? I appreciate your help. Pat

This is a very kind offer. Anything would be appreciated on the families of Gregory and McAllister...Thank You very much. Phyllis

This is a very kind offer. Can you please look up the surname LEPORIN. Thank you. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: <AMEON79@aol.com> To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: [MOFRANKL-L] Lookup offer I found more > I have some material that I will offer to do lookups for. > Births and Baptisms,St. John the Baptist Church,Gildehaus,Franklin > County,Missouri.1874-1878 > > Baptisms,Immanuel Evangelical-Lutheran Church,Pilot Knob Mo. 1861-1895 > > Births and Baptisms,St.Gertrude Catholic Church ,Krakow,Mo. 1885-1889 > > St. Joseph Parish,Neire,Franklin County,Missouri.Births and Baptisms > 1905-1911 > St.Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington,Franklin County,Missouri.Births > and Baptisms 1890-1891...N.J. > >

I have some material that I will offer to do lookups for. Births and Baptisms,St. John the Baptist Church,Gildehaus,Franklin County,Missouri.1874-1878 Baptisms,Immanuel Evangelical-Lutheran Church,Pilot Knob Mo. 1861-1895 Births and Baptisms,St.Gertrude Catholic Church ,Krakow,Mo. 1885-1889 St. Joseph Parish,Neire,Franklin County,Missouri.Births and Baptisms 1905-1911 St.Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington,Franklin County,Missouri.Births and Baptisms 1890-1891...N.J.

I have some material that I will offer to do lookups for. St.Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington,Franklin County,Missouri.Births and Baptisms 1890-1891...N.J.

Can anyone tell me, please, if there is a marriage record in Franklin County for Rachel A Buckner, anytime between 1877-1883? Thank you. Saralie Northam

The reason the directory Bev Green refers to listed the location as 12 mi se of Union is that there was no St. Clair at the time. George Hearst defined it in relationship to Sullivan for the same reason. I am interested in any and all information related to this community. Sue I found "A Directory of Towns, Villages, and Hamlets Past and Present of Franklin County, Missouri" compiled by Arthur Paul Moser on the internet. The site http://198.209.8.166/moser/franklinpl.html It listed Virginia Mines as 12 miles southeast of Union. Section 16 TWP 41 N, R. 1E

Ann, The Virginia Mines were at the end of the road where you lived -- down past the White Acres community and partly located on the Loraine Dierking property. In fact, the mines reopened during WWII and I believe your father might have worked there briefly. Your mother donated a miner's cap to the St. Clair museum and she believed he had worn it when he worked there; however, someone else told me they thought it was from the Pea Ridge mines and I believe he also worked there. I don't know where the cap was from but it was a nice miner's cap with the acetylene light on it. The Virginia Mines street in St. Clair continued out what is now Highway K and then followed what is now called Virginia Mines Road (where you lived) out to the mines and across the river (forded -- no bridge) toward the Virginia Mines Baptist Church. Virginia Mines was a thriving community in the 1800s before St. Clair (first called Traveller's Repose) was ever a village. When it became known where the railroad was going to be built, several influential Virginia Mines people moved to St. Clair to be near the railroad and more followed after the railroad came. There is a cemetery on the property known as Hidden Valley on a hillside where three Inge children were buried with matching headstones. There were probably other graves there as well. I believe Ken Middleton (a local archaelogist, now deceased) told me there were close to 100 graves in the cemetery, but the stones are gone. George Hearst first learned about mining at the Virginia Mines according to his own writings, and he became a famous mining engineer (and U.S. Senator) in the West. The school at Virginia Mines was known as The Academy. I would be interested in knowing what marriage record you have found and whatever information that might have been included. Sue Cooley > I just found a marriage record that has the marriage taking place at > Virginia Mines, Franklin Co., MO. I was raised on a road in Franklin Co., > MO that was called Virginia Mines. Does anyone know where the Virginia > Mines mentioned in the marriage record is/was located. The Virginia Mines > Road where I was raised was about 3 miles outside St. Clair, Franklin Co., > MO. > Thanks for any help anyone can give me. > Ann

I just found a marriage record that has the marriage taking place at Virginia Mines, Franklin Co., MO. I was raised on a road in Franklin Co., MO that was called Virginia Mines. Does anyone know where the Virginia Mines mentioned in the marriage record is/was located. The Virginia Mines Road where I was raised was about 3 miles outside St. Clair, Franklin Co., MO. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. Ann

During the next few days, www.vienici.com will be moving to a new web host. The site is moving to Wye Net, a Missouri based firm. When a move like this takes place, the new IP address of the site is rolled out to servers around the country. This roll out takes place a different times for different servers. During the rollout, you may experience difficulty reaching the site. You may have probelms reaching me. This generally lasts for a few hours, you may not notice any problems at all. If you have problems, you can access the site at the address 66.34.4.29 during the move. Just temporarily subsitute those numbers in place of the vienici in any links. I also have email service at mailto:its_2_am@yahoo.com Brian J. Oster Brian_Oster@vienici.com webmaster http://www.vienici.com

Hello to All, I am in desperate need of some help on two of my family lines that pertain to Franklin County. Dyson -- McCoy Dyson is listed in the 1880 Census in Boeuf County with his family. There is no record of him before or after this date. I know that he was in NC as late as 1857. The Census list his oldest child as 16 and being born in MO which puts him in the area in 1864. I know that he also had an older daughter who was born in MO in 1859. So my question is this? How is it that he is not listed in the 1860, 1870 ... 1890 or 1900 Census Records? Family Folklore has it that McCoy Dyson stayed in the Franklin County area all of his adult life. Any suggestions on where else to search out his whereabouts? Kaiser -- Is there anyone out there with any experience in looking into county court issues? Family Folklore has it that John Kiser, of Franklin County (1874-???) was sentenced to a twenty year stretch for an assault. The time period was around 1910ish. How would I go about verifying this information? Thanks for any and all suggestions!

One possible reason that you don't find him in the other census years is because of name spellings. Also, you might check a nearby county (Jefferson, St. Louis COUNTY). Another, you won't find him listed in the 1890 census, because there is no 1890 census. Well, some parts survived a fire, but none for Missouri. The 1890 directories won't help either, because they were for the city (St. Louis). But you really should check out different spellings, and a nearby county. Good luck! Michelle muesic@msn.com http://muesicmo.tripod.com <snip> Dyson -- McCoy Dyson is listed in the 1880 Census in Boeuf County with his family. There is no record of him before or after this date. I know that he was in NC as late as 1857. The Census list his oldest child as 16 and being born in MO which puts him in the area in 1864. I know that he also had an older daughter who was born in MO in 1859. So my question is this? How is it that he is not listed in the 1860, 1870 ... 1890 or 1900 Census Records? Family Folklore has it that McCoy Dyson stayed in the Franklin County area all of his adult life. Any suggestions on where else to search out his whereabouts?

FYI Hesse was formerly part of Prussia. It is now part of Germany. Beverly Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Malone" <rmalone@fidnet.com> To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > Dear Alan, > > One additional item - I found an August Fred Weber in the Naturalization > Records. He became an American citizen on September 19, 1853 and gives his > birthplace as "Hesse." His sponsors were Eberhard Huneke and Henry Tamm. > For a complete copy with lots more information, ask the County Clerk of > Franklin County for "CC E-159." > > Good luck. > > Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Malone" <rmalone@fidnet.com> > To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > > > > Dear Alan, > > > > I thought the surnames in your post rang a bell so I checked through > the > > records at our church and came up with some of the same names if not the > > same individuals. I'm sending them in case they may be of some use to > you. > > These are from the Birth and Baptism Records of St. John's Mantels United > > Church of Christ. This church was originally known as the "German > > Evangelical Protestant Church of St. John's Township." It was founded in > > 1843 and is on what used to be the main highway between Union and > > Washington. > > > > Jan. 18, 1860 Johann Victor Weber born. The son of Carl Weber > > and Marie (Daetwiler). His Baptism on > > 10-2-1860 was witnessed by Johann Daetwiler (my note: > This > > witness was probably not the father.) > > > > Feb. 2, 1860 Katharine Louise Kaiser born. The daughter of > > Adolph Kaiser and Louise (Daetweiler). Her Baptism was on > > 10-2-1860 and it was witnessed by Carl and Marie Weber listed just above. > > > > I think that this Carl and Marie are probably the same folks as your > > Charles and Marie - What do you think? Charles would have been a very > > unusual name for a German man or boy but these folks often "Americanized" > > their names as they tried to fit in. For instance, Heinrich became Henry > or > > Johann became John as time went by. > > > > Another Weber in the records was Dr. August Weber who died June 10, > 1856 > > of colitis. He was listed as 30 years, > > 2 months, and 12 days old at the time. On July 25, 1882 another August > > Weber died. This young man had Tuberculosis and was only 26 years and 11 > > months at the time of his death. Both of these men are buried in what is > > called the "Old Cemetery" which is right next to the church. I hope some > of > > this information can help you. Good luck in your research. > > > > Ross Malone > > rmalone@fidnet.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Alanrr2@aol.com> > > To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:33 PM > > Subject: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > > > Again I am after information on the death of my Greatgrandfather and > > > Greatgrandmother, Charles and Marie Madelaine WEBER (nee DATWEILER). > > Charles > > > died in 1868 in Washington, MO. I have a copy of the probate papers > dated > > 12 > > > June 1868. I checked the St. John's Township Cemetery book and I cannot > > find > > > him. After Charles' died Marie married Frederick HENDRICH on 4 April > 1872 > > in > > > Washington, MO. I think that she died before 1880, as she is not in the > > 1880 > > > census. Her name is not listed in the St. John's cemetery book. Their > son, > > > Johann Victor WEBER, is listed in the St. John's book at the Wildey's > IOOF > > > Cemetery, died 29 April 1878 in Lot 122. Would it be possible that > Charles > > > and Marie as also buried in Lot 112 or adjacent to it? > > > > > > If they are not there, can somebody check in adjacent Township Cemetery > > books > > > for me? > > > > > > Alan Rossing, Monterey, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Alan, One additional item - I found an August Fred Weber in the Naturalization Records. He became an American citizen on September 19, 1853 and gives his birthplace as "Hesse." His sponsors were Eberhard Huneke and Henry Tamm. For a complete copy with lots more information, ask the County Clerk of Franklin County for "CC E-159." Good luck. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Malone" <rmalone@fidnet.com> To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > Dear Alan, > > I thought the surnames in your post rang a bell so I checked through the > records at our church and came up with some of the same names if not the > same individuals. I'm sending them in case they may be of some use to you. > These are from the Birth and Baptism Records of St. John's Mantels United > Church of Christ. This church was originally known as the "German > Evangelical Protestant Church of St. John's Township." It was founded in > 1843 and is on what used to be the main highway between Union and > Washington. > > Jan. 18, 1860 Johann Victor Weber born. The son of Carl Weber > and Marie (Daetwiler). His Baptism on > 10-2-1860 was witnessed by Johann Daetwiler (my note: This > witness was probably not the father.) > > Feb. 2, 1860 Katharine Louise Kaiser born. The daughter of > Adolph Kaiser and Louise (Daetweiler). Her Baptism was on > 10-2-1860 and it was witnessed by Carl and Marie Weber listed just above. > > I think that this Carl and Marie are probably the same folks as your > Charles and Marie - What do you think? Charles would have been a very > unusual name for a German man or boy but these folks often "Americanized" > their names as they tried to fit in. For instance, Heinrich became Henry or > Johann became John as time went by. > > Another Weber in the records was Dr. August Weber who died June 10, 1856 > of colitis. He was listed as 30 years, > 2 months, and 12 days old at the time. On July 25, 1882 another August > Weber died. This young man had Tuberculosis and was only 26 years and 11 > months at the time of his death. Both of these men are buried in what is > called the "Old Cemetery" which is right next to the church. I hope some of > this information can help you. Good luck in your research. > > Ross Malone > rmalone@fidnet.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Alanrr2@aol.com> > To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:33 PM > Subject: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > Again I am after information on the death of my Greatgrandfather and > > Greatgrandmother, Charles and Marie Madelaine WEBER (nee DATWEILER). > Charles > > died in 1868 in Washington, MO. I have a copy of the probate papers dated > 12 > > June 1868. I checked the St. John's Township Cemetery book and I cannot > find > > him. After Charles' died Marie married Frederick HENDRICH on 4 April 1872 > in > > Washington, MO. I think that she died before 1880, as she is not in the > 1880 > > census. Her name is not listed in the St. John's cemetery book. Their son, > > Johann Victor WEBER, is listed in the St. John's book at the Wildey's IOOF > > Cemetery, died 29 April 1878 in Lot 122. Would it be possible that Charles > > and Marie as also buried in Lot 112 or adjacent to it? > > > > If they are not there, can somebody check in adjacent Township Cemetery > books > > for me? > > > > Alan Rossing, Monterey, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Alan, I thought the surnames in your post rang a bell so I checked through the records at our church and came up with some of the same names if not the same individuals. I'm sending them in case they may be of some use to you. These are from the Birth and Baptism Records of St. John's Mantels United Church of Christ. This church was originally known as the "German Evangelical Protestant Church of St. John's Township." It was founded in 1843 and is on what used to be the main highway between Union and Washington. Jan. 18, 1860 Johann Victor Weber born. The son of Carl Weber and Marie (Daetwiler). His Baptism on 10-2-1860 was witnessed by Johann Daetwiler (my note: This witness was probably not the father.) Feb. 2, 1860 Katharine Louise Kaiser born. The daughter of Adolph Kaiser and Louise (Daetweiler). Her Baptism was on 10-2-1860 and it was witnessed by Carl and Marie Weber listed just above. I think that this Carl and Marie are probably the same folks as your Charles and Marie - What do you think? Charles would have been a very unusual name for a German man or boy but these folks often "Americanized" their names as they tried to fit in. For instance, Heinrich became Henry or Johann became John as time went by. Another Weber in the records was Dr. August Weber who died June 10, 1856 of colitis. He was listed as 30 years, 2 months, and 12 days old at the time. On July 25, 1882 another August Weber died. This young man had Tuberculosis and was only 26 years and 11 months at the time of his death. Both of these men are buried in what is called the "Old Cemetery" which is right next to the church. I hope some of this information can help you. Good luck in your research. Ross Malone rmalone@fidnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alanrr2@aol.com> To: <MOFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: [MOFRANKL-L] WEBER family Cemetery location > Hello Listers, > > Again I am after information on the death of my Greatgrandfather and > Greatgrandmother, Charles and Marie Madelaine WEBER (nee DATWEILER). Charles > died in 1868 in Washington, MO. I have a copy of the probate papers dated 12 > June 1868. I checked the St. John's Township Cemetery book and I cannot find > him. After Charles' died Marie married Frederick HENDRICH on 4 April 1872 in > Washington, MO. I think that she died before 1880, as she is not in the 1880 > census. Her name is not listed in the St. John's cemetery book. Their son, > Johann Victor WEBER, is listed in the St. John's book at the Wildey's IOOF > Cemetery, died 29 April 1878 in Lot 122. Would it be possible that Charles > and Marie as also buried in Lot 112 or adjacent to it? > > If they are not there, can somebody check in adjacent Township Cemetery books > for me? > > Alan Rossing, Monterey, CA > > > > >

Hello Listers, Again I am after information on the death of my Greatgrandfather and Greatgrandmother, Charles and Marie Madelaine WEBER (nee DATWEILER). Charles died in 1868 in Washington, MO. I have a copy of the probate papers dated 12 June 1868. I checked the St. John's Township Cemetery book and I cannot find him. After Charles' died Marie married Frederick HENDRICH on 4 April 1872 in Washington, MO. I think that she died before 1880, as she is not in the 1880 census. Her name is not listed in the St. John's cemetery book. Their son, Johann Victor WEBER, is listed in the St. John's book at the Wildey's IOOF Cemetery, died 29 April 1878 in Lot 122. Would it be possible that Charles and Marie as also buried in Lot 112 or adjacent to it? If they are not there, can somebody check in adjacent Township Cemetery books for me? Alan Rossing, Monterey, CA

Good day to all, Can anyone out there that subscribes to these lists point me in the right direction? I am desperately trying to locate someone who has any oral history on specific people of the the Barton Dyson clan. I am particularly interested in the following people: Bartons son - Descendents of William Dyson; his son Thomas married his cousin Anna. The three of them migrated to MO (Franklin County) in 1840 from Iredell County, NC. William also had a son named Wilson, who was never married and went to Missouri with them as well. Thomas and Anna died in Gasconade County. Barton's daughter - Descendents of Martha Dyson Robey: her son Absalom Robey and her daughter Betsy Robey Holeman. Absalom ended up in Surry County. He was married twice and had no children. Betsy & her husband ended up in Granville, NC. I am going to post this to the other respective county boards and see what comes up. I have dates and more specifics available, if anyone else is researching these lines. Thank you for your time