This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Smallwood & Compton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/1119 Message Board Post: Im from Coweta Ok my great grandma was Daisy Compton Smallwood we believe she was married in Hartshorn, to my Great-Grandpa Clive or Grover Cleveland Smallwood.We do know that my grandmother was born in Harthorn her name is Trophel Tyron Smallwood, we believe my great grandfathers sister was the first navtive Miss America & she married Thomas Gilcrease. This is only been a rumor in my family do not know for sure.

This is a follow-up to my recent post about needed access to Vital Records. The problem is not that the vital records cannot be accessed; they can. For a fee, the staff at the Department of Health will search for a record. If they find it, they will send a copy. Too often the response is that they found no record. I sought birth and death data re my aunt, who died before her brother, my father, was born. He told me that her given name was Mildred. I sent my money for searches and was advised that no records were found. I found her baptismal record by a different given name. It happens that the relevant records in this case were not held by the Mo. Dept. of Health, and I was able to review the hand-written birth and death records. I found her birth record by a third given name, but, by the time she died, she was indeed Mildred. A staff simply cannot locate a record under such circumstances. A researcher can, but depends on access to the data. My grandmother's maiden name was very difficult to spell. I knew the ship and arrival date of her aunt (same surname). It took me three times thru a transcription of the ship list to recognize her thoroughly-butchered name. Of course, I could not find her name in the index. I never did find her sister who was with her. My name is Doerr; in an old list, it is spelled 'Ter'. Only by searching the original records, or microforms thereof, can one find the needed data in such cases. (I guess I now have an idea as to how my ancestors pronounced our name.) The researcher has patience and incentive to find the data; any staff must depend on their imperfect indexes and the Health Department has incentive to send a 'no find' letter. Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hutson, Mincher, Vaughn ,Brockes, Carter, Sturgill Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/1118 Message Board Post: Dear Jean, Recieved your message throught the board. I couldn't figure how it got to me, with Dortheys name on it. THen it connected, that I was the original message person. Anyhow, Dorthy James and I are all from the same line. George being our forerunner in MO. My Grandfather wqs Morgan, who was brother to Mabel, Saint, Gentry, > I am from Steelville orginally, but a transplant in Florida also. I haven't been in touch with James or Dorthey lately, but anyone of us I am sure will share info. Let me know what you need.

Records at risk A number of kinds of records that are of value for family historians are often at risk because only the originals exist. Thus, they are at risk of discard as old and value-less, or of fire, storm, mold, age-related deterioration or vandalism. These include mainly school records (teachers daily records that show the names of the pupils, often their parents or guardians), bible records, sexton's records, mortuary records and church records. You may know of others. Some business records are also valuable, if only indirectly. (Fortunately, in Missouri, most courthouse records have been microfilmed, but it pays to check with the officials to be sure.) There are several ways to reduce the risk of loss of these records. These include photocopying, microfilming (with the negatives stored safely, at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or at the State Archives), photography, copying to CD or DVD, and publication in a well-distributed and well-indexed organ. By well-indexed, I mean both name-indexed within the organ and, for periodicals, indexed in Periodical Source Index (PERSI). For the present, a procedure of both publication and filming on silver (not color) film provides the most security. That way, both an image of the original and an indexed transcription is preserved. Digital recording media change so often that the records may become unavailable when the system for reading the media become obsolete and are discarded. This is to urge all those interested in family history to search for such records and to see to the protection of all those found. If you cannot make the rounds of your local courthouses and historical societies and museums, please call around, and use mail or e-mail. Judgment is needed as to where to publish. Church, school, sexton's and mortuary records are best published in a local magazine if it is indexed in PERSI. Bible records, which, by the way, do not lend themselves to microfilming, are best published in a magazine that covers the area in which the family lived, or in a magazine of regional or state-wide coverage if the family extends beyond, say, a county. I offer publication of good transcriptions in the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal. The Journal is widely distributed, has a good annual index, and is indexed in PERSI. I can work from good photocopies or scans of the originals. There is, of course, no charge for publishing in the Journal, and submitters receive a copy of each issue in which their work appears. If a record collection is too large for publication in the Journal, I can probably help arrange for publication in book form. Bob Doerr, Editor, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

Access to Records In 1910, the State of Missouri assumed the responsibility for keeping vital records. The records were kept confidential, as was proper, at least for birth records. However, some of the records are now 90 years old; it is time to place microfilms of all the birth records, with indexes, that are older than 72 years, and all of the death and other records, into the State Archives for full public access. Efforts have been made in the legislature, but the Department of Health obfuscates. The Department proposes to place on line images of the birth records 90 years or older and death records 50 years or older. That will be fine, but it is not enough. This is to urge that, during this political season, your candidates for the legislature and state senate be queried as to their positions on the matter. Owing to the Federal regulation that census data remain closed for 72 years, that interval has become a de facto standard in the USA. A 72-year interval suffices for privacy. All that is needed is to add to Sect. 193.245 of RSMO 1994 new sub-paragraphs as follows: (4) The department shall enable the State Archives to duplicate, for public access, microfilms of the following: a) all birth records that are 72 years old or older, and indexes to such records, and b) all other vital records and indexes. (5) The department shall enable, annually, the State Archives to duplicate microfilms of the following: a) all birth records that have become 72 years old or older, and indexes to such records, and b) all other vital records and indexes. Bob Doerr Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hutson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/52.172.688.727.728.2 Message Board Post: Dorothy, I saw your message about Rouster and Mabel. I'd very much like to have a print out from the library books on this family as Gentry had a large family and without some help. I'll never get the children in order. My sister married Harvey Hutson so I know some of the younger children but not the older ones. I left and came back to Florida after Mom and Dad passed away because my children are living here. At the moment it looks like we may be hit by another storm. It doesn't seem possible that it's been three years since Irene came through here. I didn't think I'd ever get all the mess that she left cleaned up. With the help of friends I did manage to get it put back in order. The storage shed needed a new roof but it was needing replacing anyway. I had the electric lines made tighter as the wind pulled them loose and the switch on the air conditoner had to be replaced because the wind forced so much water into the electric box. But this was minor to what a lot of people had to put up with. This building i'm living in at the present is supposed to be able to sustain winds up to 120 miles per hour. As long as it doesn't take off the roof and there isn't a tidal surge . But every place has some kind of weather problems to contend with. More later. Jean

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/1115.1 Message Board Post: In the Ozark Heritage books has allot of info on your family but all I found on Jesse A. McCarter and wife, Margaret Ann, moved form the state of Tenn in the year of 1854. They settled on a 500 acre tract of land in Franklin township, Dent Co. They built their home near an old wagon road running from Gladden Post office through where Turtle Post office was later establish. ( Ozark Heritage Dent Co., Mo. 1851-1978 vol. one. p.365 Jesse also; came to Mo in 1850 and lived in Reynolds County. In 1854 , they came to Dent Co. Ozark Heritage Area Cem. McCarter Cem. McCarter, Tennessee w/o John A. 10/22/1857, Dent Co. -9/5/1931, d/o William Corttrell; sister to : John (md. Nancy Dewees, 2/20/1877, Dent Co) and Elizabeth (m. Alexander Eudy); Tennessee 2nd md. James Barker( this is strange, she is buried by the name McCarter. I just printed what the book says. The Dent Count Cem. book is full of your family. I hope this helps some. Larry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/1116.1 Message Board Post: Put your good info at www.rootsweb.com/~modent/index.htm. I think it will stay longer and be easy to find. Larry of Dent Co., Mo.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Medlock, Kiernan/Kernan, Lane, Kennon, Umfleet,Reddick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/183.602.608 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on James Medlock that married Harriet Edna Lane and had son, William Nicholas and other children. They were in Texas, Douglas, possibly Dent and Salem Counties before coming to St. Francois County, Missouri. They are my husband's ancestors that I am trying to find out about. Any Medlocks out there related?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: John S. and Cortez ENLOE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/330.346.348.2 Message Board Post: I saw your posting and I do have quite a bit of info on both of these gentleman. If interested, let me know at miles199@knology.net. Kelly Hagen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/427.468.734 Message Board Post: I am the ggg granddaughter of Jesse A and Margaret Ann McCarter. I am looking for information on both of them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/1115 Message Board Post: I am the ggg granddaughter of Jesse A. and Margaret (dunn) McCarter. They are both buried in Dent co.. Their son Rev. John and Tennessee (cottrell) are also buried in Dent Co. I have all the information down, but I do not know anything about Tennessee. I am looking for information on Jess, I do have his brother and sister names, but no parents.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/822.931.1.1 Message Board Post: Please reply to j96smith52@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Asbridge, King, Weeks, Palmer, Darty Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/822.931.1 Message Board Post: I am searching for the origin of the Asbridge surname. I've recently been told by one of the older family members that it is a form of a German surname of brothers who went to England to build bridges. Anyone have any info?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/80.155.424 Message Board Post: Hi Jimmy McGinnis, I forgot to give my e-mail address in my last message about Jesse A McCarter, Margaret Ann Dunn, and Tennessee Jane Cottrell. Thanks please JJ Ault sault@tisd.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/80.155.423 Message Board Post: Hi Jimmy McGinnis Could you please give me any information on Jesse A McCarter and Margarte Ann Dunn. Also information on their daughter-in-law, Tennessee Jane Cottrell who married John A McCarter. Meanwhile I will try to access that volume about Dent County History compiled in Salem. Thanks please, JJ Ault

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Counts, Russell, Brooks, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/711.712.716 Message Board Post: Joyce, My grandparents Pless and Edna (Russell) Counts lived in St. Louis when my dad Vearl was born. Grandpa talked several times about my great, great grandmother who was a Cherokee Indian and gave birth to twins in the cornfield, took them to the house and returned to work in the cornfield. Grandpa passed away about 8 years ago but grandma Edna (Russell) Counts is still living in Salem in the rest home. From reading your post I would say this might be the same family. My dad (Vearl) married Ava Jean Brooks and moved to Galena, MO when I was about 3 years old around 1964 he has a sister Melba Lee who still lives in Salem.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/392.552.637 Message Board Post: Lora, we are searching for a connection Native American link for our Grandmother America Nelson, whoes father came from Tennessee, Know many back at that time did not claim their Indian heritage. If there is anyone there in that area that knows Please let me know or Rick Shults at shults3@fidnet.com, thanks Ila

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzgerald, Brown, Lewis, Smith, Miller, Siddens, Bunton, Neibor, Hodges Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FKB.2ACE/1113 Message Board Post: LESLIE FITZGERALD Leslie "Pete" Fitzgerald, son of the late Arthur Fitzgerald and Pearl Brown, was born April 12, 1916, in Licking, and passed away at the Barnes Hospital in St. Louis, on Nov. 2, 1987, at the age of 71 years. He was united in marriage to Velma Virginia Lewis on Oct. 18, 1941. He was preceded in death by his parents, one son, two sisters and four brothers. He is survived by his wife, Velma Fitzgerald of the home in Salem, [Dent County]; two sons, Gary Fitzgerald and wife, Carla of St. Louis, Robert Fitzgerald and wife Bettyejane of St. Louis; two brothers, Forest Fitzgerald of Hillsboro, Forbes Fitzgerald of Salem; five sisters, Ora Smith of Salem, Doris Miller of St. Louis, Ruth Siddens of St. Louis, Nadine Bunton of St. Louis, Pauline Neibor of St. Joe, Mich.; four grandchildren, Gary Fitzgerald Jr., Anne Fitzgerald, Bobbiann Fitzgerald, and Kelly Fitzgerald. He professed a faith in Christ and was baptized at Lesterville at the Fellowship Baptist Church. He was a member of the Gladden Empire Club and was a founding member of the 4X4 Explorers Club in Creve Coeur. He was a loving husband, father, brother, grandfather and friend and will be so sadly missed by his family. Funeral services were conducted Thursday, Nov. 5, 1987, at 11 a.m. in the Spencer Chapel in Salem, with Rev. John Smith officiating. Serving as pallbearers were Terrall Siddens, Kenneth Siddens, Joe Hodges, Steve Davis, John Hodges and Willard Hodges. Special music was provided by John Casey accompanied by Catherine Wells. Interment was in the Empire Cemetery at Gladden. All arrangements were under the direction of the Spencer Funeral Home in Salem. This obituary was published in the REYNOLDS COUNTY COURIER, Ellington, Reynolds Co. MO, Thurs. Nov. 12, 1987, page 8.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HUGHES/BATY/BALEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FKB.2ACE/1112 Message Board Post: Matilda Ann Hughes was born in Dent Co., MO 10 March 1859 d. 09 Jan 1940. I am seeking her parents. She was living in Dawson twp, Phelps Co., MO Aug 1883 and had her fourth child there. She mar. Carrol "Carl" Baty b. Ore. Co., MO 22 Mar 1877 in Phleps Co. At the time of death they both were living in Hinkle, Phelps Co., MO. MO Archives gives Matilda's birth in Dent Co., MO