----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Goldberg To: Frederick W. Gregg, Jr. Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: HUGHS Rick, Could you do an 1850 census lookup on William Hughs. Am looking to see if he had a daughter named Lucinda. She was married by 1855 so looking to see if in 1850 she was with William. Brenda ======================================== Hello Brenda - 80-80 Richardson Louis 32 Oh Farmer Elizabeth 27 Oh William J. 6 Mo Margaret 1 Mo Hughs Lucinda 11 Mo Mary 6 Mo 81-81 Marsh John F. 23 Oh Farmer Alana 27 Tn Margret 6 Mo Emily 5 Mo Perry 1/12 Mo Hughs William 22 Il Farmer Thomas 16 Il There are no other HUGHS listed in the index to the 1850 census that I have. Rick Gregg

Anyone: My g-grandfather, Frederick CHATMAN, is listed in the 1870 Dallas County Missouri Federal Census. He was born in 1866. His father is listed as B. CHATMAN. His mother is Sarah. The next reference I can find to any of them after that is the marriage of Sarah CHATMAN to Richard MEEKS in 1871 in Dallas County. I know they had a son John MEEKS who would have been my g-grandfather's half brother. He was born in 1972 Dallas County. All references I found were in this 3 year period. The next record I can find of Frederick CHATMAN is his marriage to Mary MOSER, Izard County Arkansas in 1886. I am trying to find out if B. Chatman died in 1870 or 1871 or was there a divorce. Also what his name was. Any help will be appreciated. Florence Robinson Kansas City _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Sherri, here is one to add to your collection. THE GENEALOGIST'S PSALM Genealogy is my pastime, I shall not stray; It maketh me to lie down and examine half-buried tombstones. It leadeth me into still Court Houses, It restoreth my ancestral knowledge. It leadeth me in paths of census records and ships' passengers list for my surname's sake. Yea, though I walk through the shadows of research libraries and microfilm readers, I shall fear no discouragement; For a strong urge is within me; The curiosity and motivation They comforteth me. It demandeth preparation of storage space for the acquisition of countless documents; It anointest my head with burning midnight oil, My family group sheets runneth over. Surely birth, marriage, and death dates shall follow me all the day of my life; And I shall dwell in the house of a family-history seeker for ever. By Wildamae Brestal Colleen Oliver Researching: Chapman, Cheek, Stafford, Wingo and others.

The list has been fairly quiet lately, maybe you will enjoy a few little chuckles Blessings Sherry Carroll Qualls Dallas Co Surnames: Carroll, Cheek, Chapman, Rice/Rice, Edington, Pierce My family coat of arms ties at the back....is that normal? My family tree is a few branches short! All help appreciated My ancestors must be in a witness protection program! Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies as pets. How can one ancestor cause so much TROUBLE?? I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap.. I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged I'm searching for myself; Have you seen me ? If only people came with pull-down menus and on-line help... Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem, leads to two more! It's 1998... Do you know where your-Great-G. Grandparents are? A family reunion is an effective form of birth control A family tree can wither if nobody tends it's roots A new cousin a day keeps the boredom away After 30 days, unclaimed ancestors will be adopted Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples Ever find an ancestor HANGING from the family tree? FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. Gene-Allergy: It's a contagious disease, but I love it Genealogists are time unravelers Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: They hide... I seek! Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people "Crazy" is a relative term in my family A pack rat is hard to live with, but makes a fine ancestor I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand I Should have asked them BEFORE they died! I think my ancestors had several "Bad heir" days I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNEflower Only a Genealogist regards a step backwards, as progress Share your knowledge, it is a way to achieve immortality Heredity: Everyone believes in it until their children act like fools! It's an unusual family that hath neither a lady of the evening or a thief. Many a family tree needs pruning Shh! Be very, very quiet.... I'm hunting forebears. Snobs talk as if they had begotten their own ancestors! That's strange: half my ancestors are WOMEN! I'm not sick, I've just got fading genes Genealogists live in the past lane Cousins marrying cousins: Very tangled roots! Cousins marrying cousins: A non-branching family tree Alright! Everybody out of the gene pool! Always willing to share my ignorance.... Documentation...The hardest part of genealogy Genealogy: Chasing your own tale! Genealogy...will I ever find time to mow the lawn again? That's the problem with the gene pool: NO Lifeguards I researched my family tree... and apparently I don't exist! SO MANY ANCESTORS...........................SO LITTLE TIME! Genealogy Epitaph Collection   Lester Moore was a Wells Fargo Co. station agent, and is buried at Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona: Here lies Lester Moore Four slugs from a .44 No Les No More. In memory of Lettuce Manning: Oh cruel death To satisfy the palate, Cut down our Lettuce To make a salad. Self Wriiten Epitaph When people's ills, they come to I I physics, bleeds, and sweats 'em; Sometimes they live, sometimes they die; What's that to I? --I. Letsome Epitaph for a Dentist Stranger!  Approach this spot with gravity. John Brown is filling his last cavity. A marker in Enosburg Falls, Vermont Here lies the body of our dead Anna gone to death by a banana It wasn't the fruit that dealt the blow But the skin of the thing that laid her low!   Genealogy Epitaph Collection   Lester Moore was a Wells Fargo Co. station agent, and is buried at Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone, Arizona: Here lies Lester Moore Four slugs from a .44 No Les No More. In memory of Lettuce Manning: Oh cruel death To satisfy the palate, Cut down our Lettuce To make a salad. Self Wriiten Epitaph When people's ills, they come to I I physics, bleeds, and sweats 'em; Sometimes they live, sometimes they die; What's that to I? --I. Letsome Epitaph for a Dentist Stranger!  Approach this spot with gravity. John Brown is filling his last cavity. A marker in Enosburg Falls, Vermont Here lies the body of our dead Anna gone to death by a banana It wasn't the fruit that dealt the blow But the skin of the thing that laid her low!  

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry & Donna Bond" <tbond@cland.net> To: <Rick-Gregg@hawaii.rr.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: 1880 Dallas Co MO Look-up > Rick, > > I am trying to find the parents and siblings of William Haines CARTER, b > 28 Dec. 1873, Charity, Dallas Co MO. > > Could you do a look-up for William as a child in the 1880 Dallas Co MO > Census? > > Thank you for your time. > Donna Bond > ======================================== Hello Donna - Jackson Township 188-194 CARTER, Wm. H. 37 m Farmer Tn Ky Tn Catherine 36 m wife Tn Tn Tn Mary J. 13 dau Mo Tn Tn A. G. 11 son Mo Tn Tn John R. 10 son Mo Tn Tn Martha P. 8 dau Mo Tn Tn Wm. H. 6 son Mo Tn Tn Edward F. 4 son Mo Tn Tn Adelva L. 1 son Mo Tn Tn WINGO, John 21 s nephew Mo Tn Tn Rick Gregg

Would the person who is doing the above lookup please see if there is anything in the paper/bk. for the name CALLISON. My 3rd. gr. grandfather, Moses Callison, was living there from around 1840 until his death in 1866. Thanks you so much, Dottie in So. Calif.

----- Original Message ----- From: Carver To: Rick-Gregg@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: DALLAS CTY LOOKUP -- The Dallas Cty MO Story 1841-1971 Please check the following: FLANAGAN pg 362 FLANAGIN pg 4 FLANAGIN, Mary pg 330 Thanks so much for your help. Carver ======================================== Hello Carver - page 4 - contains a list of surnames of families listed in the 1850 census; includes: FLANAGIN. page 330 - lists brief family histories of families who had been in Dallas Co. for six generations; under the name EDMISSON lists a George Washington HILL (1845-1918) whose second wife was Nancy Ellen BRESHEARS (1850-1908) dau. Jesse & Mary (FLANAGIN) BRESHEARS. page 362 - entitled "Pioneer Families" is a list of names from the 1850 census whose descendants still reside in Dallas Co.; includes the name: FLANAGAN. Rick Gregg

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Landauer" <plants@srv.net> To: <Rick-Gregg@hawaii.rr.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Dallas Co. Lookup > Hello, Rick! > > Thank you for your willingness to lookup things for folks! Could you > see if there is a listing in the Dallas Co., Marriages for an Abraham > Lincoln (Link) Ragsdale and an Agnes Peters around 1900? Thank you > again. > > Judy Landauer > -- > > Hello Judy - Book 6, page 66: 10 Feb 1895 A L Ragsdale (Halfway) Agnes Peters (at Sam'l Peters res) James A Mathis MG Rick Gregg

This is interesting site involving the Frisco RR. St Louis San Francisco Railroad never made it to California, its many employees affectionatly called it THE FRISCO. Even the president of the railroad went along and the FRISCO name stuck. This site emphasizes the workers, not the machines and their history It's hard to check early railroad history, if you're more interested in the workers, rather than the lines,tracks. schedules. or make of engine. I'm tracking down the history of one ancestor who worked on the Illinois Central in 1870s and 1880s. The official pension site most people send is worthless, unless your ancestor worked in the 1930s. The 19th century story is scattered or lost and is not covered by the official pension site. My g-grandfather Z. L. Slavens was involved in the 70 yrs RR "Nightmare" that Dallas Co. had to endure. My other g-grandfather worked as a conductor on the ICRR in Iowa. Here's the site on the Frisco RR or ST Louis San Francisco RR http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~veregge/index.html

Hello List - For those of you researching the Dallas County Railroad Bonds fiasco, or just interested in reading about what happened, there is an article in the July 1967 edition of the Missouri Historical Review. See pages 444-462 for the article. Author is Virginia Rust Frazer. Rick Gregg

Gary, I received you loud and clear here in Wichita, Kansas! Lanita

Thanks for all the confirmations; no need to send more. I was trying to track down why one member's message didn't get posted. --gary

This is just a test to see if MODALLAS-L is working. -- Gary Swift list owner

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Swift" <gswift@netcom.com> To: <MODALLAS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: test > This is just a test to see if MODALLAS-L is working. > -- Gary Swift > list owner > =================================== Thanks for checking Gary. It has been very quiet. I guess everyone is looking "forebears"? Rick

I realize you wrote to Rick, but I have a book "a Reading of Dallas Co Mo. Cemeteries 1834-1996 Vol I" which contains the New Hope Cemetery information you are looking. This is all McCall, Hogg that were listed. McCall, John A. 24 Jul 1893 - 17 Jan 1944 McCall, Andrew J. 9 May 1891 - 31 May 1926 McCall, Joseph G. 6 Feb 1907 - 22 May 1924 McCall, James I. 3 Jan 1896 - 13 Oct 1918; Cpl Co A McCall, Thomas B. 3 Jan 1889 - 5 Oct 1890 McCall, Ervin Raymond 13 Mar 1901 - 5 Sep 1972 Hogg, Tennie 4 May 1849 - 1 Jul 1907;wife/JW Hogg, Joseph W 21 Sep 1842 - 22 Feb 1919 Carmen -----Original Message----- From: Frederick W. Gregg, Jr. [mailto:Rick-Gregg@hawaii.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:14 PM To: MODALLAS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: MCCALL - HOGG ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Goldberg To: Frederick W. Gregg, Jr. Cc: Margaret A. Maulin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: MCCALL - HOGG Dear Rick, I've made some progress. I got John McCall's obituary and found that he is buried at New Hope Cemetery. The obituary says he had 12 children but I only have 11 in my records. In speaking with my mother tonight she said there was another daughter and she thought her name was Tinny or Timmie or something that starts with a T. She was married to a gentleman whose last name was HOGG and mom said they are buried at New Hope and she believes they have headstones. Would you look them up in your cemetery books please? Thank you, Brenda Hello Brenda - Very happy to hear about your progress. New Hope Cemetery HOGG Tennie 4 May 1849 - 1 Jul 1907; wife of JW Joseph W 21 Sep 1842 - 22 Feb 1919 Rick Gregg

As you know, I've been busy looking up soldiers names and units in the Confederate Roster book series, "ROSTERS OF THE CONFEDERATE ARMY 1861-1865". Since I have offered this to DADE, DALLAS, and POLK Counties, there seems to be one or two units, that keep jumping out at me over and over for lookups from people on these counties' mailing lists... So, if you have alot of units listed for the same name, you might want to check out these first, just in case: MO 1st NE Cav. (possible Companies "I", "K", or Co. "C") MO 3rd Inf. Co. F, G, or H MO 3rd Cav. Co. A MO Cav. Fristoe's Regt. Co. C or F Hope this helps! Lanita

----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Goldberg To: Frederick W. Gregg, Jr. Cc: Margaret A. Maulin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: MCCALL - HOGG Dear Rick, I've made some progress. I got John McCall's obituary and found that he is buried at New Hope Cemetery. The obituary says he had 12 children but I only have 11 in my records. In speaking with my mother tonight she said there was another daughter and she thought her name was Tinny or Timmie or something that starts with a T. She was married to a gentleman whose last name was HOGG and mom said they are buried at New Hope and she believes they have headstones. Would you look them up in your cemetery books please? Thank you, Brenda Hello Brenda - Very happy to hear about your progress. New Hope Cemetery HOGG Tennie 4 May 1849 - 1 Jul 1907; wife of JW Joseph W 21 Sep 1842 - 22 Feb 1919 Rick Gregg

Saw Carver's query to Rick Gregg re Henry Haney's will. The following Haney probate files are listed in the Probate Index: B.A.; Cordelia Catherine dec'd; James V.; Jonathan (insane); Lucinda; Milly, P.A.; Patrick; Tabitha; Thomas If you want to know what is in any of the files, write Mrs. Leni Howe c/o Dallas County Historical Society. She can tell you want is in a file and how much copies will cost. If you are trying to determine if one of these people is a specific ancestor, give her information re dates of birth/death/spouses/children etc. so she can look at the file and see if it is the person of interest. In the 1880 census, Dallas County, MO: Jasper Township Dwelling 278, Family 279 Haney, John age 70 married Farmer, has Palsey b. SC, Father b. VA, mother b. SC Elizabeth 43 wife married Keepinghouse b. NC, father b. NC, mother b. NC William 21 son single Farmer b. TN, father b. SC, mother b. NC Lee 15 son Farming b. TN, father b. SC, mother b. NC James 13 son Farming b. TN, father b. SC, mother b. NC Elizabeth 10 dau b. TN, father b. SC, mother b. NC John 7 son b. MO, father b. SC, mother b. NC Henry 3 son b. MO, father b. SC, mother b. NC Dwelling 280, Family 281 Haney, James 64 married Farmer, has cancer b. SC, Father b. VA, mother b. VA Sarah 53 wife married Keeping house b. NC, father b. NC, mother b. NC Mary 18 dau single b. MO, father b. SC, mother b. NC Benton Branch Cemetery Informational Directory 1885 - 1991 compiled by Karen Sweaney Haney, Dollie Varden, daughter of George E. Haney and Iva Ellen (Mann) Haney Miller Haney, Fannie (Junkins), wife of ? Haney, George Emanuel, son of James Thomas Haney and Rachel Lavina Elizabeth (Phillips) Howard Haney; husband of Iva Ellan (Mann), father of Wilburn Ray, Orval Wesley, Bertha Celena (Haney) Copeland and Dollie Varden Haney Haney, Henry Fitch 25 Oct 1877 - 13 Nov 1918 son of John Henry (1810-1884) and Tabitha Elizabeth (Felliare) Haney (1836-1913); no marriage information given Haney, Infant, child of Fannie (Junkins) Haney, no dates given Haney, J. F., 1885-1887, no parents listed Haney, John 1810-1884, husband of Tabitha Elizabeth (Felliare) Haney, father of Henry Fitch Haney, S. Ellen Haney Lynch and Katherine Haney Swigert (Native Stone) Haney, Orval Wesley 24 april 1921 - 27 Sep 1923 Haney, Tabitha Elizabeth (Felliare) 1836-1913 (no marker) Haney, Wilburn Ray 26 Nov 1918 - 6 aug 1923 Lynch, S. Ellen (Haney) wife of Andy Lynch, mother of George Lynch 1889-1968 (Metal Marker) Swigert, Katherine "Katie" 1881 - 17 April 1926, wife of Henry "H.E." Swigert (family records list death as 17 April 1925), mother of 12 children

----- Original Message ----- From: Carver To: Rick-Gregg@hawaii.rr.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: DALLAS CTY LOOKUP -- PROBATE INDEX Does the probate file index show FRANKLIN, John died 1862 in Dallas Cty? Thanks. Carver Hello Carver - The Probate Index contains the following FRANKLINs: Adaline dec'd Ben dec'd (2) C M dec'd Elizabeth George Ralph (minor heir) Harley & Alma (minor heirs) James G dec'd (2) James, Edith may, Linn Monroe, Iniz Elizabeth &Charles Ansell (minor heirs) John E & Charles M (minor heirs) John W (incompetent) Margaret dec'd (2) Mary J dec'd Thomas Franklin heirs Remeber, this is an index and therefore contains ONLY names. Please contact the Dallas County Historical Society to determine what is in the files. Rick Gregg

received this on another list and thought it sounded more true than not. -- happy spring Betty McBee Ode To A Census Taker Written by Sylvia Stevens March 2001 Some Census feller came today It makes a body scoff T'see how gullible he was 'Fore Lukey runned him off! He wuz askin' 'bout the Williamses Who live in Turkey Holler So Pap got out the moonshine jug And we all had a swaller. Now, don't ask where that likker's from Cause we'd never tell it ture! That Census is from the government. That Internal Revenoo! So Pap set down and spun a yarn Pretty as you please All about them Williamses With younguns thick as fleas! There's Nathaniel Moses Williams Or mebbe Mose Nathaniel It don't matter none to us, We always call him Cal. We didn't tell about the still That Cal keeps in the sticks And we just snickered to ourselves To beat those Census tricks! Ole Missus Williams follers next I think her name was Nancy But Pap just called her Emmaline Cause he thought it sounded fancy. He shaved ten years off'n her age (She's older'n Cal by three) And didn't name her firstborned son Cause he died in Tennessee. Well that Census feller kep askin' stuff. Pap kep thet jug a tippin' The kinfolks grinnin' like raccoons Thet Census guy kep sippin! Well, Jimmy, Joe and Johnnie Got mixed around a mite. But they're from Cal's first family And his first wife, Sairy White. Ole Missus had two daughters By Caleb Mackelroy Which Pa misspelled Markley And I think there was a boy. Mollie Ann and Sukey Got named as Cal's own kin But they's cousins from Ohio Ole Missus took 'em in. Well, time thet jug was emptied That Census man was skunked. We left him in the wheelbar'l Likkered up and drunk! Just for jakes we filled his list With all of our own kin But swapped 'em all around the place It'd make a possum grin! We listed Grandpap as our son Brother Seth and me as married And won't young Lukey have a laugh When we tell him he's dead and buried! Cousin Sam's is my firstborned gal And Mary's now a feller! We made up several younguns more, All livin' in the cellar. When he come to, that pore old guy Just staggered off fer town His head all full of nonsense An' him near fallin down! Nobody reads them Census things It's hogwash, simplepure! But us hillfolk's laughin' fit to bust- We done FOXED that Revenooer!