This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CKB.2ACE/1781.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Della, I have that Ida was born in 1872.. also I believe that her Maternal Grandmother's maiden name was spelled Carman. Would you send me a copy of that picture? (Fred and Ida). I only have back to her Grandfather Allen and Lucinda Carman/Medlin. You probally already know that Fred was married three times. Cousin, Mark