The list of holding in the Misssouri State Archives for Dade County runs 13 pages. In addition, they have transcribed some early births and deaths. All this is downloadable. Use your favorite search engine, type in "Missouri State Archives". You can order records by e-mail or snail mail. It's slow, it's one at a time, but the price is right and the service is great! Nancy Pf --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup

There is an Elijah McKinley Cantrell (2/7/1854 - 12/28/1925), son of Hiram & Cynthia (Ruckman) Cantrell buried at Hampton Cemetery along with a bunch of other Cantrells. I am related to the Cantrells. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [MODADE] Researcher -- I've found one > In the mean time, > Is there anyone doing research on the Cantrell family??? Looking for the > grave of Elijah Cantrell........... > > > ==== MODADE Mailing List ==== > This list is made available courtesy of Rootsweb.com > To unsubscribe send a msg. to > MODADE-L(or -D)[email protected] > unsubscribe in the msg. area, turn off your signature, > if possible. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In the mean time, Is there anyone doing research on the Cantrell family??? Looking for the grave of Elijah Cantrell...........

Let's move on to a different discussion. I think that we have all said our two cents worth on this, and it looks like we are getting a little personal in some of our comments. Future comments of a personal nature directed at another list member will result in the removal from this list. We are here to support each other as we research TOGETHER. Remember, we all started into this hobby because it is FUN!!! Please, no more lookup comments. Thanks, John Little Coordinator

Dear Hunter, I would hope after your rudeness that noone would want to do research for you in Dade County. Yes, unfortuantely there is one McDonalds in Greenfield. Trash shows up everywhere. It's good that you have moved on and there is less in Greenfield now. Good riddens to bad rubish.

Hi, In a recent book I wrote about families in Tenn that migrated to Southwest Missouri during the 1850s...........I researched this exact thing.........(during this time period. The railroad line stopped in Rolla Missouri When the civil war broke out supplies had to be shipped by wagon to Springfield..........if they had traveled by train, they would only gotten as far as Rolla and then would have traveled by wagon...............My belief is that they came through St. Louis and crossed on the ferry and followed the Old Rolla Road to Springfield, Dade And Lawrence

Hello Everyone, On the Greene Co Tennessee list, there was just a question regarding information on wagon trains to Missouri in the 1870s. I posted the email below, which speaks for itself and am curious about any of your thoughts on whether in 1883 travel from East Tennessee to SW Missouri would have been by wagon train or railroad (if affordable). Since there are many Greene Co TN, and others from that corner of Tennessee, who ended up in SW Missouri, I am also interested if any of you have any firm information (like a teenage girl who wrote a diary, etc.) on the trip west, and the route in particular. A separate thought (Ross listen up) would be whether or not travel from Amelia Co VA (near Richmond) to Lawrence/Barry Co in 1837/8 would/might have gone through Giles County TN, which is on the southern border, near Lincoln Co, where Jack's McGehees were, as well as probably my Birds (Lawrence Co TN), before migration to Missouri. I ask this because I've come into contact with a Baugh cousin, descendant of our Archibald Bolling Baugh's first cousin, once removed, Thomas Martin Baugh, who (not only named a son Archibald Bolling Baugh), but also nad a daughter Rebecca who married a Dempsey WILLIAMSON. Then one of our Lawrence Co "Boland Baw's" daughters Sarah marries a Leonard Williamson, who after her death marries Sarah's brother, Andrew Jackson Baugh's widow. (Hope I got that right). FYI, Ross, she's sending me her Dempsey Williamson ancestry. I guess I'm wondering if our AB Baugh stopped in to see cousins and picked up some Williamsons along the way. Well, this is too many questions as always , Sorry....Here is my post. My best, Janet (Baugh) Hunter Subj: Re: [TNGREENE] 1870/80s Wagon Train or Railroad?? Date: 5/29/2002 2:11:57 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Hello Everyone, This question interests me as well. I have several collateral lines that travelled from Greene Co to the Missouri Ozarks from 1850s to 1880s.... In 1883, my great great grandmother Elizabeth Fortner Marshall (wife of Thomas Marshall, s/o Abram & Martha Doan Marshill) took the Sexton, Jones, DeFord and Marshall families of her three daughters and one son and joined three of her Fortner brothers, Cotter in-laws and a gang of other TN Greene Countians, in Lawrence County Missouri area. My mother believes that they probably took a train a good part of the way, perhaps all the way to Springfield Missouri. I am curious about any of your thoughts on whether she is accurate. When would travel by railroad have become a real option from Greene County to points west? Thanks in advance. Janet Hunter

Hello Everyone, I have found a researcher in Springfield (Greene Co) who does research in Dade (and Lawrence) counties. She is respected, and I've known her for several years. She has published a book using courthouse records, etc. Because I'm not sure of the technicalities of putting her name on here, if you are interested, contact me privately. Regarding Dade County itself -- it doesn't surprise me at all that we are having trouble finding a researcher, though we might want to contact the local high school and see if there is an eager student who might want some extra change. It doesn't really take much skill to do an initial document search at the Courthouse. You ask for the probate record, etc. then make copies. Use the microfilm deed index and get copies. Have you all been there? The population is under 8,000. There are several small, small towns (Greenfield included), that would be a blip on the radar screen if there were an interstate going through, which there is not. I doubt there is more than the one McDonald's in Greenfield. It is absolutely beautiful. I found an online picture using googles images search of Missouri (and one of boarded up street in Greenfield) that reminded me exactly of it...on a couple of bikers website. Take a look at them here -- (3) is the countryside one, which I have on my revolving pictures for my screensaver: http://www.biketrip2001.com/Photos/Missouri/missouri_photos.htm Tammy Fischer has pictures of Greenfield and Dade at her website also (though there's alot of popups there): http://dadecountymissouri.20m.com/ Good Luck Everyone, Janet Hunter

John: Good for you for making that decision. The researchers change constantly anyway. Several publications (and on the internet) publish names of people that would be happy to do research. I have never had a problem finding anyone. Even in our own neighborhoods we can find people that are researching our areas of interest...which makes life easier! Thank you. Barb By. (Grisham, Thompson, Clasby, Thurman, Bell, Compton, etc.)

I thought I would add my 2 cents on this topic. I do volunteer lookups for Eastland County, Texas, no charge, from the material I have here at home. Periodically, I have to go to the courthouse on business. When I go, I take some of the queries I have received and take a few extra minutes to look them up. If I find something, I make copies or note how the inquirer can make a specific request. I feel like in a small way I am repaying all those people who have done lookups for me and in the process learn some interesting history of the county. And I have made some wonderful cyberspace friends. Sylvia King, Cisco, Eastland County, Texas [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [MODADE] Lookups > Hi List, > > But the fact still remains that there are sources there in Dade County that we > cannot get at appropriately and timely without outside help. The staff of > volunteers that you spoke of will not do look-ups at the courthouse. SO, if there > are researchers on this list who lives in the Dade County area that would be > willing to do some looking for some of us that can't readily get there and will do > it at a nominal fee or for the cost of copies, etc., then they could respond > privatley to the inquirer. You can't expect someone to make copies and mail them to > you for free. Even the library will not do that. But untill they get a staff of > volunteers to do courthouse look-ups, we have to have another outlet. > > I have read on this list that if someone is a member of the society the courthouse > would not charge a look-up fee. If the library keeps your membership a matter of > record, then the courthouse and the library COULD work cooperatively to allow a > library volunteer to fulfill a courthouse look-up received via email or smail at > the library for that requester, otherwise, the library could charge the courthouse > fee also. > > The more cooperative Dade County is with researchers the more cooperative > researchers will be with them, in addition to the fact that many out of town > researchers might find that they are so please and thankful for the efforts that > have been made for them that they might add a few extra hours to their visit and > document something that the library or the MODADE site does not have and donate it > to them. There is a photo page there, but not very many photos. I have always felt > that many photos of Greenfield and the area from the past and now could be placed > there. The site could also use a map that indicates where towns, cemeteries, > schoold, etc., are now, or were. Researchers are always asking for directions prior > to their visit. A map that shows what homesteads are now under the lake might be > useful. There are a number of things that researchers could give back if > cooperation exists. > > Bev Clark > > >

Hi List, But the fact still remains that there are sources there in Dade County that we cannot get at appropriately and timely without outside help. The staff of volunteers that you spoke of will not do look-ups at the courthouse. SO, if there are researchers on this list who lives in the Dade County area that would be willing to do some looking for some of us that can't readily get there and will do it at a nominal fee or for the cost of copies, etc., then they could respond privatley to the inquirer. You can't expect someone to make copies and mail them to you for free. Even the library will not do that. But untill they get a staff of volunteers to do courthouse look-ups, we have to have another outlet. I have read on this list that if someone is a member of the society the courthouse would not charge a look-up fee. If the library keeps your membership a matter of record, then the courthouse and the library COULD work cooperatively to allow a library volunteer to fulfill a courthouse look-up received via email or smail at the library for that requester, otherwise, the library could charge the courthouse fee also. The more cooperative Dade County is with researchers the more cooperative researchers will be with them, in addition to the fact that many out of town researchers might find that they are so please and thankful for the efforts that have been made for them that they might add a few extra hours to their visit and document something that the library or the MODADE site does not have and donate it to them. There is a photo page there, but not very many photos. I have always felt that many photos of Greenfield and the area from the past and now could be placed there. The site could also use a map that indicates where towns, cemeteries, schoold, etc., are now, or were. Researchers are always asking for directions prior to their visit. A map that shows what homesteads are now under the lake might be useful. There are a number of things that researchers could give back if cooperation exists. Bev Clark [email protected] wrote: > Hi list, > > I just thought I would let you know that the decision was made by most of us > that are county coordinators not to publish list of those that charge a fee for > their research. Rootsweb is intended for non-profit use by those that > subscribe. > > I am sure that there are those in the Dade County area that would be glad to > look up things from time to time, and I know it is frustrating to not be able > to find them at times. I do know that there is a staff of volunteers that work > in the Dade County library in the Genealogy room on a daily basis looking up > information for people, cutting information out of newspapers, etc. They are a > very dedicated group of individuals. > > Thanks to all of you for being a part of this list and happy hunting for your > roots! > > John Little > Dade County Coordinator > > ==== MODADE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send a msg. to > MODADE-L(or -D)[email protected] > unsubscribe in the msg. area, turn off your signature, > if possible. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi list, I just thought I would let you know that the decision was made by most of us that are county coordinators not to publish list of those that charge a fee for their research. Rootsweb is intended for non-profit use by those that subscribe. I am sure that there are those in the Dade County area that would be glad to look up things from time to time, and I know it is frustrating to not be able to find them at times. I do know that there is a staff of volunteers that work in the Dade County library in the Genealogy room on a daily basis looking up information for people, cutting information out of newspapers, etc. They are a very dedicated group of individuals. Thanks to all of you for being a part of this list and happy hunting for your roots! John Little Dade County Coordinator

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CKB.2ACE/967.1 Message Board Post: I have a Wm Ballinger son of Eastman Ballinger b. 27 Sept 1885 Kirksville Adair Co Missouri d 25 Dec 1957...There are William Ballinger's fr around Palmyra. wm Thomas son of Wm and Mary Ballinger d 1889 buried at Emerson Mo. Father Wm burried their also....

You might like to try a query in my Ozark's Genealogy on-line column in the News-Leader: http://www.springfieldnews-leader.com/genealogy/index.html Thanks. Gloria Bogart Carter, Genealogist, 733 South Farm Road 89, Springfield, MO 65802, [email protected] 417-869-7060; My BOOK LIST available by e-mail; My Ozarks Genealogy Query Column appears each Sunday on line http://www.springfieldnews-leader.com/genealogy/index.html ; Visit Wright Co MO web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~mowright/wright.htm On Mon, 27 May 2002 14:26:00 EDT [email protected] writes: > Just to throw my two cents into this debate. > > My family came from Dade County. I live in California and the > chances of my > ever getting to go to Greenfield and do research in person is > between slim > and none. It's just not going to happen. > > > > Right now my research is at a stand still because I can't get to the > > information I need. So if anyone on this list knows of a researcher > in the > area, please speak up. There are more than a few of us who could > use his or > her services. > > Jaime Voss >

Hi all, This is in response to those who would like to see a 'list of professionals' who are willing to do research. Although I fully understand the frustration of those of us who are not able to research on site in Dade County [believe me, I am in the same boat, as I live in southern California], I can definitely understand the reason for not posting a 'list' of those willing to do research for a charge. As strange or even ridiculous as it may seem, this is a form of 'advertising', because such a listing would be for the purpose of 'selling' ones' services. Every list, to which I subscribe, does not allow for any messages that request a fee for services [or a product], which leads me to believe that it might possibly be one of the conditions of maintaining a list. I have been on the board of a genealogical society for the past 6 1/2 years, and president for the past 2 years. Our society has always maintained a policy of no advertisements, because there is no way to guarantee the services and/or products of anyone or any business. Once you start publishing lists or offering advertising in publications, there is no way to be selective as to who can or cannot be on the list, or who can or cannot advertise. You have to open it up for all. This can really open up a can of worms. It is my understanding that the National Genealogical Society (NGS) has, or had, a list, which is composed of individuals who have credentials. I don't know if the Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) ever maintained such a list. Both of these are national 'umbrella' organizations to which most U.S. societies have memberships. The Family History Library use to maintain a list of accredited researchers, but it is my understanding that they no longer keep one, and they apparently no longer have their own accreditation program. Although, a couple of local societies, with which I am a member, have a research group of volunteers, who look up information, in both cases, it is only from indexed sources, and only from sources which are located in the facility, where they are located. For this service, both societies charges a fee. Because it is an offering of the societies, they will stand behind their own research. I certainly cannot speak for all societies, but many societies, such as these, do the same. I'm certain that they will also agree, that it is extremely difficult to please everyone. When it comes to individuals who research for a fee, please understand that many societies take exactly the same stand. They cannot or will not endorse anyone. No matter how many satisified people there are, there will always be one, or possibly a few, individuals who will not be, and they can cause lots of headaches and ill will. Even with caveats, which many people fail to read, or claim that they never saw, there will be individuals who feel that societies or list-owners who produce such 'lists' are endorsing the services of these people. No list-owner, or society can guarantee the services of these individuals. If you really think about it, each one of us probably has a difference of opinion of what exactly is a 'professional genealogist'. It this someone who is accredited and has the initials following their name, or is this someone who has researched for 20, 30 or 40 years, but is not accredited? Is it someone who has researched for only a few years, but is equally qualified? This is really a 'buyers' beware' situation. The Dade County Genealogical Society, as with most societies, publishes a quarterly journal or newsletter. Most societies allow members to post queries for free, and non-members for a small fee. As a possible solution for this is problem, it would certainly be worth posting a query in the society quarterly, or on a website for that particular county. That way, researchers can contact you, and you can decide who might be the most qualified to handle your particular research problem. Also, you might want to check for copies of the "Genealogical Helper", published by Everton Publishing Co., in Utah. I believe that it is still published 6 times a year. Each issue is filled with 'paid' advertisements by individuals who are willing to do research for a fee, and those people who are seeking answers to their research problems. Once a year, I believe it is in a spring or summer issue, there is a listing of people willing to do research. There are also other magazines such as "Family Chronicle", in which societies, businesses or individuals advertise a research service for a fee. Before you hire someone to research in the county courthouse where your ancestor lived, you might find out if there is a Family History Center in your area, or near by. Many, many land, civil court, probate, and vital records and their indexes have been microfilmed by the LDS Church. They can be ordered on temporary or indifinite loan, to your local Family History Center for a relatively small charge, far less than what it would cost to hire a researcher. Unfortunately, not all areas have a FHC. You can check the Family History Library website at: http://www.familysearch.org for a center nearest you and for the Family History Library Catalog. Keep in mind that the individual county is not the only possible source for information about your family. The state archives and libraries have lots of untapped resources, especially the manuscript files. Each state library should have a list of all of the newspapers that are on microform, microfiche or microfilm, for every county. Most of these can be ordered through inter-library loan, through your public (regional) library. Also remember, if you want someone to research in the MO State Archives and Library, you certainly do not want to hire a researcher in Dade County, as you will be paying for traveling time and expense. Please remember to ask no more than one question per request. Be concise, but be specific. Please do not expect a researcher or research team to look up everything on your family. They just won't do it. Also, indicate which sources you have already checked. You certainly do not want to pay for someone to check & photocopy a source which you already have. Although I cannot guarantee that the success will be the same for everyone, I, personally, have had really great success in my own research, for very little money, by posting queries in society quarterlies, on county websites, and hiring a couple of people through the "Genealogical Helper". I have hired people to obtain information on tax records, photograph headstones, obtain obituaries, and probate records. And, I have had lots of help and have received a lot of information from individuals on 'lists', such as this. I hope that I have been of some help. Happy researching, Sharon Ford Van Nuys, CA In response to message from Bev Clark... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Clark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [MODADE] Researcher Needed > Hi List, > > I am writing today in regards to the post listed below. I do not understand the > reasoning behind not wanting to list Professional Reseachers from Dade County to > aide out of town researchers in Dade County.

Hi Jamie, I live in Florida but go home to Dade county every year and go to several of the cemetaries. If you e-mail me maybe I could get you some photos of your family. My family came from Dade and Larwence Co. I go to the court house and the library also. I belong to the society too. I will be going in Oct again to see my family still there. Who is your family? I agree with you about bring far away. Some of my family is from Calif. So if I can help you let me know. Brenda Humphrey

Hi everyone, I guess I am one that started this dialogue on Pro. Researchers. I really do wish we had a list of them if they existed. But I do have to take up for the Dade County Genealogical Society. They have treated me really wonderful, and have answered every query I have ever sent in to them. I may not be pleased with every answer I receive, but the fault is probably mine as I am sure my querys sometimes were not short, concise and simple. Ms Audrey Brown & Ms. Nelson, have both gone beyond what my requests were and given me infomation on my ancestors slaves that are in their records, some whose families still live in the area today. I had not even thought about those records. Court record which we all need are another thing. The Society has two Will Books but the associated Letters/ Executor and Administrators documents associated with probate are not included in those books. That is where my needs lie, hence a need for a professional researcher. With all the commentary we have had on this subject I would think a Pro would do quite well with just the people on our list. Nancy

Just to throw my two cents into this debate. My family came from Dade County. I live in California and the chances of my ever getting to go to Greenfield and do research in person is between slim and none. It's just not going to happen. Every bit of information I have found on my family has come from a cousin who lives in the area, or I paid for it. I have spent more than I want to add up on books, census CD's and any source I could run across to dig out information on my family. Some of the money was well spent, such as Dorothy York's books, and a few of the books I got from the genealogy society. Some of it was a shot in the dark that missed. I have stacks of books that contain no information on my family. I spent this money because I had no other option. There is so little information online about Dade County. And requests to the Genealogy Society have gone unanswered. I have not received an answer to one research query I have sent them. I know they are a small group of volunteers, so I am not upset about this. It is just a comment on my personal experience. I am at the point where I have exhausted the resources I can find on my own from California. I would be overjoyed to find someone who could do research for me onsite in Greenfield. Pictures of my ancestors graves, copies of records from the court house; I would pay willingly to get these. If there are no professional researchers in the area, fine, say so. The statement that they do not need to be listed on the web site because we have the Genealogy Society is just not true. Especially for those of us who will never make it to Dade County in our life time. Right now my research is at a stand still because I can't get to the information I need. So if anyone on this list knows of a researcher in the area, please speak up. There are more than a few of us who could use his or her services. Jaime Voss

To the person that e-mailed me looking for a William Cantrell I did find this information while looking through Dade Co. Missouri Families CANTRELL, WILLIAM - b. 27 Oct 1813, N.C., d. 6 Jul 1868, g. Greenfield Cem., m. Margaret Ann Long. OC: David 1844 Mo., William C. 1851 Mo., George 1853 Mo., Josiah 1857 Mo. 1860 C. CANTRELL, WILLIAM ELONZO (LON) - b. 6 Jan 1869, Dade Co., d. 22 Jun 1900, Co., s/o James Tompkin Cantrell and Mary Ellen York, in. 29 Mar 1894, El Paso Co., Co., Frances Elziabeth Simpson. CANTRELL, WILLIAM SANDERS - b. 12 Jan 1851 , Dade Co., s/o Jeptha Cantrell and Nancy Elizabeth Wheeler, in. I Jan 1891, Laura B. Terrell. Don Leetch .

I have no idea where he is buried. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MODADE] Re: Bloomfield Logan > Was Bloomfield Logan buried in Dade or Lawrence County? > > > ==== MODADE Mailing List ==== > Please no virus reports, no chain letters, no advertising! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >