I didn't know if anyone knew of these records available, so I thought I would point them out. There are many old church records and other stuff. http://web.umr.edu/~whmcinfo/counties/craw/ -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand

Here is a good site to see Census and county formation maps for Missouri Counties http://www.segenealogy.com/missouri/mo_maps.htm Hope they can help someone, floridamom

The marriage for St. Francois Volume 2 is now migrated into the searchable database. Now, over 41% of the marriage entries have been moved from the static pages into the database. The database has ALL Washington County entries and about 40% of St. Francois County. The Washington County consolidated index is in still in place. In about two weeks, the old individual indexes will be eliminated. Brian J. Oster Vien Ici webmaster mailto:[email protected] http://www.vienici.com

Jefferson County, Missouri Marriages Volume 1 1869-1881 is now completely abstracted with a full name index. It includes over 1300 marriages. This is in addition to another Volume 1 earlier abstracted. The index includes 148 names not listed in the hand written index of the volume. There are also a few entries from earlier years included in the volume. Jefferson County all marriages from 1826-1885 are abstracted plus African-American marriages 1866-1878 -- also -- also -- also -- also -- Crawford County marriages from 1828-1897 are abstracted Franklin County all marriages from 1819-1865 & 1914-1921 are abstracted plus African-American marriages 1865-1875 St. Francois Co. marriages 1818-1900 Washington Co. marriages 1815-1937 plus African-American marriages 1865-1875 Just click on http://www.vienici.com/abmomarr.html to bring you to a single page of links for the abstract indexes. The indexes have links to the abstract pages of in some cases to the lookup pages. Or click on http://www.vienici.com/moabs/lookup.html to the site Lookup Page where many of the Washington County abstracts have been loaded into a searchable database. The searchable database now includes nearly 12,000 entries that cross county boundaries. You can also Search the site for surnames. Keep your eye on the site. New marriages are being abstracted continually. Brian J. Oster [email protected] webmaster http://www.vienici.com

I was introduced by Brian of Southeastern Missouri Genealogy online of some early Missouri map formations for the state. It is interesting to see how much land Crawford County consisted of when it first started. Take a look. http://www.segenealogy.com/missouri/mo_maps/home.htm -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand

Seeking info on the Sylvester WARD and Katherine (STUDDARD) WARD family. Also the William STUDDARD family. William was supposedly married twice. 1st to a Lucy E. _____ and 2nd to Nancy Emily PRUITT.

Trying to determine what ever happened to the James PREWIT family. In 1880 they were residing in Boone Twp. The family was comprised of James PREWIT the father, his wife Nancy E., and their children in 1880 were Lantha A. a daughter, James A., Lucy, Henry and Mary. Their daughter Lantha could be Louise Alice PREWIT. Any kind of information would be helpful, ie marriages, deaths, births of grandchildren, probate records, etc. Am trying to tie all my PREWIT family members together, for a family tree. Rich Van Wagenen

This is a follow-up to my recent post about needed access to Vital Records. The problem is not that the vital records cannot be accessed; they can. For a fee, the staff at the Department of Health will search for a record. If they find it, they will send a copy. Too often the response is that they found no record. I sought birth and death data re my aunt, who died before her brother, my father, was born. He told me that her given name was Mildred. I sent my money for searches and was advised that no records were found. I found her baptismal record by a different given name. It happens that the relevant records in this case were not held by the Mo. Dept. of Health, and I was able to review the hand-written birth and death records. I found her birth record by a third given name, but, by the time she died, she was indeed Mildred. A staff simply cannot locate a record under such circumstances. A researcher can, but depends on access to the data. My grandmother's maiden name was very difficult to spell. I knew the ship and arrival date of her aunt (same surname). It took me three times thru a transcription of the ship list to recognize her thoroughly-butchered name. Of course, I could not find her name in the index. I never did find her sister who was with her. My name is Doerr; in an old list, it is spelled 'Ter'. Only by searching the original records, or microforms thereof, can one find the needed data in such cases. (I guess I now have an idea as to how my ancestors pronounced our name.) The researcher has patience and incentive to find the data; any staff must depend on their imperfect indexes and the Health Department has incentive to send a 'no find' letter. Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

Your County Coordinator is in need of assistants and assistance. Is there anyone that has any ideas for new projects, perhaps you've seen on other sites? Is there anyone with HTML experience that would like to work as an Assistant County Coordinator? I have several things going at once and time has come to get the job done. -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand

Records at risk A number of kinds of records that are of value for family historians are often at risk because only the originals exist. Thus, they are at risk of discard as old and value-less, or of fire, storm, mold, age-related deterioration or vandalism. These include mainly school records (teachers daily records that show the names of the pupils, often their parents or guardians), bible records, sexton's records, mortuary records and church records. You may know of others. Some business records are also valuable, if only indirectly. (Fortunately, in Missouri, most courthouse records have been microfilmed, but it pays to check with the officials to be sure.) There are several ways to reduce the risk of loss of these records. These include photocopying, microfilming (with the negatives stored safely, at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City or at the State Archives), photography, copying to CD or DVD, and publication in a well-distributed and well-indexed organ. By well-indexed, I mean both name-indexed within the organ and, for periodicals, indexed in Periodical Source Index (PERSI). For the present, a procedure of both publication and filming on silver (not color) film provides the most security. That way, both an image of the original and an indexed transcription is preserved. Digital recording media change so often that the records may become unavailable when the system for reading the media become obsolete and are discarded. This is to urge all those interested in family history to search for such records and to see to the protection of all those found. If you cannot make the rounds of your local courthouses and historical societies and museums, please call around, and use mail or e-mail. Judgment is needed as to where to publish. Church, school, sexton's and mortuary records are best published in a local magazine if it is indexed in PERSI. Bible records, which, by the way, do not lend themselves to microfilming, are best published in a magazine that covers the area in which the family lived, or in a magazine of regional or state-wide coverage if the family extends beyond, say, a county. I offer publication of good transcriptions in the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal. The Journal is widely distributed, has a good annual index, and is indexed in PERSI. I can work from good photocopies or scans of the originals. There is, of course, no charge for publishing in the Journal, and submitters receive a copy of each issue in which their work appears. If a record collection is too large for publication in the Journal, I can probably help arrange for publication in book form. Bob Doerr, Editor, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

Access to Records In 1910, the State of Missouri assumed the responsibility for keeping vital records. The records were kept confidential, as was proper, at least for birth records. However, some of the records are now 90 years old; it is time to place microfilms of all the birth records, with indexes, that are older than 72 years, and all of the death and other records, into the State Archives for full public access. Efforts have been made in the legislature, but the Department of Health obfuscates. The Department proposes to place on line images of the birth records 90 years or older and death records 50 years or older. That will be fine, but it is not enough. This is to urge that, during this political season, your candidates for the legislature and state senate be queried as to their positions on the matter. Owing to the Federal regulation that census data remain closed for 72 years, that interval has become a de facto standard in the USA. A 72-year interval suffices for privacy. All that is needed is to add to Sect. 193.245 of RSMO 1994 new sub-paragraphs as follows: (4) The department shall enable the State Archives to duplicate, for public access, microfilms of the following: a) all birth records that are 72 years old or older, and indexes to such records, and b) all other vital records and indexes. (5) The department shall enable, annually, the State Archives to duplicate microfilms of the following: a) all birth records that have become 72 years old or older, and indexes to such records, and b) all other vital records and indexes. Bob Doerr Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/state.htm

I like to see the list so active. I am getting allot of email bounces, mostly from hotmail. If you are subbed with hotmail and haven't cleaned out your mailbox or are no longer using that account, no problem, I will unsub you from the list until such time you get things squared away. -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand

I am looking for information regarding any Parish/Parrish family who married into the Metcalf family. I believe they lived in this area possibly in the mid 1880's and earlier. Thank you. MBranham ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/

I am a reader of this list, and don't mind at all that it isn't one of frenetic postings. Paul, Greenlee, Blunt, Mountry folks, however, SHOULD post a lot of stuff so I can benefit from their knowledge, along with Woolfolk, Owen, Heflin and kindred families. Adrien Paul Taylor, son, grandson, great grandson and great great grandson of Missourians, including several from Crawford County. Adrien Taylor, Boise, Idaho "Hanging is too good for the man who puns; he should be drawn and quoted." Fred Allen >>> "Frank Annis" <[email protected]> 10/13/02 05:30 AM >>> Good morning Janet, I have no idea who the administrator is, but it is a good idea. HELLO administrator are you out there? Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael/Janet Olive" <[email protected]> To: "Frank Annis" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Wondering > Hi Pam, > Maybe we can do a roll call, what do you think? > Who is the list administrator? > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Annis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: Wondering > > > > Hi Janet, it is still on, but real quiet lately. Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael/Janet Olive" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:53 AM > > Subject: Wondering > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > I have been off the list for awhile and since I have been back I > have > > > not received any copy of mail from anyone. Is this list still > active? > > > Thank > > > Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ______________________________

so are you still the administrator of this list or not??? Joe, I mean?? Juanita

That is what I meant, Just said it wrong:( Juanita > They were not taken away, I was just not able to adopt them in time. > >

Seeking information on William Anna McFarland. Born in Missouri around 1933. Married Thomas M. Spenser in Crawford County, MO, 30 April 1851. Married John T. Davis in Crawford Co. 3 July 1856 and settled in southern Gasconade County. Moved to Stoddard County after 1968. Carol Davis McDonald Manchester, MO

Thanks Joe, Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe L. Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: Re: Wondering > [email protected] wrote: > > > Didn't they take it away from Joe Miller when he was having computer > > problems? I have no idea who the new person is. Wish Joe was back:( > > Juanita Jones Johnson > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > The GenConnect Boards were put up for adoption after Rootsweb redid all the > GenConnect Boards to the new structure, and many admins abandoned their boards, so > everyone was required to "re-adopt" their boards, to make sure none were abandoned. > They were not taken away, I was just not able to adopt them in time. > > But because of the new structure I was forced to redo the photo album page, since I > was the one that wrote the bios on the boards and link the photo's and link the > photo's to the bios, it required the use of the board admin. capabilities to > accomplish this. Needless to say I was quite upset by the new structure, all the > bios links were useless. > > I don't have time now to work the boards and it is best to have a third party who > has time to correct all the errors and change everyone's email address as required. > I do hope everyone contacts the board admins when their email address changes, > otherwise the queries are useless. > > I have gone back to the old way for queries, so you will find the surname index > quite helpful. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/queries.htm > > -- > > Joe L. Miller > > Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ > > Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm > > Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html > > Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ > > United We Stand > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

[email protected] wrote: > Didn't they take it away from Joe Miller when he was having computer > problems? I have no idea who the new person is. Wish Joe was back:( > Juanita Jones Johnson > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 The GenConnect Boards were put up for adoption after Rootsweb redid all the GenConnect Boards to the new structure, and many admins abandoned their boards, so everyone was required to "re-adopt" their boards, to make sure none were abandoned. They were not taken away, I was just not able to adopt them in time. But because of the new structure I was forced to redo the photo album page, since I was the one that wrote the bios on the boards and link the photo's and link the photo's to the bios, it required the use of the board admin. capabilities to accomplish this. Needless to say I was quite upset by the new structure, all the bios links were useless. I don't have time now to work the boards and it is best to have a third party who has time to correct all the errors and change everyone's email address as required. I do hope everyone contacts the board admins when their email address changes, otherwise the queries are useless. I have gone back to the old way for queries, so you will find the surname index quite helpful. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/queries.htm -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand

Yes your admin is still around and the list is still active. Anyone can call a roll call if they wish and there is no requirement for anyone to participate if they don't want to. I would encourage everyone to view past messages: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=MOCRAWFO I have sent many research suggestions that you will want to review or just type in a surname to see if it has been discussed on the list. -- Joe L. Miller Research Coordinator - The Pinnell Family Network http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pinnell/ Missouri Archive File Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/mofiles.htm Missouri Tombstone Project Manager, USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/missouri.html Coordinator of Crawford County, MOGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocrawfo/ United We Stand