I've been working on that group for several years. Where did you get the birth date (1781) for John B? Haven't got him a dad or mom yet...the other Riney's in KY seem to belong to someone else. James is my best bet for a dad...I'll share what meager data I have. Been on both the St. Mary MD and Washington Co. KY sites....no luck. I also didn't know about Mary Ogden from MD. There weren't any records on her in St. Marys...could she have been from a different county. I always thought it was interesting that she signed (x'ed) her name: Mary Ogden Riney in the estate papers for John B. Do you have them? My connection is Mary Annie Riney m. James Shuman, parents of Rosetta Shuman who married Hosea Stout, son of George Stout and mary (Polly) Bennett, who were parents of my grandmother, Annie Altha Stout. (1873-1946) who married James Basil Helms and stayed in the Canton area. Let me hear from you and your line. Ann in Carmel