Family Tree DNA has also started a KNOTT/KNOTTS, etc study group. All both of us! We're looking for KNOTTS' spelled with and without a "k", with a "s", and all variations. I've even talked to a Polish KNOTTS'. And I think there is a group of German KNOTTS' who spell their name KNODTS. Everyone is welcome. We will get some people who are unrelated, but it should be very interesting. If you are a male KNOTTS, or variant, and are interested, please contact me at raknotts@qwest.net. But don't ask me any technical questions. ---yet. Bob

Thanks, Jim. This is so helpful. Really appreciate the information. Annie On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Jim Howard wrote: > Dear Annie, > > From: > Cemetery Inscriptions of Clark County, Missouri. > Compiled by Wilma (Walker) Dunlap & Wilma (Suter) Walker. > Published by TREE ART PUBLISHERS, 950 Rue De La Banque - 201, St. Louis, Mo. > 63141-5104. > Copyright Wilma (Walker) Dunlap 1974. > > Page 382. > > WYACONDA CEMETERY > Wyaconda Township, Section 32 > > Wood, G.W., 1867 - 1936 Wood, Rosa M., 1873 - > > Goodan, Lola W., wife of Phillip, dau of J.W. & E.B. Wood, June 15, 1887 - > Sept. 24, 1897. > > ***************** > > Jim Howard > San Jose, California > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy or Annie Utick [mailto:autick@mt.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:09 PM > To: MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOCLARK-L] Cemetery lookups? > > > > Dear listers, > > I suspect that some of the people I'm researching may have been > buried in Clark County, and wonder if I could get someone with access to > the cemetery records to tell me if they are to be found there. I do not > have death dates -- that is mainly what I am looking for. The people > were: > > Lola (Wood) Goodan > > and > > Gladys Wood (don't know if she ever married) > > Many thanks for any help. > > Annie > > > > >

Dear listers, I suspect that some of the people I'm researching may have been buried in Clark County, and wonder if I could get someone with access to the cemetery records to tell me if they are to be found there. I do not have death dates -- that is mainly what I am looking for. The people were: Lola (Wood) Goodan and Gladys Wood (don't know if she ever married) Many thanks for any help. Annie

Dear Annie, From: Cemetery Inscriptions of Clark County, Missouri. Compiled by Wilma (Walker) Dunlap & Wilma (Suter) Walker. Published by TREE ART PUBLISHERS, 950 Rue De La Banque - 201, St. Louis, Mo. 63141-5104. Copyright Wilma (Walker) Dunlap 1974. Page 382. WYACONDA CEMETERY Wyaconda Township, Section 32 Wood, G.W., 1867 - 1936 Wood, Rosa M., 1873 - Goodan, Lola W., wife of Phillip, dau of J.W. & E.B. Wood, June 15, 1887 - Sept. 24, 1897. ***************** Jim Howard San Jose, California -----Original Message----- From: Andy or Annie Utick [mailto:autick@mt.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:09 PM To: MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOCLARK-L] Cemetery lookups? Dear listers, I suspect that some of the people I'm researching may have been buried in Clark County, and wonder if I could get someone with access to the cemetery records to tell me if they are to be found there. I do not have death dates -- that is mainly what I am looking for. The people were: Lola (Wood) Goodan and Gladys Wood (don't know if she ever married) Many thanks for any help. Annie

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Iris BUTCHER taken at the Harnish Studio in Albany, Oregon. The photograph was taken in the early 1900's and notes that Iris was just 18 months old when it was taken. It appears to have been a gift to "Aunt Lou". Someone has also written Grace GILL BUTCHER's child on the back of the photograph. With the help of a BUTCHER Family researcher I have been able to determine that Iris BUTCHER was born 17 Nov 1898 in Linn County, Oregon to parents Frank BUTCHER and Grace GILL who were married on 5 October 1898 in Linn County, Oregon. Frank was the son of James E. BUTCHER and Elizabeth Ann JOHNSON of Clark County, Missouri. Frank's siblings were Horace, Hellena, Thurston R., Ella, and Corbey or Cortes, and Geneva BUTCHER all born in Missouri or Oregon. Grace GILL may have been the daughter of Matthew C. GILL and his wife Nancy E. GILL. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to family. If you are a member of this family or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

-----Original Message----- From: Donna Gann [mailto:dgann@getatlas.com] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:42 PM To: MOCLARK-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Shallenberger I am looking for my relatives on the Shallenberger side. My grandmother was Lucy Elizabeth Shallenberger, her father was Lester Leroy Norton Shallenber, her granfather was Jacob Shallenberger, and his father Isaac Shallenber. If you are related please e-mail me at dgann65803@yahoo.com I hope to here from someone. Donna Gann

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Siner [mailto:tjsras@att.net] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:34 PM To: MO Clark Subject: {not a subscriber} Pictures I would be delighted to find gravestone pictures of grandparents and farther back. As soon as I figure out how to do a web site for the info. I have collected on my ancestors I plan to add some of the pictures I have. As others stated, a real genealogist would be delighted to find them. Twila

It is great that you are leaving the cemetery information et al on the web! I thought it was just me that liked to visit cemeteries and tack pictures of tombstones. I spend alot of my holidays doing so! Of course, a lot of questions from my friends and family! Like why?!?! I have taken pictures of Kelley's that I thought were mine, but found out they were not BUT was able to share these pictures with Kelley families that "belonged" to those grave sites in New Jersey! That made be feel good! And will continue to do so! In my trip to Lee, Clark and Scotland Co. in 1999 I did the same thing! It was an enjoyable vacation! Forget what the friends and family say!!! Gary Kelley

Mitch, some people just can't handle anything to do with death. I think people who are into genealogy are a bit "different", as we see the inhabitants of cemeteries as departed friends, not something or someone to be avoided at all costs. You might want to warn members of your family that the photos are there, so they can avoid them if they wish. In fact, you might make that a separate part of your website if you haven't already done so. Bob KNOTTS, a MD/DE., OR KNOTTS ----- Original Message ----- From: <WilliamCDF@aol.com> To: <MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:19 AM Subject: [MOCLARK-L] more on my request for opinions! > Thanks for the comments all! > > I should have gone on a bit about my reason for asking how you'd feel if you > discovered photos of your grandparents or great grandparents grave on a > website. I have just such a website. It is somewhat extensive in photographs > of grave stones. It seems that several times I have directed new found > relatives to my web address and thought the'd be overjoyed at such easy > access to their history and the bonus photographs that I have traveled > thousands of miles to get. The relative visits my website and I never hear > from them again. Go figure ... > > My first guess is that they were shocked and offended to discover the graves > of their close ancestors publicly displayed. I assume they didn't want to > complain and just refrain from further contact. My inclination is to remove > the photos. BUT, if I discovered a website full of photos of graves I might > never be able to visit, I'd be thrilled! > > Another of life's little dilemmas ... > > Mitch > > >

Oops... embarrassed. In my previous post there was a cut & paste error. The message should read: Thanks to you all for the comments. I think I will leave the photographs posted as they are. As for the information that is posted, like most of you, I make every effort to assure it is correct. I have actually made a project out of correcting bad information about my ancestors that I have seen along the way using birth certificates, death certificates, census records, and gravestone information. As for privacy, I do not post any information on generations younger than my grandparents who were born 1880-1902. Any individual not known for a fact to be deceased has PRIVATE behind their name. However, like most, I have witnessed much information about living individuals on the Internet. I for one, would not want to find my name or my children's names there. Thanks again for your comments. I'll leave the photographs for others to find! Best regards, Mitch Ryder Oregon City, Oregon

Thanks to you all for the comments. I think I will leave the photographs posted as they are. As for the information that is posted, like most of you, I make every effort to assure it is correct. I have actually made a project out of correcting bad information about my ancestors that I have seen along the way. As for privacy, using birth certificates, death certificates, census records, and gravestone information. I do not post any information on generations younger than my grandparents who were born 1880-1902. Any individual not known for a fact to be deceased has PRIVATE behind their name. However, like most, I have witnessed much information about living individuals on the Internet. I for one, would not want to find my name or my children's names there. Thanks again for your comments. I'll leave the photographs for others to find! Best regards, Mitch Ryder Oregon City, Oregon

What you have probably come across are takers. They might have downloaded your stuff and never bothered to say thank you. This world is full of people who will take whatever they can get and don't bother to share what they have. It takes all kinds and we have to put up with them. I would urge you to keep your web site in tact. Connie Street ckcasey@louisacomm.net Pray for peace. Connie's Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/ Keith's Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/keith.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <WilliamCDF@aol.com> To: <MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: [MOCLARK-L] more on my request for opinions! > Thanks for the comments all! > > I should have gone on a bit about my reason for asking how you'd feel if you > discovered photos of your grandparents or great grandparents grave on a > website. I have just such a website. It is somewhat extensive in photographs > of grave stones. It seems that several times I have directed new found > relatives to my web address and thought the'd be overjoyed at such easy > access to their history and the bonus photographs that I have traveled > thousands of miles to get. The relative visits my website and I never hear > from them again. Go figure ... > > My first guess is that they were shocked and offended to discover the graves > of their close ancestors publicly displayed. I assume they didn't want to > complain and just refrain from further contact. My inclination is to remove > the photos. BUT, if I discovered a website full of photos of graves I might > never be able to visit, I'd be thrilled! > > Another of life's little dilemmas ... > > Mitch > >

Thanks for the comments all! I should have gone on a bit about my reason for asking how you'd feel if you discovered photos of your grandparents or great grandparents grave on a website. I have just such a website. It is somewhat extensive in photographs of grave stones. It seems that several times I have directed new found relatives to my web address and thought the'd be overjoyed at such easy access to their history and the bonus photographs that I have traveled thousands of miles to get. The relative visits my website and I never hear from them again. Go figure ... My first guess is that they were shocked and offended to discover the graves of their close ancestors publicly displayed. I assume they didn't want to complain and just refrain from further contact. My inclination is to remove the photos. BUT, if I discovered a website full of photos of graves I might never be able to visit, I'd be thrilled! Another of life's little dilemmas ... Mitch

I think I'm understanding how you feel. I ended up having someone take a bunch of my family history and put it on the web site. For those who are dead, I didn't care. For those who are alive, it's sort of a "tender" matter, for it gives maiden names, etc. If I were to find my great grandparents (and didn't know where they were), I probably would have been ecstatic, but wondered who the person was who knew about them. Then I'd go seek that person out to see if they had MORE. But that's the genealogist in me, I guess. And, as Connie quite appropriately mentioned, it does depent upon the accuracy of the information. At least it gives those who do NOT know anything about that person a place to start. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith/Connie Street" <ckcasey@louisacomm.net> To: <MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MOCLARK-L] opinions please! > I would be absolutely thrilled!!!! Anyone who would not be is not a > genealogist. > > That's what we all hope for - the only question that remains is the accuracy > of the information. > > Connie Street > ckcasey@louisacomm.net > Pray for peace. > > Connie's Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/ > Keith's Web site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/keith.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <WilliamCDF@aol.com> > To: <MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:51 PM > Subject: [MOCLARK-L] opinions please! > > > > You located a website that has your family history on it. You discover a > > photograph of your great grandparents grave there, or even your > grandparents > > grave. How do you feel about that? > > > > Thanks for your opinion ... Mitch > > > > > >

I would be absolutely thrilled!!!! Anyone who would not be is not a genealogist. That's what we all hope for - the only question that remains is the accuracy of the information. Connie Street ckcasey@louisacomm.net Pray for peace. Connie's Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/ Keith's Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~conniesfamily/keith.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <WilliamCDF@aol.com> To: <MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: [MOCLARK-L] opinions please! > You located a website that has your family history on it. You discover a > photograph of your great grandparents grave there, or even your grandparents > grave. How do you feel about that? > > Thanks for your opinion ... Mitch > >

You located a website that has your family history on it. You discover a photograph of your great grandparents grave there, or even your grandparents grave. How do you feel about that? Thanks for your opinion ... Mitch

I am tooking for Daniel Robert Boyd and Lydia Ann Frantz. We know thay were married their in 1867 in Kahoka County Missouri. Looking for their families and his parents. And children if any one can please help me.My friend's family bibla said they were married their. We dont seam to find them at all. And on the 1850 and 1860 census they were their. Hope some one can please help me. Thank you Mary

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Hartman [mailto:robert.w.hartman@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:29 PM To: Robert Siner Subject: RE: {not a subscriber} Marriages Please replay to tjsras@worldnet.att.net -----Original Message----- From: Robert Siner [mailto:tjsras@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:38 PM To: MO Clark Subject: {not a subscriber} Marriages I am looking for a marriage record for Carol Pearl Roberts and Robert Henry (Hank) Elder. The date is between Dec. 1, 1924 and Oct 30, 1925. They were from Fairfield, IA. Also, John Marshall and Cynthia Ann Kinney from IA. I was told "Aug. 9, 1865 in MO" and was also told "sometime between 1862 and 1865". Any help and time spent are greatly appreciated. Twila in VA tjsras@att.net

I have a Benjamin Dawson, who would have been buried in the Kahoka cemeterty circa 1900. Since we paid $550 to have the headstone reset. I'd like to know if it was really "our" guy. Any help wouuld be appreciated. Peggy

I do have the book and checked. There are no Channell in the name index. There are, however, some by the name of Chappell. Possible it could be a transcription error? Here are the Chappell's: Page 328 for the Fairmont Cemetery in Washington Township, Section 21: Chappell, W.G., d. Feb. 15, 1867, aged 23 yrs, 3 days, ss Chappell, Ilda J., d. July 13, 1870, aged 22 yrs, 2 months, ss Chappell, Lou A. Rose, d. Jan. 3, 1875, aged 29 yrs, 6 months Chappell, Abram, d. Feb. 28, 1870, aged 83 years Page 389 for the Wyaconda Cemetery in Wyaconda Township, Section 32: Chappell, Jesse, 1871 - 1918 Chappell, Emma L., his wife, 1865 - Chappell, Cecil F., 1900 - 1970 Jim Howard -----Original Message----- From: M.E. Mathews [mailto:mem@memathews.com] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:35 PM To: MOCLARK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOCLARK-L] Cemetery Listers: Does anyone have access to the book Cemetery Inscriptions of Clark County, Missouri by Wilma Walker Dunlap? I am searching for any Channell names contained within. Thanks for any assistance.