I have been searching for some papers this afternoon. Shows what a good filing system I have. I will report about them another day. I do not know where Letitia was born. I really do not have any other information about her. I am hoping Betsy will find a treasure chest in her Aunt's things. Maybe she has the needed proof of Letitia's family. I have two lists of children, one from a descendant of Campbell and another from a descendant of Jane. With Betsy's list, I find the common names on all three lists are Ann, Malinda b 1817, Jane, and James b 1823. The List from Campbell's descendant are as follows: Ann, Jane, Matilda, Polly, Sarah, Campbell b 1815 TN d 1881, Melinda, Martha Jane b 1820 (gravemarker says 1815), James and the 3 children of Mahala and Thomas, Hetty Thomas b abt 1848, Thomas H. b abt 1850 and George W. born 1853 d 1916. The List from Jane's descendant are as follows: Jane b 1809, Ann b. 1811, Campbell b 1815, Melinda, Mary b 1824, Hutchen B. James H, and Mariah. According to the 1850 Census for Cedar County, Mariah was the name of the wife of James H. I have attempted to put these children on the 1830 Census for Ray County. This is using the list from the Campbell Descendant. Thomas English head of household: 1 m 5-10 (James H.) 1 m 15-20 (Campbell) 1 m 20-30 (____) 1 m 30-40 (Thomas) 1 f younger than 5 (_______) 3 f 10-15 (Martha J, Jane, Polly) 1 f 10-15 (Malinda) 1 f 15-20 (Matilda) 1 f 30-40 (Letitia) Robert Graham is listed with 1 m 20-30 and 1 f 15-20 (Ann) John Wells is listed with 2 m younger than 5 1 m 5-10, 1 m 20-30 (John) 1 f younger than 5 1 f 20-30 (Sarah) All for now, Pat