Hello: I would love to have more information on the murder of Thomas J. Phipps. I know that William C. Cook and Thomas P. Moore were accused of the murder and that is all I know. I am trying to determine if William C. Cook is the same William C. Cook that is a member of my family. Thank you. Deborah Pirie piriedd@aol.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Cindy, Would you be able to send me a scan of the articles on this trial? I am descended from this Phipps family and did not know the story. He would have been a second cousin many times removed. If you cannot send a scan, contact me off list and I would like to arrange providing the cost of photocopy and mailing. Thanks, R Ellis Austin, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: <mocedar-request@rootsweb.com> To: <mocedar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: MOCEDAR Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MOCEDAR Digest, Vol 2, Issue 27 (CAATHA@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:01:55 EDT > From: CAATHA@aol.com > Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] MOCEDAR Digest, Vol 2, Issue 27 > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c56.10ffe9fd.333891a3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Kay, were you'all able to go inside and retrieve the museum artifacts that > were on display? What about the old newspapers that were stored upstairs? I > took some photo's of the inside of the jail when my cousin and I visited in > November 2000. > > My ggreat-grandfather Thomas P Moore spent some time in that jail in 1891 as > he was accused of being an accomplice in the murder of Thomas J. Phipps - > Thomas P. Moore was acquitted. We were able to find the court records of the > trial at the courthouse but we found the accounting of the entire trial printed in > the Cedar County Republican April 1891 - and made copies. I can just > imagine my ggreat-granfather scratching his name on the concrete. The jail would > have been fairly new at that time. I am so sad the city tore it down. I do > greatly appreciate all that you and the historical society did to try to save it. > > > Cindy and Allen Atha > My ancestors from Cedar and St. Clair County: Jonathan Moore & Levisa > Turpin, John Wesley Moore & Martha Crockett, Thomas P Moore & Harriett Belle > Harper, Virginia "Jennie" Lee Moore and John Leslie Allen. > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MOCEDAR list administrator, send an email to > MOCEDAR-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MOCEDAR mailing list, send an email to MOCEDAR@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MOCEDAR Digest, Vol 2, Issue 28 > **************************************
Kay, were you'all able to go inside and retrieve the museum artifacts that were on display? What about the old newspapers that were stored upstairs? I took some photo's of the inside of the jail when my cousin and I visited in November 2000. My ggreat-grandfather Thomas P Moore spent some time in that jail in 1891 as he was accused of being an accomplice in the murder of Thomas J. Phipps - Thomas P. Moore was acquitted. We were able to find the court records of the trial at the courthouse but we found the accounting of the entire trial printed in the Cedar County Republican April 1891 - and made copies. I can just imagine my ggreat-granfather scratching his name on the concrete. The jail would have been fairly new at that time. I am so sad the city tore it down. I do greatly appreciate all that you and the historical society did to try to save it. Cindy and Allen Atha My ancestors from Cedar and St. Clair County: Jonathan Moore & Levisa Turpin, John Wesley Moore & Martha Crockett, Thomas P Moore & Harriett Belle Harper, Virginia "Jennie" Lee Moore and John Leslie Allen. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
You are right - that's where we first met. I have a lot of fond memories of that place, it will always be in my heart. The people that were the cause of it's destruction will have to live with that fact forever. It's funny how some things will come back to haunt people after the deed is done. Dan Honeycutt -----Original Message----- From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kay Snow Sent: 03/23/2007 10:55 PM To: mocedar@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone Dan, I think the first time I met you was in that old building. We tried but the city had it's mind made up and were not going to change, Why does the political process have to be so crooked. I was in touch with FEMA, SEMA and the Preservation Society, everything was go but the "city" would not budge. I just hate being lied to. The fault and cover up was close to being out in the open..........I think my new name locally is "mudd." kay > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Honeycutt > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:59 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > Shameful. I'm sure going to miss that old building. > > Dan Honeycutt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Kay Snow > Sent: 03/23/2007 6:05 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > > I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through > with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since > 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, > well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, > and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the > entire downtown section. > > It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was > dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. > > The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could > not convince the city it was worth saving........... > > They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if > we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. > > I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we > found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had > scratched messages, names in the cement wall. > > I put a picture of the shame here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm > > Have a look. > > Kay > > A government big enough to supply everything you need is big > enough to take everything you have ..... The course of > history shows that as a > government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas > Jefferson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dan, I think the first time I met you was in that old building. We tried but the city had it's mind made up and were not going to change, Why does the political process have to be so crooked. I was in touch with FEMA, SEMA and the Preservation Society, everything was go but the "city" would not budge. I just hate being lied to. The fault and cover up was close to being out in the open..........I think my new name locally is "mudd." kay > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Honeycutt > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:59 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > Shameful. I'm sure going to miss that old building. > > Dan Honeycutt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Kay Snow > Sent: 03/23/2007 6:05 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > > I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through > with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since > 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, > well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, > and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the > entire downtown section. > > It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was > dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. > > The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could > not convince the city it was worth saving........... > > They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if > we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. > > I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we > found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had > scratched messages, names in the cement wall. > > I put a picture of the shame here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm > > Have a look. > > Kay > > A government big enough to supply everything you need is big > enough to take everything you have ..... The course of > history shows that as a > government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas > Jefferson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Dan, I think the first time I met you was in that old building. We tried but the city had it's mind made up and were not going to change, Why does the political process have to be so crooked. I was in touch with FEMA, SEMA and the Preservation Society, everything was go but the "city" would not budge. I just hate being lied to. The fault and cover up was close to being out in the open.......... kay > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dan Honeycutt > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:59 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > Shameful. I'm sure going to miss that old building. > > Dan Honeycutt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com]On > Behalf Of Kay Snow > Sent: 03/23/2007 6:05 PM > To: mocedar@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone > > > I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through > with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since > 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, > well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, > and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the > entire downtown section. > > It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was > dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. > > The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could > not convince the city it was worth saving........... > > They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if > we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. > > I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we > found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had > scratched messages, names in the cement wall. > > I put a picture of the shame here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm > > Have a look. > > Kay > > A government big enough to supply everything you need is big > enough to take everything you have ..... The course of > history shows that as a > government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas > Jefferson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Kay, I'm very sorry to hear about the old Jail building. My mother's family is all from Cedar County, near Caplinger Mills ~ Mann, Maslen, Austin, Fields & Reeder. I have to say, as president of the Lone Jack Historical Society, I can certainly sympathize the Cedar County Historical Society. We have a Civil War battlefield in the middle of our town, Lone Jack, Missouri, and the City is doing everything they can to develope it, with the exception of 3 acres. The Historical Society has been blocked in every attempt we've made to save it. I will add, on the good side of all of this, the City turned over the 3 acre Battlefield, Soldier's Cemetery and Museum, which was set aside in 1963 with the help of President Harry S. Truman, to the Historical Society in July 2006, but it took years of being a pain in their backsides to accomplish that much. They were going to close the doors but we finally convinced them to let us manage it and keep it open. Stand firm, the squeaky wheel will eventually gets some grease!! And if all else fails, volunteer to chair the Historic Preservation Commission and process the necessary paperwork with the state to become a Certified Local Government, it's amazing what you can do with the State Historic Preservation Office behind you, if you get my drift!! Alinda M. Miller Lone Jack Historical Society Lone Jack, Missouri www.historiclonejack.org ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Kay Snow" <kgsno@alltel.net> Reply-To: mocedar@rootsweb.com To: <mocedar@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:05:23 -0500 I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the entire downtown section. It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could not convince the city it was worth saving........... They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had scratched messages, names in the cement wall. I put a picture of the shame here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm Have a look. Kay A government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ..... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ 5.5%* 30 year fixed mortgage rate. Good credit refinance. Up to 5 free quotes - *Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5d&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=910
Shameful. I'm sure going to miss that old building. Dan Honeycutt -----Original Message----- From: mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mocedar-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kay Snow Sent: 03/23/2007 6:05 PM To: mocedar@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOCEDAR] Old Jail is gone I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the entire downtown section. It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could not convince the city it was worth saving........... They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had scratched messages, names in the cement wall. I put a picture of the shame here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm Have a look. Kay A government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ..... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am very sorry to tell everyone that the city went through with tearing down the old Jail building, that's stood since 1888, I was told months ago that a rain would bring it down, well, it rained, it snowed, it was covered by an ice storm, and the kicker it survived the tornado that wiped out the entire downtown section. It took everything God threw at it and still stood. It was dismantled piece by piece never once did it fall. The Historical Society tried all we could think of and could not convince the city it was worth saving........... They promised to save the rocks for us for a time, however if we can't get a building and use them, the city gets them. I am without words to tell you all how sad this makes me, we found papers among the rubble, we found where prisoners had scratched messages, names in the cement wall. I put a picture of the shame here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm Have a look. Kay A government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ..... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. Thomas Jefferson
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patmontero25 Surnames: ferguson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1808/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Vernon F. Ferguson died Sep 1973 in El Dorado Spring, Cedar, MO. Thank you in advance for your help. Sincerely, Mrs. Patricia Montero Patmontero25@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cprevinsv Surnames: Mitchell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1807/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would love to hear from any descendants of Margaret Mitchell who settled in Cedar County, MO prior to 1860. She was apparently the widow of a Samuel B. Mitchell who died here in Tennessee. I descend from one of their daughters who married and remained here in Tennessee when the other members of her family went west. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Clintonville Cemetery was named after Clintonville, Mo. It is just south of El Dorado Springs. Glenda Pate Cedar County Library 717 East Street 808 S. Main Stockton, MO 65785 El Dorado Springs, Mo 64744 phone (417) 276-3413 (417) 876-4827 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, mocedar@rootsweb.com To: <MOCEDAR-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Obituary lookup for KINNISON cousins Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:58:04 -0000 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blgibson91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1806.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: sorry i made a mistake it was clintonville cemetary not clintonville missouri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blgibson91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1806.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: sorry i made a mistake it was clintonville cemetary not clintonville missouri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blgibson91 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1806.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: there is an online death certificate for a cornelius kennison born 16 sep 1867 died 1 jan 1931 lived at 217 w. martin eldorado springs missouri buried in clintonville missouri, parents peter kennison and elizabeth peters. all three were born in ohio. the informant for the death certificate was a clyde kennison. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: teachaide5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/509.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please contact me at teachaide5@comcast.net Have info for you and also can put you in contact with others........Rosie Bliss Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GMFerry Surnames: Brown, Beck. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/929.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Our Manley WM. Brown was born in Mo. and married Valerie Emma Beck. They lived in Eldorado Springs, MO. There was no ElDorado name in our Brown line. Don't know anything about your line of Browns/Eldorado. Sorry. All our lines came from Missouri. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: friendsoftheparks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/929.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are some strange coincidents in MY family with your search...My Grandmother Emma Eldorado Brown was born in Hart County Ga. Oct 13 1878... Your Manley Brown was born in 1879... The names Emma....and Leroy(My Father)...and ESPECIALLY Eldorado...make me wonder if these are RELATIVES... I had wondered Where in the world the name Eldorado had come from for my Grandmother....??????? My e-mail address is friendsoftheparks@gainesville.org my Cell phone is 404-312-2841...I would like to hear your thoughts on this..Emily Kaye Carlton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CharKolterman Surnames: KINNISON Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.missouri.counties.cedar/1806/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would like to obtain copies of obituaries for Cornelius Kinnison d. 1 Jan 1931, Burdetta M. McDowell Kinnison d. 21 May 1964 and Clyde Kinnison d. Apr 1934. Burdetta is buried in the Clintonville Cemetery. The census show they lived in the town of ElDorado Springs, MO. Thanks, Charlene Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I believe the Court House will have a copy of their marriage certificate !! ----- Original Message ----- From: <JD2OK@aol.com> To: <mocedar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: [MOCEDAR] Tilman in Stockton ca. Feb 1883 > Tilman in Stockton, Cedar ca.Feb 1883 > Would like to locate a marriage certificate for Alice Ann Tilman and John > Martin Burnett. > Any help or guidance will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jann > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to > everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOCEDAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Tilman in Stockton, Cedar ca.Feb 1883 Would like to locate a marriage certificate for Alice Ann Tilman and John Martin Burnett. Any help or guidance will be appreciated. Thanks, Jann ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.