Chris, You might check the Vernon Co Courthouse in Nevada. My great grandparents lived in Cedar County but went to Nevada to get married. Just a thought. Alinda Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: [MOCEDAR] Early Marriage Records in Cedar Co. MO > Hello to the list, > > I have been told by other researchers that my gggrandparents: James Monroe > CASH aka "Monroe" b. 1825 TN and Sarah Emiline FORD aka "Sallie" b. 1825-6 TN > are not listed in the marriage books of Cedar Co. MO ca. 1848-50. They > appear as man and wife in the 1850 Cedar Co. MO Census in Lynn Twsp. w/ son > John E. Cash age 4 months. I am wondering if they might still be recorded > and not be in any of the index's? Has anyone else found persons in the > marriage's of Cedar for this time period who had not been recorded on > whatever index's are used? Just wondering if I should still look for them in > the marriage books even though they don't appear to be listed...or if anyone > might have come across them. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Chris Cash > > > ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== > Genealogy: A hay stack full of needles. It's the threads I need. > To UNSUBSCRIBE send to: > MOCEDAR-L (OR -D)[email protected] > Only one word, unsubscribe in the message area > Turn off your signature. > The email you subscribed with > will have to be used to unsubscribe > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hello to the list, I have been told by other researchers that my gggrandparents: James Monroe CASH aka "Monroe" b. 1825 TN and Sarah Emiline FORD aka "Sallie" b. 1825-6 TN are not listed in the marriage books of Cedar Co. MO ca. 1848-50. They appear as man and wife in the 1850 Cedar Co. MO Census in Lynn Twsp. w/ son John E. Cash age 4 months. I am wondering if they might still be recorded and not be in any of the index's? Has anyone else found persons in the marriage's of Cedar for this time period who had not been recorded on whatever index's are used? Just wondering if I should still look for them in the marriage books even though they don't appear to be listed...or if anyone might have come across them. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Chris Cash

Hello list members, Just wanted to add a little praise for the Cedar Co. courthouse. I was there last summer and they were very nice and very helpful. They made every effort to find what I needed. I did not get copies of the records I wanted because the storage situation is terrible. The records I wanted happen to be in file cabinets that were behind other file cabinets and there was no way to get to them. I understand they are working on that. They did find dates for me and I intend to go back next summer and try again. Sherry working on YANCEY, PANKEY, HEMBREE, KILLINGSWORTH, THOMPSON, OWEN all of Cedar Co.

I was given a name of a person that worked at the courthouse and told that she was good at looking at things as she had the time. I contacted her and told her that I was referred to her and that I was in need of a will or probate. I asked if she could see if there was one on record and that I would be purchasing copies if there were. About a month later I received a letter that said they do not do lookups and was furnished with the names of 2 researchers who were for hire. Whenever I am in need of information or a lookup, the first place I go is to the Missouri State Archives. They are the best and I have bragged on them before. In this case they were unable to help me and they also referred me to the courthouse. Having requested information before from the courthouse with the same response, I didn't feel it would do any good to do so again. That is when I was told to ask for a certain person. The response was the same. As far as LDS goes. One of you sent some information as to the records they have. How does one go about viewing these records, or will they do the lookup for you? I do have to make this comment in favor of the courthouse. They have on 2 occasions furnished me with the copy of a marriage record in which I already had the information on. Cindy

Thanks Pat and Nancy for the LDS microfilm information - that should help alot! The closest LDS Family History Center to me is 75 miles but it sure beats 10 hours of driving (or more)! BUT if you're fortunate enough to visit Cedar County, mid October - early November is a wonderful time of year. Foliage is beautiful! Cindy

The Family History Library for the LDS church also has microfilm of the following marriage records: Index to marriage records 1884-1929 Film 932389 Marriage records, v. A-C 1845-1883 Film 932390 Marriage records, v. D-F 1881-1897 Film 932391 Marriage records, v. G 1897-1903 Film 932392 Marriage records, v. H 1903-1910 Film 932393 Marriage records, v. I-J 1910-1921 Marriage records (colored) 1867-1872 Film 932394 The "Index to the marriage records" listed above (film 932389) does not have every marriage record in the index. Even though I did not see two sets of my great-grandparents' names listed in the index, I still located their marriage records on the film of Marriage Records. You can see what other films are available through the Family History Library at http://familysearch.com/Search/customhomepage.asp select "Family History Library Catalog" Ordering these films for about $3.50 each through you neighborhood LDS Family History Center is a bargain. Good Luck! Nancy >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Cedar Co. Courthouse >Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:29:41 EST > >Dear Cindy, >I appreciate your feedback (and that of others) about research conditions >in >Cedar county. I understand it a lot better now. I realize I have to go >there >from Calif. to get anything. When you were delving in the murder files, did >you see anything about an ax murder? I am still trying to find the year and >locale for that one. A fellow supposedly hacked his wife and mother-in-law. > >Did you see if they had marriage and divorce records from the 1860s-1900? >That is what I need to access. > >thanks for the explanation. Margie Bridges > > >==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== >My ancestors did WHAT?!? >To UNSUBSCRIBE send to: >MOCEDAR-L (OR -D)[email protected] >Only one word, unsubscribe in the message area >Turn off you signature. > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Cindy, whomever was there WAS looking for info on a murder trial, so if you weren't joking, maybe we were there at the same time! I was there 3 Nov 2000. How much of a coincidence could THAT be?........thanks for being more specific about the situation at the Courthouse. Norma in CA [email protected] wrote: > > Hello to everyone on the list. I think I must have been one of those 4 other > women at the courthouse when Norma visited in November. We did have a good > time, even with the inconvenience of reaching some of the records! We found > what we were looking for - the court records of a 1891 murder trial. The > courthouse employees were very gracious, patient and accommodating. We were > allowed to copy the whole court record (over 50 pages). That was my second > visit there and we found the court house employees friendly both times BUT > they have a job to do and genealogical research is not part of their job. > They are trying very hard to find accessible storage for the old records and > are putting much on microfilm and I believe they have started a > remodeling/addition building project which will help greatly. They are > working closely with the Cedar Co. Historical Society so the historical > records will be preserved. Thank goodness they realize the importance of all > the "old" stuff. I've had experience with a county moving into a new > courthouse and some of those "old" records were destroyed or thrown away. > Horrors! > > The Tri-County Genealogical Society (Cedar, St. Clair and Vernon Counties) is > active but they do not do research. The Cedar Co. Historical Society has > several books about local history, including the cemetery directory and > reasonably priced I might add. <A > HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm">Cedar County Historical > Society</A> Address for the Tri County Gen. Society can be found at the > Cedar Co. Web site <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocedar/index.htm"> > Welcome to Cedar County</A> I guess the best solution for research at the > Cedar County Courthouse is a paid researcher and I do not have any > suggestions. Maybe someone else can help. I have several look up requests > that I need also. As you all know, each new piece of information leads to > more questions... > > I live about 10 hours from Cedar County but I have enjoyed my visits each > time and hope to go again. There's just never enough time. > > Searching the Thomas P. MOORE family which includes BARNES, CLINE, HACKLEMAN, > HARPER. > > Have a good day everyone. Cindy in Oklahoma > > ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== > Genealogy goes on... and on... and on... > To UNSUBSCRIBE send to: > MOCEDAR-L (OR -D)[email protected] > Only one word, unsubscribe in the message area > Turn off your signature. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

>But this brings up something else. Is there someone on this list >who has been >in the Cedar County courthouse? Please describe what it is like >when you do >genealogy work there. I am wondering if others besides Cindy and >I have been >turned down when we asked for records by mail. How are you >treated if you go >in person? >Regards from a disappointed Margie Bridges Margie, my experience in the courthouse was...."what are you doing bothering me" and the people were just not helpful at all. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

The Family History Library of the Mormon Church has quite a few microfilms of Probate Court Records. Try: Cedar County Record of Wills 1846 - 1892. Film Number 0932399. Missouri Probate Court for Cedar County 1846 - 1911, Film 0932405 Missouri Probate Court for Cedar County 1870 - 1902, Film 0932406 Missouri Probate Court for Cedar County, Administrators Notes 1866 -1911. Film # 0932407. There's a lot of Information there. Pat Darby Sanchez

I have had no problems getting mail from Cedar Co., just ask for one thing ay a time and you will have better luck. Donna in NC

I am wondering how long ago were you at the Cedar Co. courthouse? I thought that kinds of treatment was behind us. But if not please let me know. I have always had such good treatment, Carole even made a trip to the basement to find a record for me. Let me hear from you! Kay

Dear Cindy, I appreciate your feedback (and that of others) about research conditions in Cedar county. I understand it a lot better now. I realize I have to go there from Calif. to get anything. When you were delving in the murder files, did you see anything about an ax murder? I am still trying to find the year and locale for that one. A fellow supposedly hacked his wife and mother-in-law. Did you see if they had marriage and divorce records from the 1860s-1900? That is what I need to access. thanks for the explanation. Margie Bridges

Norma, Thank you for the info on the courthouse in Cedar County. I always find it intimidating to go in a court house when I know nothiing about it. Thanks, Linda Ledford Bacon

Hello to everyone on the list. I think I must have been one of those 4 other women at the courthouse when Norma visited in November. We did have a good time, even with the inconvenience of reaching some of the records! We found what we were looking for - the court records of a 1891 murder trial. The courthouse employees were very gracious, patient and accommodating. We were allowed to copy the whole court record (over 50 pages). That was my second visit there and we found the court house employees friendly both times BUT they have a job to do and genealogical research is not part of their job. They are trying very hard to find accessible storage for the old records and are putting much on microfilm and I believe they have started a remodeling/addition building project which will help greatly. They are working closely with the Cedar Co. Historical Society so the historical records will be preserved. Thank goodness they realize the importance of all the "old" stuff. I've had experience with a county moving into a new courthouse and some of those "old" records were destroyed or thrown away. Horrors! The Tri-County Genealogical Society (Cedar, St. Clair and Vernon Counties) is active but they do not do research. The Cedar Co. Historical Society has several books about local history, including the cemetery directory and reasonably priced I might add. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocchs/index.htm">Cedar County Historical Society</A> Address for the Tri County Gen. Society can be found at the Cedar Co. Web site <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocedar/index.htm"> Welcome to Cedar County</A> I guess the best solution for research at the Cedar County Courthouse is a paid researcher and I do not have any suggestions. Maybe someone else can help. I have several look up requests that I need also. As you all know, each new piece of information leads to more questions... I live about 10 hours from Cedar County but I have enjoyed my visits each time and hope to go again. There's just never enough time. Searching the Thomas P. MOORE family which includes BARNES, CLINE, HACKLEMAN, HARPER. Have a good day everyone. Cindy in Oklahoma

Cindy, I have copies of other letters of administration or wills probated after the husband's death. It should be found in 1879 or 1880. Maybe there is also a will made by the wife and that would be probated after she died, too. But this brings up something else. Is there someone on this list who has been in the Cedar County courthouse? Please describe what it is like when you do genealogy work there. I am wondering if others besides Cindy and I have been turned down when we asked for records by mail. How are you treated if you go in person? Regards from a disappointed Margie Bridges

Sorry you've not had good luck with the Cedar Co Courthouse Margie; they've always been MORE than willing to help and have gone WAY above and beyond in helping me each time I've been there (the last time was this past Nov - 2000).........they've been in the process of moving, however, (for a couple of years now)and things are still in total disarray -- including desks and chairs piled in front of file cabinets and doors, and on top of each other. When I was there, there were also four other ladies that were doing research, and we had to move two desks away from a file cabine in order to even open the drawers.........and crawled over a couple of desks in another room in order to get back to the area we needed to be............they're doing the best they can, but it's a slow and tedious job, plus they just don't have much help. There's a lady there (sorry, I can't remember her name) that's with the Genealogy Soc of Cedar Co that might be able to give you some guidance.....but I can't even tell you how to get in contact with her...........perhaps if you were to ask the Court house to forward a letter to her? (If I can find where I wrote her name and number, will post to the list, but please don't hold your breath, as I've not even got a clue as to where it might be, and won't even have time to search for it for at least a couple of months --- if you'll remind me in intervels of a month or so, to refresh my mind, I won't forget to check it for you when I can?) The Geni Soc is in a small building just to the rear of the Court House, and is well stocked with books and literature, plus some other interesting items...... The Courthouse is a beautiful older building of at least 3 floors, plus the basement - sorry, but I don't remember much of the lay-out or where things are, but they do have a marvelous collection of books on rollers/coasters...............I'd highly recommend you actually going there if you can manage it........ They have a small staff, and there are BUNCHES of books and things, so I'd really imagine they don't have the time to do much, if any, research for anyone.........that might be what the problem is....I don't know that for a fact, but it seems likely it is.......once you see just how much stuff there really is there, and how hard it is to get to it right now, I'm sure you'd understand. Good luck in your searches...... Norma in CA [email protected] wrote: > > Cindy, I have copies of other letters of administration or wills probated > after the husband's death. It should be found in 1879 or 1880. Maybe there is > also a will made by the wife and that would be probated after she died, too. > > But this brings up something else. Is there someone on this list who has been > in the Cedar County courthouse? Please describe what it is like when you do > genealogy work there. I am wondering if others besides Cindy and I have been > turned down when we asked for records by mail. How are you treated if you go > in person? > > Regards from a disappointed Margie Bridges > > ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== > If at first you don't succeed, post your information again! > > Listowner: mailto:[email protected]?Subject=Cedar > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I am searching for a will or probate on William Eldred who died in Cedar County in 1879. The Missouri Archives is unable to locate anything in their files and Cedar County is unwilling to help. I know that William owned land there and that he died in 1879. His wife died in 1905 and it is at that time that we have found a contract dated 1906 in which this land was left to his 4 children. Does anyone have access to wills and probates? I will be wanting to purchase copies if I can ever find the records. I am thinking that maybe the will wasn't probated until after the death of William's wife in 1905. Any suggestions? Cindy

Hello all again, On my earlier post I asked for all to look for my Mary Belle (Mary Anna Belle or combo's of) DUNAWAY- I have received alot of info from others out there and wish to say Thanks to them at this time. Seems so far she is not buried in Cedar county. I would think they would not carry the body to far in them days and she may be buried in one of the surrounding counties - if any can help with these it would be of great help Thanks again God Bless Patrick Lee Dunaway Duffy ><>

Hi Patrick, Sorry but couldn't find your Mary Belle listed in the Cedar County Cemetery Directory. The Dunnaways listed in Eldorado Springs Cemetery are: William F. 1843-1926 Lucy J 1848-1939 Thad 1848-1939 Opal 1898-1952 Malcolm Cemetery Louisa Jane 1842-1890 Caplinger Mills Cemetery Dunaway, Algenon S. 1895-1895 Dunaway, Howard K 1903-1918 Dunaway, Hattie O 1867-1958 Dunaway, Dr. Louis T. 1868-1955 Sorry, but I hope some of this helps. I still miss CO. But Tulsa is "OK" and growing on me. Linda Ledford Bacon

Hi Diana, Alder Cemetery is located in Jefferson Township, cedar County, MO. Or Sec.6, T. 34, T. 25. I thnk this last T. should be range. I wish I could give you better directions, but only looking at a Cemetery directory put out by the Cedar County Historical Society. The Hammons listed are: James G 1871-1954 John H. 1878-1965 Lonnie A. 1884-1962 Mary 1846-1929 Mary E. 1871-1951 Nellie 1882-1945 Roxie 1891-1932 R.W. "Wes" 1867-1950 William 1847-1886 Winifred 1935-1935 Hope this helps and someone can give you better directions! Linda Bacon Tulsa, OK