Dianne, I received your email with the Hartley family chart and I really appreciate you sending it. I have a puzzle that perhaps you or Mike Gilliland or someone else can solve for me. I keep seeing references that claim that Thomas Bentley Hopkins was the son of Solomon and Mary Hartley Hopkins. I haven't seen anyone site a source for this claim though. I have a problem, however, with my great-great-grandfather Thomas Bentley Hopkins being the child of Mary Hartley Hopkins. I have seen the 1850 Census for Polk County listing a Thomas B Hopkins as a child in the Solomon Hopkins household. I have also seen the 1850 Census for Cedar County listing a Thomas B Hopkins in the household with Mary Kennedy Hopkins (widow of Hugh S Hopkins) along with his brother Hugh and sister (whose name escapes me at the moment). [NOTE: Both boys named Thomas B Hopkins are the same age -- 10 years old.] The 1860 Census for Polk Co has Mary Hartley Hopkins, widow, without a son Thomas B Hopkins in the household. The 1860 Census for Cedar County has Mary Hopkins now married to Allen Surratt. In this household are Mary and her two sons Thomas and Hugh. The daughter had married by this time. So whose son is Thomas B. Hopkins? I have always wondered if he was possibly a nephew (or other relative) of Solomon Hopkins who happened to be visiting in Polk County on the day the Censustaker came along. The fact that Thomas Bentley Hopkins married three Simrell women in Cedar County and the Simrell land adjoined the Surratt land in Cedar County, seems to me to lend weight to the fact that he lived in Cedar County instead of Polk County where Mary Hartley Hopkins lived. What do you think? Nancy Floyd Mabie >From: "Dianne Erwin" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [MOCEDAR] Re: Benton Hopkins Family >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:24:23 -0500 > >Did you get the Hartley family chart? I'm not sure who I sent it to. > >Dianne > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of >[email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:01 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MOCEDAR] Re: Benton Hopkins Family > > >thank you for the answer. we have been searching high and low. anyone we >can >contact is great. please let me know more. thank you. charles goff > > >==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== >When the subject changes, please change the subject line. > >Contact the listowner at: [email protected] > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== >Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people. >Listowner: mailto:[email protected]?Subject=Cedar > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi Frank, Well, I do have a Thomas Benton Hopkins (b. 15 May 1841, d. 1904). He is the son of Solomon Hopkins (b. 13 Mar 1813, d. 20 Sep 1853) and Mary Hartley (b. 9 Oct 1813, d. 8 Aug 1896). The dates are a little off but we might be talking about the same person. Speaking of this I am trying to document some information and I do not know how much some of you who have this line will have. It has always been talked about in our family that William Hopkins (b. 1735) married Jane Bolling of the Bolling family that hails from England and has the US Air Force Base in Washington DC named after them. The question is that if any one has information from Orange Co. North Caroline that might shed some light on the early part of our family. William's father is James Hopkins (d. 1758 or 59 and hailed from Wales) and it is said that William had three children. Andrew (b. 1761) James Bolling Hopkins (b. 17 June 1765, d. 1849) John B Hopkins (b. 1770) James Bolling Hopkins married Peggy Woods (d. 1793 or 94). In 1781 he enlisted and served as a Private under Captain Parrish, Major Humphrey and Colonel Thomas Farmer in the NC Regiment. James married Elizabeth Billingsley around 1795 and had 8 children by this marriage. Anyway, I guess that I need to find a North Carolina list to put some of this information out to see if I can get some bites. If anyone has any sources for information I would appreciate it. Thanks all. Michael on 7/25/2001 8:00 PM, Frank Finck at [email protected] wrote: > > Mike. This wouldn't be Thomas Benton > Hopkins,b:1848,d:1920? >

Mike. This wouldn't be Thomas Benton Hopkins,b:1848,d:1920? From: Michael Gilliland To: [email protected] Sent: 7/24/01 7:58:29 PM Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Re: Benton Hopkins Family Hi, The Hopkins family that Thomas Benton Hopkins is my family line. I have a lot of info on that particular line including some of the Simrell family. Every year, in August, the Hopkins-Simrell reunion is held. I will have to check the date for this year. Is there any particular information that you are looking for. I have most of the family from today until the first Hopkins that came to the US from Wales in the 1700s. Maybe you could provide me some info as to your name and family so that I can see if I have you in our listings. Thomas Benton Hopkins married 3 Simrell's. The first was Martha Simrell. The 2nd was Nancy Anjeline Simrell (the sister of his first wife) and the 3rd was Susie (Sudie) Simrell who was the Sister-in-law to Nancy and Martha. Here is how my family falls under Thomas Benton Hopkins. Thomas Benton Hopkins - Nancy Anjeline Simrell James Henry Hopkins - Mary Estella Copeland Marion Herbert Bryson - Nancy Eula Hopkins Adrain William Clark - Toleta Margaret Bryson Charles Earl Gilliland - Nancy Marie Clark Michael Clark Gilliland - This one is me. Michael on 7/24/2001 7:01 PM, [email protected] at [email protected] wrote: My great-greatgrandfather was Benton Hopkins, married to Martha Simrell, lived in Cedar Co MO. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!! ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== Space for this list provided by Rootsweb.com ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --- Frank Finck --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

dear mr humphry i am wondering if the mr lannons tombstone you found on your land was that of my familytree .most of my lannons emigrated from co kilkenny ireland around that time.the christian names are also in our family. we have so many lannons in thomastown co kilkenny ireland .lots of love from ireland i wish i could afford land over here but unfortunately like the property its all gone through the roof

Did you get the Hartley family chart? I'm not sure who I sent it to. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOCEDAR] Re: Benton Hopkins Family thank you for the answer. we have been searching high and low. anyone we can contact is great. please let me know more. thank you. charles goff ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== When the subject changes, please change the subject line. Contact the listowner at: [email protected] ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

The 1870 Census Index for Jefferson Twp. in Cedar Co. has been added to the web site. Thanks to "Ginette VandenOever" <[email protected]> for this great addition. Kay Griffin Snow Cedar County, MOGenWeb, county coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocedar/index.htm

Well, it appears that I have been able to subscribe under my new email. Always seems to be a bit daunting a task....even thought I work in the computer field every day as an IT person the List Serves serves are sometimes a little awkward. Anyway, I am in the process of scanning and putting names with the faces of photos that I have. Many are from the family lines of Hopkins, Simrell, Bryson, Clark and others. As soon as am able to get some up I will put them on my personal website and anyone is free to download them. I will include some pertinent information such as Birth and Death dates, place of birth and so one. (Small disclaimer) Don't worry I won't be putting up any photos that I have been asked to not put on the web. I don't want to cause any trouble with families. I will make sure that the appropriate permissions have been given before doing so. Hopefully some of you will find this useful. After it is up and should you want a higher quality scan please feel free to ask. Thanks, Michael

As soon as I can unsubscribe and then re-subscribe I will be using a new email address. Currently I have been using the [email protected] but I have gone digital and my new one will be [email protected] Frustrating that they would not put my full name in the address. Anyway, that will be my new address. Thanks for the read. Michael

Hi Nancy, I would love to share information with you. I just checked my records and did not have Mary Matilda's husband and of course the rest of that family line. I am slowly becoming the individual that is keeping all of the family history and genealogy and I have found that the person that was taking care of it before tended to stop after a woman of the Hopkins family married. I am one who likes to have as much information as I can. I would be happy to share any other information with you. All of our records are still on paper. I recently purchased a computer program so that I can generate Gedcom files and make it easier for some to share. This program also allows me to include photos of individuals and I am just beginning to put names with the photos. In fact, Last night I was able to finally read some writing on the back of a photo that is of Anjeline Simrell who was one of Thomas' wives. If I remember correctly, this year will be the 65th year of the Hopkins-Simrell family reunion. Next year we will have a printout of the entire family line...at least what I have in my records. As far as we can tell the Hopkins family goes back to James Hopkins who died in Orange Co., North Carolina in 1758 or 59 but we have not been able to find any information on this or where he came from. The family has always stated the he came from Wales. Also, we are trying to document other children of James. Currently we only know of a William Hopkins and it is believed that there are others with names of Andrew, James and John. I have lots of information to share it will take a little bit as it is all on paper and not in a more accessible format. Thanks Michael on 7/24/2001 9:36 PM, Nancy Mabie at [email protected] wrote: > Thomas Benton Hopkins and Martha Simrell were my gggrandparents. > Their daughter Mary Matilda Hopkins and David Pyle Floyd were my > ggrandparents. > Lucian Floyd and Nora Alice West were my grandparents. > Harold Forest Floyd was my dad. > > I will be willing to share info that I have on this family. I have info > back to the parents of Thomas Benton Hopkins. > > Nancy Floyd Mabie

Thomas Benton Hopkins and Martha Simrell were my gggrandparents. Their daughter Mary Matilda Hopkins and David Pyle Floyd were my ggrandparents. Lucian Floyd and Nora Alice West were my grandparents. Harold Forest Floyd was my dad. I will be willing to share info that I have on this family. I have info back to the parents of Thomas Benton Hopkins. Nancy Floyd Mabie >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MOCEDAR] Re: Benton Hopkins Family >Date: 24 Jul 2001 19:00:31 -0600 > > > >thank you for the answer. we have been searching high and low. anyone we >can contact is great. please let me know more. thank you. charles goff > > >==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== >When the subject changes, please change the subject line. > >Contact the listowner at: [email protected] > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi, The Hopkins family that Thomas Benton Hopkins is my family line. I have a lot of info on that particular line including some of the Simrell family. Every year, in August, the Hopkins-Simrell reunion is held. I will have to check the date for this year. Is there any particular information that you are looking for. I have most of the family from today until the first Hopkins that came to the US from Wales in the 1700s. Maybe you could provide me some info as to your name and family so that I can see if I have you in our listings. Thomas Benton Hopkins married 3 Simrell's. The first was Martha Simrell. The 2nd was Nancy Anjeline Simrell (the sister of his first wife) and the 3rd was Susie (Sudie) Simrell who was the Sister-in-law to Nancy and Martha. Here is how my family falls under Thomas Benton Hopkins. Thomas Benton Hopkins - Nancy Anjeline Simrell James Henry Hopkins - Mary Estella Copeland Marion Herbert Bryson - Nancy Eula Hopkins Adrain William Clark - Toleta Margaret Bryson Charles Earl Gilliland - Nancy Marie Clark Michael Clark Gilliland - This one is me. Michael on 7/24/2001 7:01 PM, [email protected] at [email protected] wrote: > > > My great-greatgrandfather was Benton Hopkins, married to Martha Simrell, lived > in Cedar Co MO. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!

thank you for the answer. we have been searching high and low. anyone we can contact is great. please let me know more. thank you. charles goff

My great-greatgrandfather was Benton Hopkins, married to Martha Simrell, lived in Cedar Co MO. Any info would be greatly appreciated!!!

I do not have the children of John and Polly English Fanning. The date seems to be right that James P. Fanning may be the son of this couple. That is purely speculation on my part. If someone has the 1850 Census for Cane Hill, this family may be found on it. Pat

On Jacob Stiner's General Affidavit dated 22 July 1890 it states that James P. Fanning age 45 lived in Cane Hill and knew Jacob for 15 years. W.W. Pyle age 49 residing in Cane Hill knew Jacob for 20 years. I also show witness signatures of W.R. Montgomery and E.G. West. Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Re: PYLE/STEINER > One of the daughters of Thomas English, Mary Polly, married John Fanning > before Feb. 1847. they received land from Thomas at that time. I do not > know if he died or they separated. She later was married to a Caskey. I do > not know if this is the same Fanning who was a neighbor. I believe they may > have been in the Cane Hill Area. > Pat > > > ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== > Genealogy: A hay stack full of needles. It's the threads I need. > To UNSUBSCRIBE send to: > MOCEDAR-L (OR -D)[email protected] > Only one word, unsubscribe in the message area > Turn off your signature. > The email you subscribed with > will have to be used to unsubscribe > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Pat, Well, after doing some preliminary research...others of the VIVION's in my family believe that somehow these two families connect in some way or another. Now where THomas comes in is another subject. I will send info to you as I find it from them. Maybe we can all get together, share info and find some common ground. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOCEDAR] Re: BURIAL SITE OF THOMAS ENGLISH-Correction Mike, Thomas English/Inglish was the son of Joshua Inglish. The family had roots in VA, NC and moved into TN. About 1815 Thomas and his family came to MO. They are found on the Ray County Census for 1830. By 1840 they are in Cedar Co. area. The Inglish/English was interchangeable. My great grandmother, Martha Jane, is listed as Inglish on her marriage certificate. I think she continued to spell it with an I. I noticed all the papers from the documents I have from LA. the name is spelled with an E. I do not have any knowledge of the Vivion/Bush families, but there were several Inglishes/Englishes in Cole County. Pat ==== MOCEDAR Mailing List ==== Remember to add dates and places to you query. Listowner: mailto:[email protected]?Subject=Cedar ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

One of the daughters of Thomas English, Mary Polly, married John Fanning before Feb. 1847. they received land from Thomas at that time. I do not know if he died or they separated. She later was married to a Caskey. I do not know if this is the same Fanning who was a neighbor. I believe they may have been in the Cane Hill Area. Pat

Thank you so much for your response. Any information will be greatly appreciated

I am researching the Stiner/Steiner family in Cedar County. My ggrandfather Jacob Stiner filed an application for Civil War pension in Stockton showing residence as Cane Hill. One of his witnesses was a neighbor W.W. Pyle. I can only assume that your Pyles married Jacobs granddaughters. I can place two of his sons, Lloyd Sharpless Steiner married Mary Elizabeth Brutzman in Cedar Co abt 1882 and Norman A. Steiner married Columbia Redford in Cedar Co. in 1884. They would seem likely candidates to be the parents of the Steiner sisters that married Pyles. I will keep digging, and let me know what you come up with. Another neighbor was a Mr. Fanning.

Mike, Thomas English/Inglish was the son of Joshua Inglish. The family had roots in VA, NC and moved into TN. About 1815 Thomas and his family came to MO. They are found on the Ray County Census for 1830. By 1840 they are in Cedar Co. area. The Inglish/English was interchangeable. My great grandmother, Martha Jane, is listed as Inglish on her marriage certificate. I think she continued to spell it with an I. I noticed all the papers from the documents I have from LA. the name is spelled with an E. I do not have any knowledge of the Vivion/Bush families, but there were several Inglishes/Englishes in Cole County. Pat