This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Glenn Stormer Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2012 Message Board Post: David M. Wilson married Amanda S. Glenn on June 22, 1880 in Bu Co Mo. David married a second time on, Jan 28 1881 to, Frankie Stormer. Can someone please tell me who the parents of Amanda Glenn were and when she died?
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Brian; Thanks for your help and, especially, the photograph. As they say, it's worth a thousand words. That was my last hope for finding my grandmother unless they should happen to find her at Mt Olivet. She must be in one of the unmarked graves there. I pray she was not one of those found during excavation. There's little left to do now but get a headstone put in there (Olivet) in her memory.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ed: I went to where Calvary Cemetery was located (between 14th and 16th Streets along Garfield Avenue) in St. Joseph. There is no detectable remainder of the cemetery left. The entire hill has been dug out for fill dirt, with the exception of a small wooded lot on the 16th street corner. My son and I walked through there, and could not find anything that resembled a headstone in there, although they could be buried under all of the underbrush. I am attaching a picture of what the place looks like now.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Chapman Dittemore Young Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zJB.2ACE/1489.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your message. Wiley was a younger brother of my gtgtgrandfather, David T. Chapman, a pioneer settler of Daviess Co. MO, who settled west/north west of Pattonsburg. Subsequent to my 12/25/2001 posting, while I found Wiley & Nancy Chapman had no offspring, they did have money! Consequently, between 1880 & 1890, family members(including the Youngs) quickly named a number of sons Wiley!! I have his bio from "History of Buchanan Co", a copy of his will & some photos of Wiley & Nancy in their later years. Barry Chapman.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Thanks, Brian; I already have the NWGS boo on Calvary, but it doesn't shed any light on the disposition of graves after it was closed. All 3 of my relatives are listed, athough they have Emil Vegely as Armedus and Anatalie only as his wife. My grandmother is listed as Mrs. Edwin Harding. I would be very happy to have you look at the old cemetery. I would have done so myself when we came out last fall, but at the timeI did not know where Caroline was buried. I knew she died in CA, but didn't know if she had been buried there or sent back to St. Joe. Most of my family lived in Wathena and we spent most of our search there. We walked through the Catholic cemetery in Wathena with no luck. Your help is greatly appreciated. We got tons of help from a couple in Troy, KS named "Speedy" and Gail Stewart. I never cease to be amazed at how many people are willing to help a total stranger. Thanks again, Ed
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Brian; I already have the NWGS boo on Calvary, but it doesn't shed any light on the disposition of graves after it was closed. All 3 of my relatives are listed, athough they have Emil Vegely as Armedus and Anatalie only as his wife. My grandmother is listed as Mrs. Edwin Harding. I would be very happy to have you look at the old cemetery. I would have done so myself when we came out last fall, but at the timeI did not know where Caroline was buried. I knew she died in CA, but didn't know if she had been buried there or sent back to St. Joe. Most of my family lived in Wathena and we spent most of our search there. We walked through the Catholic cemetery in Wathena with no luck. Your help is greatly appreciated. We got tons of help from a couple in Troy, KS named "Speedy" and Gail Stewart. I never cease to be amazed at how many people are willing to help a total stranger. Thanks again, Ed
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Ed: I have found that the Northwest Genealogical Society has published a book of burials from Calvary Cemetery. The next time I use their library (may be a month or so) I could look up your info. I do not live far from where Calvary Cemetery was, so I can do some stomping around this weekend and see what is left there....I will let you know what I find. Brian
All the records from the Kansas City-St. Joseph Carholic Diocese are kept in Kansas City at the Chancery Office. Father Coleman is in charge of all the genealogy records. His email address is [email protected] He is very helpful and will get back to you promply. He has helped me a lot. You can also go there and look at records, microfilm etc. but you need to make an appointment with him so he will be sure and be there. He has records for all the Catholic Churches in St. Joseph. I don't know if he has records for Calvary Cemetery. That would be great. Hope this helps. Helen
I do not know the rules of a Catholic Cemetery and my question is: During the 1890s would a person have to *be* Catholic to be buried in a Catholic Cemetery -- either Calvary or Mt. Olivet? Virgene In a message dated 4/14/2004 9:14:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Yest Mt. Olivet is a Catholic Cemetery.
The NW MO Genealogy Society has published a book with information about people buried at Calvary Cemetery. The sent out requests from members to submit names and burial information of relatives they knew were buried there. They also did some extracting from death notices that were published in the local newspapers. It is not a complete list though. As far as the original records they do not exist anymore. Sharlene -----Original Message----- From: Phil Stevens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:26 PM To: Sharlene K. Miller; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOBUCHAN] RE: Calvary Cemetery, St. Joseph, MO Hello Sharlene an list , Any chance of every finding the list of people that were buried at Calvery and moved to Mt Olivet , Or is that a lost cause ?? , Maybe someone is working on a Reconstuction of the list ?? Possible ? , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharlene K. Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: [MOBUCHAN] RE: Calvary Cemetery, St. Joseph, MO > Hi -- Calvary Cemetery was the old Catholic Cemetery. All of the known > graves at Calvary Cemetery were moved to Mt. Olivet Cemetery. > > Sharlene Miller > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Calvary Cemetery, St. Joseph, MO > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for any information about the history of garves in Calvary. My > grandmother and both her parents were buried there and I can't find what > happened to any of them. They were supposedly moved to Mt. Olivet, but they > have no record. Same at Mt. Mora. Does anyone know if some of the graves > still exist at Calvary? Names are: Emil Vegely, Jan. 1877: Anatalie Poirier > Vegely, Mar. 1877: and Mrs. E. Harding (or Mrs. Edwin Harding or Caroline > Vegely Harding). > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== MOBUCHAN Mailing List ==== > MOBUCHAN Mailing List Administrator: Sharlene Miller > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >
Yest Mt. Olivet is a Catholic Cemetery. Sharlene -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:37 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Question re: Calvary Cemetery, St. Joseph, MO Sharlene, I have a Civil War ancestor, James Levi KENNEDY aka Levi KENNEDY, who was buried in Calvary Cemetery, in 1892. He was born in Hancock Co IN and I traced him via his CW file to St. Joseph, Buchanan Co., MO. Is it likely that James would have been Catholic to have been buried in a Catholic Cemetery. Also, is Mt. Olivet a Catholic Cemetery. I am trying to find more info on James' father, Thomas KENNEDY, who is my gg-grandfather and knowing the religious background may be a clue as to where I may further search for records. Thank you for any info you may provide Virgene in northwest Indiana In a message dated 4/13/2004 8:22:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi -- Calvary Cemetery was the old Catholic Cemetery. All of the known graves at Calvary Cemetery were moved to Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Sharlene Miller
Helen, Thanks for the info @ Mt. Calvary. Hard to believe a religious cemetery would be neglected & handled in this manner. I do not think our ancestors who were buried there would have the financial means for nice headstones, so leaves us guessing where their remains actually are located. Marie
God Bless that librarian! 'Bulldozed' out -- breaks my heart......Is/was there nothing sacred about the resting places of our loved ones? It is now over 100 years later, and we think we're so progressive and smart.. To think that sacrificing the resting places of our loved ones, was for the progress of the farmer (in many instances, who wanted more farm ground) and making way for buildings, roads, etc. AD NAUSEUM, I say..... Greed is an ugly thing... Regards, Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stevens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: [MOBUCHAN] Calvery Cem. revisited !! > Hello list , Phil here , Quoting from a lettter dated July 1999 from the > Libraian at " NWMGS " , St Joseph . the Catholic Cemetary was Destroyed > about 1895 , graves that were Identifed by family that were located were > moved to the ' new ' Cemetery " Mt Olivet " , Those that were unidentifable > were Bulldozed out . > the libraian said she worked on a book of names for several years > I assume that this book is at > ' Northwest Missouri Genealogical Society ' !! , Phil > > > > ==== MOBUCHAN Mailing List ==== > MOBUCHAN Mailing List Administrator: Sharlene Miller > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello list , Phil here , Quoting from a lettter dated July 1999 from the Libraian at " NWMGS " , St Joseph . the Catholic Cemetary was Destroyed about 1895 , graves that were Identifed by family that were located were moved to the ' new ' Cemetery " Mt Olivet " , Those that were unidentifable were Bulldozed out . the libraian said she worked on a book of names for several years I assume that this book is at ' Northwest Missouri Genealogical Society ' !! , Phil
I had family buried at Mt. Calvary cemetery in St. Joseph. I have lived here all my life. Mt. Calvary was owned by the Catholic Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph. I am not absolutely positive about this, but, as far as I know there are NO graves or headstones left at what was known as Mt. Calvary. The hill on which the cemetery stood has been removed. It is flat there now. They moved what graves and headstones they could. I don't know what they did with the dirt that was taken off that hill. Probably used it for landfill someplace. Like you said, the people at Mt. Olivet (yes, this is a Catholic cemetery) told me that they moved what they could find to Mt. Olivet. If there were headstones they were moved with the person buried there. If there were graves without headstones they were moved to Mt. Olivet and buried where they had room. I guess the Catholic Diocese neglected the cemetery and it was vandalized all the time, and was always overgrown with weeds etc. My husband lived near this cemetery as a child, and they cut through the cemetery on their way to school. He remembers that it was never in good condition. That's about all I can tell you. Hope this helps a little bit. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: MOBUCHAN-D Digest V04 #72
I am researching my husband's Lattner ancestors who were buried at Calvary Cemetery. Anyone who has any information about headstones/graves still at Calvary, I hope they will share with this list. I've not found much information on the Lattner's and we are very distressed at the possibility of learning about human bones in the fill dirt. I have a couple of questions, if anyone has answers: 1. Is the area that still has burials maintained? 2. Does a list exist naming the original burials? 3. Does a list exist naming those still buried? 4. Did the Catholic Church/Diacese own Calvary & did they sell & to whom? 5. Cemeteries aren't sold often, does anyone know why it was sold/burials moved? I'm researching a similiar situation in Texas where a cemetery was removed to make room for a highway. In this situation, burials were removed to several cemeteries & private cemeteries. Marie
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks, Brian; Your information corresponds with what I have already heard. The lady who operates Mt. Mora told me she thought there were some graves left at Calvary and they had been vandalized. Headstones were knocked over and broken and unidentifable. My relatives were supposed to have been moved to Mt Olivet. The people there have been very helpful, but have been unable to find any of them. They said they had some unmarked graves in one area. I have talked to them about erecting headstones in that area but only as a last resort. If you know of any broken headstones at Calvary that might be pieced together or readable, I would like to know. I will come form AL and look myself if I can get some clue. I am very distressed that my beautiful grandmother has been so neglected.
Sharlene, I have a Civil War ancestor, James Levi KENNEDY aka Levi KENNEDY, who was buried in Calvary Cemetery, in 1892. He was born in Hancock Co IN and I traced him via his CW file to St. Joseph, Buchanan Co., MO. Is it likely that James would have been Catholic to have been buried in a Catholic Cemetery. Also, is Mt. Olivet a Catholic Cemetery. I am trying to find more info on James' father, Thomas KENNEDY, who is my gg-grandfather and knowing the religious background may be a clue as to where I may further search for records. Thank you for any info you may provide Virgene in northwest Indiana In a message dated 4/13/2004 8:22:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi -- Calvary Cemetery was the old Catholic Cemetery. All of the known graves at Calvary Cemetery were moved to Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Sharlene Miller
Both of these cemeteries are still in good shape and people can still be buried at both of these cemeteries. There is an ongoing restoration project for Mt. Mora. Sharlene Miller -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Mt Mora Cemetery What are the conditions of Mt. Mora and King Hill Cemetery? Barbara Rector Hill
Hi -- Calvary Cemetery was the old Catholic Cemetery. All of the known graves at Calvary Cemetery were moved to Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Sharlene Miller -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Calvary Cemetery, St. Joseph, MO This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zJB.2ACE/2010 Message Board Post: Looking for any information about the history of garves in Calvary. My grandmother and both her parents were buried there and I can't find what happened to any of them. They were supposedly moved to Mt. Olivet, but they have no record. Same at Mt. Mora. Does anyone know if some of the graves still exist at Calvary? Names are: Emil Vegely, Jan. 1877: Anatalie Poirier Vegely, Mar. 1877: and Mrs. E. Harding (or Mrs. Edwin Harding or Caroline Vegely Harding). ______________________________