Posted on: Bates Co. Mo Obits Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/BatesObits?read=146 Surname: Mollenhour, Mullenhour ------------------------- Seek info on Eliza Mullenhour/Mollenhour, Charles & Pricilla Mollenhour and Lewis Mullenhour who were living in BATES CO., Mo in 1870. Eliza lived in Grand River Twp. Charles and Lewis lived in Mingo Twp. Charles and Lewis were sons's of Eliza. Eliza was married to Frederick Mollenhour and they were married in Ohio. Looking for any info such as death dates, etc on above. Have earlier info on above people to share. Thank you, Jo Ann

Posted on: Bates County Biographies Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/BatesBios?read=6 Surname: Driver ------------------------- My grandparents settled in Bates and St.Clair Cos. William Duvall Driver and wife Louisa. I am looking for an obit for William or any info at all. Thank You! Marjorie M. Matzen

Here is part of what I found on John Henderson. Thank heavens we had the county, as there were over 200 listed for Indiana. **** 1830 HENDERSON JOHN JR. Pickaway County OH 121 Darby Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1830 Federal Census Index OH560385429 1820 HENDERSON JOHN Pickaway County OH 188 Darby Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1820 Federal Census Index OHS2a577478 1830 HENDERSON JOHN Pickaway County OH 121 Darby Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1830 Federal Census Index OH560385338 1850 HENDERSON JOHN Pickaway County OH 057 Harrison Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS6a1419505 1850 HENDERSON JOHN Pickaway County OH 057 Harrison Township Federal Population Schedule OH 1850 Federal Census Index OHS9a4167868 There was no information for John Henderson in Bates Co. Mo. in 1900 or before. Patricia L. Hall Proud Sponsor+50 RootsWeb phhgene@aol.com

Looking for information on the family of John Henderson. He was born in PA, probably around 1834, married Margaret Thomas in Pickaway County, Ohio where they lived for many years. He later moved to Bates County, MO where he died in 1900. I believe that he may be the brother of my gg grandmother, Matilda ( Henderson) Gunnett, who was born in PA in 1826 and died in Pickaway County Ohio in 1893. I am trying to learn the names of John Henderson's parents and brothers and sisters. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Karen Conley

According to my information, Christopher Columbus BEARCE was born 13 Aug 1841 in CT. He married Rebecca Ellis (Elizabeth?) MELTON 28 Apr 1864 in Rocheport, MO. They lived in Scott Co, IL for a while, then moved to Rockville, Bates Co, MO. At least 6 of their children were born in Bates Co. Rebecca was born 11 Jun 1842 in Clinton, MO. It is believed that her family came from VA. Christopher died 23 Nov 1911 and Rebecca died 23 May 1926. They are buried in a cemetery near Appleton City, MO. I would like to share and compare information with anyone interested in these people. Thank. Larry Noah - larmil-1@att.net Listowner for Rootswebs lists: NCOrange-L, BrickChurchNC-L, BEARSE-L, NOAH-L and BELK-L

Posted on: Bates Co. Mo Obits Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/BatesObits?read=144 Surname: Everingham ------------------------- Seeking information about Joseph Everingham who is listed as living in Bates County,MO in the 1890 Missouri Census Index of Civil War Veterans and Their Widows,by Index Publishing Co.,Salt Lake City,1985.Would appreciate any help. Thanks! Grant and Marge Hayes of Duluth,MN

Posted on: Bates Co. Mo Obits Forum Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Mo/BatesObits?read=143 Surname: White ------------------------- Looking for any info in Bates Co. pertaining to Sallie White (maiden name Hughes), b. about 1839, (husband Geo. N. White, b. about 1838), died after 1910. Children: Warren, Manda, William, Walter (my g-grandfather, b. 1867), and no name infant listed on 1870 Census (family living in Dolan Township, Cass Co at that time). Reports of Walter's folks living near Marais des Cygnes River as late as the 1930's.

Sorry folks, don't mean to load you all down...but this is GenConnect business, so hopefully you will forgive me. Could the Bates County List Coordiator please contact me? Marti -- Have a great day from the Agan Family! agan@iland.net http://www.iland.net/~agan

I thought I would let you know that the new gateway that Rootsweb offers the non-query board information to be posted to the discussion lists. It also offers the option that I am able to preview the postings before they are posted, so no "spam queries" are posted to the board. Since these are non-query boards there are no questions allowed on them, but some of them are pretty informative. There are not many of these postings so I took the offered ability to post these for the lists perusal. I hope you enjoy them. Marti Agan -- Have a great day from the Agan Family! agan@iland.net http://www.iland.net/~agan

Well, no sooner do I send the information than I noticed an "oops": date of birth should be 20 June 1880 and NOT 24 June. Sorry! >HUDSONVILLE Township > >MITCHELL, Allen W. 53 IN > Martha A. 38 IA > Ida M. 7 MO > Thomas 3 MO > Minnie May 2 MO > Infant Female 2/30 MO (i.e., b. 24 June 1880)

While looking through film of the 1880 Bates County Census for leads on my HARDESTER / HARDISTER / ROOK line, I came across the following entry for a MITCHELL family. Although I am not researching this line, I couldn't let the following slip by. This was on page 24, dwelling/family 211/221, ED 163 and conducted on 22 June 1880. The film was not of the best quality, but following is what I could read: HUDSONVILLE Township MITCHELL, Allen W. 53 IN Martha A. 38 IA Ida M. 7 MO Thomas 3 MO Minnie May 2 MO Infant Female 2/30 MO (i.e., b. 24 June 1880) I don't recall seeing such near-exacting dates of birth before on a census record, but on the chance this may help someone, I thought that I would post it.

Hello all, I am new to this list and hope somebody out there can help. I am looking for information regarding William Wesley Morris. He was born approximately 1890, married Della Mae Chilton of Reynolds County in 1908. They had three children and at some point may have moved to Oklahoma. At around 1926, they divorced bitterly. William may have been of Indian descent. Thanks, Lucy in Mid St. Louis County, MO

What Do Those Initials Mean? Initials after your ancestor's names may provide useful information that you'd not expected. The following list includes initials you may come across when reading old wills or other documents. a.a.s. died in the year of his/her age (anno aetitis suae) (86 y/o died in year 86) d.s.p. died without issue (decessit sine prole legitima) d.s.p.l. died without legitimate issue (decessit sine prole mascula supesita) d.s.p.m.s. died without surviving male issue (decessit sine prole mascula supersita) d.s.p.s died without surviving issue (decessit sine prole supersita) d.unm died unmarried d.v.p. died in the lifetime of his father (decessit vita patris) d.v.m. died in the lifetime of his mother (decessit vita matris) Et al and others (et alia) Inst present month (instans) Liber book or volume Nepos grandson Nunc Nuncapative will, an oral will, written by a witness Ob he/she died (obit) Relict widow or widower (relicta/relictus) Sic so or thus, exact copy as written Testes witnesses Utl late (ultimo) Ux or vs wife (uxor) Viz namely (videlicet) -- Patricia Hines Hall ListAdministrator phhgene@aol.com

Thank you, Jackie. I agree. If one person is lost to the list because of something said, it is too many. That may be the one person holding the key to another persons life-time search. Judy Woods

Could we please agree to keep our political commentary to a minimum? Genealogy is a noble pursuit, and I applaud my fellow listers for whatever level of success they have achieved in their research, but if we get off-track and use the list for displaying our own political beliefs we run the risk of alienating members and possibly losing them as valuable research partners. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the author of the posting referenced above, I simply found that degree of political commentary to be quite distasteful. There are more appropriate forums for that type of discussion. Thank you. J. Watkins

I've had a lot of responses from my post about the 2000 Census and because it went out to multiple lists, replies went to me or the particular list it was read on and so, I'm sending out a summary of what has been generated. I wonder how many read this on multiple lists (i.e. how many people belong to the same lists I do??) First off, the range of responses went from very positive ("that was a great idea" - open thinkers? :-) to those of caution and doubt ("I don't know if they'll let you do that" - conformists, closed minded? :-) One said that I could get in serious trouble tampering with a legal document - puleeeze! That was so laughable, but hey, Janet Reno can come get me anytime (zeig hiel)! That’s my information! And the instructions only say to fill it out as completely as possible (Title 13), which I did. Question 10 clearly asks about heritage (I'm using pages 39 & 40 to more fully answer). It doesn’t say what you can’t do. I see both functions of the census with equal enthusiasim. The first function is accounting. Most people are concerned about this part, but I agree with it asking personal questions for the benefit of everybody, but do you really think the Government doesn't have or couldn't get that info by other means? – someone mentioned credit info. If the Government wanted to, they could do whatever they wanted (do I hear another zeig heil {in the same manner one would say amen}) This is just another fear like "big brother" or how the credit card and computer are tools of the devil and how we’re going to lose our privatcy. If the information is misused, then yes, we have a lot to fear about, and this administration gives credence to that, but then you can do something about that at the polls! Maybe the public will learn what is meant by the saying "there's a sucker born every minute" after the assualt on the Constitution, Easter weekend! It's all about leadership, which this nation is lacking. The most leadership I've seen since Desert Storm was Gov. Gary Johnson when he could be seen actively doing things during the Cerro Grande Fire (Los Alamos, NM) from helping to fight the fire to comforting the victims. This current President plays the public like Suckers! If you think that this Elian Gonzales thing is just reuniting a father with his son, then you had better wake up! The problem with this census is that they're going to find out that they need more things than they can allocate for. It's a noble purpose to know where they need a school, but it will be a bust because we can't build all the schools we need. The fear I do have is that because of this fact, they're going to have to make decisions on what schools they can build and I think they'll more than likely build in a well-to-do white community where their kids have no respect or know what sacrifice is, rather than build it in a less affluent community like Cuban Miami, where they know the meaning of freedom! Sorry for having one foot on the soapbox, but current affairs, politics and this census are intertwinded by nature. If there is a maillist for this census, then let us know, I haven’t seen one. If there is one, we need to move this thread there. After the accounting function is complete, there’s the genealogical function to consider. I had some responses from past enumerators and current ones, but none of them knew the answer to if the Bureau was going to microfilm this census or not. If not then my efforts are for not, or are they? Two new lines became evident while putting this info together, I now have a more concise two page list (outline) representing how I came to be. That’s, in itself valuable. I doubt that calling the Bureau will be profitable, because the answer will be the typical "no you can't do that" or "I don't know", whether you can or not. It is for these reasons you should do it anyway, because you never know. Someone also said that they would doubt that Kinkos would copy it onto the form. When I took to Kinko’s, they had no problem doing it (11x17). I just pointed out not to cover the bar codes. It cost $5.42 (client stock). That’s a $5 investment in the next 72 years for a time capsule or “Rosetta Stone”. It’s in the mail now. Where I work, we share our office space with the micrographics department. They have two camera machines with paper feeders that you find on a printer, fax or xerox. All they do is prep forms like legal documents to receipts on 81/2 x 11 sheets, load up the paper feeders and run them through the machines to be microfilmed. The paper forms are then packed into boxes and then stored. They'll stay in storage until their retention period is up and that's usuaully several years. The microfilm is kept indefinitely. The Government at all levels is retention happy and I can't see the Bureau, not microfilming the census. They spent a lot of money printing them out. When you take the staples out of the census form, you can see how each sheet can run through a scanner. I wasn’t as lucky, I had to manually scan all forty pages :-) The Government must realize the importance of microfilming the census for future generations?? This will be the last census to go from paper to microfilm anyway! The 2010 census will be done electronically. The Government should add a page or two into the census for “messages” to the future (sort of like an electronic time capsule). It can be anything you wish. It can be as profane or as profound as you want. Not everybody are genealogists :-) What gets me is that you hear reports from the Government on how people haven’t been returning the census. For one, there is no deadline on the form, therefore, as long as they come in, even by the end of the year, should be fine. Secondly, these reports started coming out prior to April 1st! Why?! The form states that this is to count all those persons living at that residence on April 1st. Most people probably didn’t look it over until after April 1st. You don’t know who’s living there until *after* the target date. Again, if there’s no maillist for this census, maybe someone should create one, if just to be able to pass on info?! If you’re interested in what I copied onto the form, goto http://www.nmia.com/~cwayne/genealogy/MyLine.doc (word97) for my outline. chris

Just thought I'd share this with everyone on all the [genealogy] lists I belong to, at least the ones I can remember :-) From what I can tell, the "long form" has 40 pages, 53 questions for the first person and 33 questions for persons 2 to 6. If you have this form, pages 39 and 40 are blank! I sat down and culled all my lines onto two pages. I can trace my my line back 18 generations, so on the first page, I have them listed, including birth, death, locations and marriage. The second page, I gathered all the "mother" lines w/ the same info. If you haven't guessed already, I'll take these two sheets to kinkos and have them xerox them onto the census. The idea being that when they microfilm the census and after 70 years, someone looking for me will find the Rosetta Stone of our line. Hopefully, if it's not too late or you haven't thought about doing this, maybe you really ought to give it some consideration!? Isn't this one of the lamentations of Genealogist - that the census doesn't give enough info... Plus, we make it work for us - our future, instead of just working for the government! chris

Send a message to agreen@iland.net to get info on how to join the Bates Co. Genealogical Society. Also to the person who sent me an email about this, check with the Society about the cemetery you spoke of. Patricia Hines Hall Proud Sponsor+ 50 of Roots Web phhgene@aol.com

Bates Co. Mo. USGENWEB page http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobates/batindex.htm Patricia Hines Hall Proud Sponsor+ 50 of Roots Web phhgene@aol.com

Hi I am looking for information about my grandfather Frank Williams. Frank was the son of William Williams and Nancy Christine Lamon. I am trying to find out who raised my grandfather Frank. His father died in 1873, 23 days before he was born. His mother remarried Charles Potts. Both Nancy and Charles died in 1880 leaving Jack, Joseph, Edward, Thomas Elmer, Frank Williams and Julia and Allen Potts as orphans. I know that Thomas Lamon raised Thomas But I have no information about who raised the rest of the Children. Nancy's father was Emanuel Lamon and she had several bothers and sisters who llived in the area. Any clues would be most appreciated. Joanne westernproperty@mindspring.com