HI Julie, I really know nothing about Abel except he come from NC. He was almost 30 yrs. older than my 3rd Gr.Grandmother Charity aka Charlotte Baze, Ross. It shows on the 1850 Barrry Co. Flatcreek Twp. that he was a neigbor to her as she was widowed on that census. On those census it showed he had 2 daughters and apparently was living with a lady younger than he was as she was head of household. So, that could have been a sister, a cousin or someone in relation to him. After he and Charity got married, she raised those 2 daughters even after Abel was murdered in 1864 by Charity's 2 nephews. The only thing I dont understand is this.......... Abel was also in the Civil War, I believe in the First ARk. Calvary Union Soldier as well as his two stepsons, who were John Alexander Ross, b. 1843 in Barry Co. and Hiram McDonald Ross, b. 1845. Hiram was killed in action in Cassville on Sept. 22, 1862 at age 17. Charity decided to file for a Mothers Dependant Pension from HIrams records, but never received it cause she couldnt prove the death of her first husband who was James Ross, the boys father. So, why didnt she file a claim on Abel Black after his death instead of her sons death. Was it because Abel didnt die in Action?? Altho...family lore says, that Abel was a southern sympathizer and did not like his stepsons, as he had said, he was going to get rid of those Ross boys. So, at this point I am lost and at a deadend on this one. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Debra Julie S <julieskc70@yahoo.com> wrote: I do not have a Abel Black in my database.. My Robert Black and Susannah Shaw were in Reynolds county Mo 1850, then 1860 settled in Shoal Creek Mo and the 1870 in Newton County where they lived until they died.. Robert info has stated b Va and then another place or two Tenn? Where is Abel from? Did he happen to go through Reynolds co Mo.. julie ----- Original Message ---- From: Debra McBride To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:29:14 PM Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] Barry County Roll Call Hi Julie, This is Debra again. I just sent you an email about the Walkers. After reading your other names, I see you also have a Black in your family searches. My 3rd Gr.Grandmother Charity aka Charlotte Jane Baze, Ross, that married James Ross, she married Abel Black in 1852 in Barry Co. Mo. They had 4 children who were, Elizabeth, Mary, Samuel, Maude Black. They lived at Flatcreek Twp. I knew what happened to Mary and Samuel, but havent a clue to whatever happend to Elizabeth. This could be some of your family line?? Debra Julie S wrote: Researching, Barry Newton McDonald Counties.. Julie Scharff julieskc70@yahoo.com Ferguson Rodgers Lowe Hamilton Lawson Doty Fly Woods Kelly Hutchinson Walker Erwin Black Austin Thompson Warren Tilton Lasswell Conley Thomas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com