Donna, Elijah Burton Utter, well-known probate judge for Barry County from about 1880s until his death in 1902, is a descendant of the Utter massacre folks through Thomas Utter, Sr. E.B. Utter brought a 40 wagon train from Indiana to Arkansas and then into Missouri around 1875. E.B. was married to Mary Jane Russell, daughter of Asa Russell of the Russells in Barry County and of which the Russell Cemetery is named after. E.B. Utter was a brother to my grt, grt-grandfather, David Jefferson Utter who came by wagon train in 1880 from Indiana and settled in McDonald County. I enjoyed hearing that your granddaughter told you the story of the massacre. I, too, include my grandchildren in my cemetery treks. They know what I am doing and why I am doing it. Someday they will be glad that I am preserving our family history. Karen Utter Jennings -----Original Message----- From: mobarry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mobarry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mobarry-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:00 AM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: MOBARRY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 236 The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (thedonnacooper@gmail.com) Today's Topics: 1. Re: The Utter-Van Ornum wagon train massacre in Idaho in 1860 (Donna Cooper) 2. Fw: Nancy Jane Hewlett/Andrew Jackson Withers of Lawrence Co MO (Donna Cooper) 3. Fisk Caskets (Donna Cooper) 4. Re: Fisk Caskets (Stan McKay) 5. coffin or casket? (Donna Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 07:36:21 -0500 From: Donna Cooper <thedonnacooper@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] The Utter-Van Ornum wagon train massacre in Idaho in 1860 To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAKyvwmBfNqFP_MHS9kzfHPuJU0NSKUP1GsU4aA-DY1LSn+LA2w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How is this Utter related to our Barry County Utters? Donna Cooper On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Karen Utter-Jennings <kutterjennings24@joplin.com> wrote: > Donna, > The story your granddaughter told you is about the Utter-Van Ornum > Massacre on the Oregon Trail in September, 1860 by the Snake River in > what is now southwestern Idaho. A party composed of 8 wagons with 44 > people was attacked by hostile Indians. Almost two months later, a > rescue party found 10 survivors clinging to life in shelters nearly > 100 miles from where the wagon train was attacked. The surviovors had resorted to canabalism to stay alive. > > > Elijah Palmer Utter and his family was one of the wagons travelling in > the wagon train. Elijah descends from my 9th great-grandfather, Thomas > Utter, Sr. ?There has been a book written about it and in Wild West > magazine, with much information found on the internet about the massacre. > > Karen Utter Jennings > > > ? ? ? > ?<CAKyvwmBAXH=bqDHHc5bukv_tGqwnnkQrQJWszdF_g_Z6Z15nTw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > List readers, yesterday on the phone my son told me that his wife and > sons were on a trip and so he asked his five year daughter where she > would like to go while they were gone. Get this - she said she wanted > to go on a bicycle ride to the cemetery near the house they just > bought. It is located in the historical district and they are going to moving there in a few days. > Here is the background story about that - Henry Ford's brother and > sister-in-law built the house and it was built in 1913. > > So - on the phone she told me about a person buried there that the > Indians had killed and about an entire family that died in the 1860's. > She said that there were a lot of old graves there dating back to the > 1860's and 1870's. She explained that some people died before Idaho > was a state and that some people died while traveling the Oregon > Trail. She explained how the stones looked and about the angles craved > on the markers of children and babies. She said that went I come to > visit her in Boise that she will take me there and show me all these things. > > It sounds to me like she had a history lesson while there. I dream and > hope that someday I can take her to a few of the Barry County > cemeteries and show her where her ancestors are buried - who knows > maybe even tell her some stories about them. > > It sounds like a genealogist was born yesterday, or - at least there > is one in the making, and so I had to share it with you. > > Donna Cooper > > >i--------------------------