Well, I have a little different slant on this subject. For each relative, I do every census year, not just the 190, and add that info to what's on the death certificate to try to determine which is correct. I have a "cousin" who was born in 1869. She was 11 in 1880 but in 1900, she was still single and suddenly her age was only 25, not 31. She remained "younger" all her life including her tombstone and death certificate. Kids don't always know when their parents were born either. All you can do is gather all the info you can and make an educated guess. Myself I think the first year one of our relatives is listed in any census can be fairly accurate. Only think that is good as gold is a birth certificate. I did the 1900 census for one of the townships in Barry Co. and found mistakes as you have mentioned but I typed the census info as I found it rather than try to guess whether the age or birth year was wrong. Happy Hunting! Judy Larry and/or Suzanne wrote: >Patricia & Wilma, > >You look at the date on the top of the census page as to when the >census was taken. That may clear up some dates for you. I have seen >some taken as late as Nov. of the year. > >Suzanne > >At 01:59 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote: > > >>Patricia, >> >>The questions asked about persons' age, differed in census years, and >>sometimes people would mis understand the question, so the ages and in the >>case of the 1900 census year birth month and year, it is not at all unusual >>to find errors. I will tell you that my personal belief is that censuses are >>valuable for locations of families on a certain date, and beyond that can be >>in error. Now, as to the death certificates, in most cases, although not all >> those were filed in close proximity to the death date, so the year is >>probably correct. The only exceptions I have found, is where the age of the >>person may be a "guesstimate" by the person giving the information. Even >>those can be in error on information, but I would tend to accept the year of >>death over and above a lot of the information contained on them. >> >>Wilma >> >>-------Original Message------- >> >>From: P.A. Topolski >>Date: 12/17/2007 1:18:07 PM >>To: mobarry@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [MOBARRY] birthdates >> >>Hi, I'm writing to ask if anyone besides me has encountered a problem >>with a one-year discrepancy between the birthdate listed on the 1900 >>census and a person's actual birthdate? For example, the census record >>says that a person was born August 15, 1882, but his death certificate >>says August 15, 1883. It's always that the birth month and day are >>correct but the year is off by exactly one year. Anybody else run into >>this situation? Patricia Topolski >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________________________ >>______ >>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >>Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >>Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is >>Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Patricia, The questions asked about persons' age, differed in census years, and sometimes people would mis understand the question, so the ages and in the case of the 1900 census year birth month and year, it is not at all unusual to find errors. I will tell you that my personal belief is that censuses are valuable for locations of families on a certain date, and beyond that can be in error. Now, as to the death certificates, in most cases, although not all those were filed in close proximity to the death date, so the year is probably correct. The only exceptions I have found, is where the age of the person may be a "guesstimate" by the person giving the information. Even those can be in error on information, but I would tend to accept the year of death over and above a lot of the information contained on them. Wilma -------Original Message------- From: P.A. Topolski Date: 12/17/2007 1:18:07 PM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBARRY] birthdates Hi, I'm writing to ask if anyone besides me has encountered a problem with a one-year discrepancy between the birthdate listed on the 1900 census and a person's actual birthdate? For example, the census record says that a person was born August 15, 1882, but his death certificate says August 15, 1883. It's always that the birth month and day are correct but the year is off by exactly one year. Anybody else run into this situation? Patricia Topolski _____________________________________________________________________________ ______ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna, I do hope that your name is at the top of the list of MO Heroes. You have done so much for Barry County. My husband, Charles Lemons, is the one with ancestors in Barry County but I am doing the genealogy research on his family. His grandparents, William Henry and Martha Anderson Weeks moved from Tennessee to Barry County where all but one of their children were born, including Charles' mother, Lela Maude Weeks (m. Lemons). So many people have helped me over the years and I just wanted to volunteer to give back a little to the researchers of Barry County, MO in return for all that have been of assistance to me over the years Audrey Lemons Canton Georgia. Donna Cooper wrote: > List Readers: MO has is setting a web site where coordinators can honor > their volunteers - that will be called something like "MO Heroes". I want to > submit a short little story about each of you who have helped with the web > site but I need your help to do this. > > If your name is on this list, please send me a note telling what projects > you worked on and what motived you and what you enjoyed about the work you > did. > > -------------------------------- > > I hated to make a list because I don't want to leave anyone out or spell > someone's name wrong. > > Here are a few who come to mind - > > Diana Cope, > Jay Trace, > Jack Fly, > Ted Roller, > Bill Landers, > Betty and Ralph Lamberson, > Fred and Neoma Sherman, > Phyllis Long, > Elmer Thorn, > Linda Stephens McCormick > Larry Edwards, > Frances Albert, > Wilma Fields, > Linda Garrett, > Mary Homesley, > Beverly Sweeney, > Alice Allen, > Darla Marbut, > Gerald Haddock, > Cheryl, > Don Warner, > Stefanie Forester, > Janet Marshall, > Cliff Bowlin, > Kathy Baker, > Nora Eden, > Laura DeLemmermore, > Jeanette Ponder, > Audrey Lemons, > Judy Vietri, > Richard Maxwell, > Penny Bailey, > Beverly Matthews, > Jay McCandless, > LoVella Moore, > Loretta Vinson > > And - I know that there probably are more that I don't have listed. > > If your name isn't on this list and you have volunteered with some project > or helped in some way, please let me know that I should add it. > > Donna Cooper > > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, I'm writing to ask if anyone besides me has encountered a problem with a one-year discrepancy between the birthdate listed on the 1900 census and a person's actual birthdate? For example, the census record says that a person was born August 15, 1882, but his death certificate says August 15, 1883. It's always that the birth month and day are correct but the year is off by exactly one year. Anybody else run into this situation? Patricia Topolski ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

I would like to recieve the quartely Table of Contents. Thank You. Loretta Vinson lobil@centurytel.net Hi Family-History Leads - Missouri Below are Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal for 2007. If you would like to receive regularly the quarterly Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, just reply. (No charge.) Below the Tables of Contents are links, yes, some of them of my doing. MISSOURI STATE GENEALOGICAL ASSOCIATION JOURNAL TABLES OF CONTENTS - 2007 President's Message - A Unique Opportunity 2 Editorial - Government benefits family historians. 3 William Nash Moore's Memories 4 Legal Change Of Names In Missouri Prior To 1868 7 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (1/4) 13 Burned To Death - Mrs. Mary Gibbons 17 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms 1893 18 Lafayette Wilcox Suicide 21 I Want It All 22 Wants To Compromise - Cummings 23 Grand Army Of The Republic, Post No. 240, Boonville, Mo. 24 An Old Bloody Feud - Afflick - Riley 27 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (1/4) 28 A Suspicious Death - Wm. Brown, 1897 30 Hilderbrand - The Desperado 31 Extracts, Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (1/4) 33 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (1/3) 38 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (1/4) 42 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (1/4) 44 Golden Wedding - Mr. & Mrs. Fritz Schriefer 49 Obituary - Colonel Ira H. Ellis 50 Tiogeeeee Or Not? Analyzing A Place Of Birth 51 Eight Deaths - Rouse, Henning, Woods, Morgan, Newbrough, Jones, Maupin, Thompson, 1898 52 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (1/4) 53 The Union Responds (1/3) 57 Father [Wm. J. Thomas] Kills His Children - 1899 59 Forbis family Bible 60 Extracts, Jeffersonian Republican, May 1843-Aug 1844 62 President's Message - Musings from Virginia 66 Editorial - Take The Broad View 67 Visiting An Ancestor's Place Of Birth Can Yield Surprising Information And Treasures 68 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (2/3) 72 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (2/4) 76 More Born In Tiogeeeee . . . Follow Up 80 Prisoners From Alton 82 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (2/4) 84 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (2/4) 89 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms, 1894 92 Some Released Prisoners (1862) 94 Death Of A. Eddleman [1821-1901] 95 Obituary - Abraham Eddleman 95 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo., 1867-1907 96 Suicide Of Frederick Rust 98 The Oft-Married Sarah 99 A Centenarian (Mrs. Elizabeth Owen) , 1875 101 Some Boone County Citizens [born before 1840] 102 Body Mangled By Hogs - Henry Fink, 1898 103 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader, 1887 (2/4) 104 Sam. Hilderbrand 111 Hilderbrand - Sheriff's Posse Fired Upon - Bowen's Horse Shot And Himself Wounded 112 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (2/4) 113 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (2/4) 116 Mrs. Ann Waters [1805-1905] Dead 119 Linn County, Missouri Letters Of Administration, Volume A (1840-1855) 120 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 127 President's Message - Taking Stock 130 Bringing Our 19th Century Immigrants To Life 131 Deed, New Madrid County, 1817 138 Genealogy Misconceptions 139 Obituaries - Carter, Edmonston, 1899 140 The Hilderbrand Hunt 141 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms, 1895 142 Ink's Battalion 144 Freight Train Collision [Harry Carter Dead] 145 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (3/3) 146 New Providence Baptist Church, Hough Station, Mississippi County, Mo. 150 Dry Fork Church Of Primitive Baptists, Lake Spring, Mo. 153 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (3/4) 156 Automatic Translation 159 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (3/4) 160 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (3/4) 164 Two Fishermen [Miller And Brooks] Drowned 168 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (3/4) 169 Deaths -Sep 1861 172 Rushing Around To Figure Sarah Out 173 Errata Re Vol. XXVII, No. 2 174 Chapman School, Benton County, Mo., 1890-1896 175 An Interesting Account (G.A.R., Hermitage, Mo.) 177 The Union Responds (3/3) 178 Two Men [Moroney And Donegan] Murdered, 1864 180 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (3/4) 181 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (3/4) 186 The Boone's Lick Settlement 190 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 192 Officers and Directors Inside Front Cover President's Message, Going Virtual to Survive 194 Battle At Springfield 195 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (4/4) 197 Elizabeth And Joseph Wood 202 Hilderbrand 206 Death Of Mrs. Mosby 208 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (4/4) 209 More Chasing The Ever-Changing Chaneys 213 Attended His Own Funeral And Lives 215 Missouri White Caps 215 The Reality Of Sarah's Realty 216 Fatal Accident In The Woods - Henson 217 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (4/4) 218 Sudden Death Of Sam Bounds 221 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms 1896 222 Sudden Death Of Jas. E. Dickey - 1898 225 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo. 1867-1907 226 One Cent Reward - Silvers 228 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (4/4) 229 Ernst Winter - Auguste Therese Sprenger Wedding 230 Aldrich Post 536, GAR, Polk County, Mo. 231 Officers Who Have Filed Oaths 232 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (4/4) 233 She (Mrs. Woodsworth) Came Here First In 1833 235 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (4/4) 236 Horror! Horror! (Spencer Family Murdered) 239 Officers, Missouri National Guard, 1890 240 Infant Baptisms, Brush Creek Presbyterian Church, Montgomery County 244 Is Genealogy Bunk? 245 Update re Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry 246 Book Reviews, by Angela McComas 247 Annual Indexes 249 You may enjoy the following web pages: Tables of Contents, and Surname Index, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, 1981-2006: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/contents.htm http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/JournalSurnameIndex.htm To subscribe (free) to the Missouri State Genealogical Association blog: http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/emailconfirm?k=FFfcwA7_Uh&i=4337596 (You or your group will probably want to psot notices here.) Missouri State Genealogical Association: http://www.mosga.org Major family-history page: http://www.genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ St. Louis 1860 City Directory: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm St. Louis Post-Dispatch death data, 1975 thru June 1977: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/P-D/PD75-77.htm Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Sole surviving founding officer, Missouri Chapter, Nature Conservancy, 1956 http://www.nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/missouri/ Latest completed project: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm Editor, since 1992, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal http://www.mosga.org Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Iwould like to recieve the quarterly Tables of Contents.Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Doerr" <bdoerr@msm.umr.edu> To: <mowright-l@rootsweb.com>; <mobarry-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: [MOBARRY] Family-History Leads - Missouri Hi Family-History Leads - Missouri Below are Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal for 2007. If you would like to receive regularly the quarterly Tables of Contents for the Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, just reply. (No charge.) Below the Tables of Contents are links, yes, some of them of my doing. MISSOURI STATE GENEALOGICAL ASSOCIATION JOURNAL TABLES OF CONTENTS - 2007 President's Message - A Unique Opportunity 2 Editorial - Government benefits family historians. 3 William Nash Moore's Memories 4 Legal Change Of Names In Missouri Prior To 1868 7 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (1/4) 13 Burned To Death - Mrs. Mary Gibbons 17 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms 1893 18 Lafayette Wilcox Suicide 21 I Want It All 22 Wants To Compromise - Cummings 23 Grand Army Of The Republic, Post No. 240, Boonville, Mo. 24 An Old Bloody Feud - Afflick - Riley 27 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (1/4) 28 A Suspicious Death - Wm. Brown, 1897 30 Hilderbrand - The Desperado 31 Extracts, Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (1/4) 33 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (1/3) 38 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (1/4) 42 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (1/4) 44 Golden Wedding - Mr. & Mrs. Fritz Schriefer 49 Obituary - Colonel Ira H. Ellis 50 Tiogeeeee Or Not? Analyzing A Place Of Birth 51 Eight Deaths - Rouse, Henning, Woods, Morgan, Newbrough, Jones, Maupin, Thompson, 1898 52 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (1/4) 53 The Union Responds (1/3) 57 Father [Wm. J. Thomas] Kills His Children - 1899 59 Forbis family Bible 60 Extracts, Jeffersonian Republican, May 1843-Aug 1844 62 President's Message - Musings from Virginia 66 Editorial - Take The Broad View 67 Visiting An Ancestor's Place Of Birth Can Yield Surprising Information And Treasures 68 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (2/3) 72 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (2/4) 76 More Born In Tiogeeeee . . . Follow Up 80 Prisoners From Alton 82 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (2/4) 84 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (2/4) 89 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church Washington, Franklin County, Missouri Births & Baptisms, 1894 92 Some Released Prisoners (1862) 94 Death Of A. Eddleman [1821-1901] 95 Obituary - Abraham Eddleman 95 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo., 1867-1907 96 Suicide Of Frederick Rust 98 The Oft-Married Sarah 99 A Centenarian (Mrs. Elizabeth Owen) , 1875 101 Some Boone County Citizens [born before 1840] 102 Body Mangled By Hogs - Henry Fink, 1898 103 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader, 1887 (2/4) 104 Sam. Hilderbrand 111 Hilderbrand - Sheriff's Posse Fired Upon - Bowen's Horse Shot And Himself Wounded 112 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (2/4) 113 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (2/4) 116 Mrs. Ann Waters [1805-1905] Dead 119 Linn County, Missouri Letters Of Administration, Volume A (1840-1855) 120 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 127 President's Message - Taking Stock 130 Bringing Our 19th Century Immigrants To Life 131 Deed, New Madrid County, 1817 138 Genealogy Misconceptions 139 Obituaries - Carter, Edmonston, 1899 140 The Hilderbrand Hunt 141 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms, 1895 142 Ink's Battalion 144 Freight Train Collision [Harry Carter Dead] 145 Births And Baptisms, Nativity B.V.M. Catholic Church, Bois Brulé/Belgique, Perry County, Missouri, 1897-1911 (3/3) 146 New Providence Baptist Church, Hough Station, Mississippi County, Mo. 150 Dry Fork Church Of Primitive Baptists, Lake Spring, Mo. 153 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (3/4) 156 Automatic Translation 159 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (3/4) 160 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (3/4) 164 Two Fishermen [Miller And Brooks] Drowned 168 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (3/4) 169 Deaths -Sep 1861 172 Rushing Around To Figure Sarah Out 173 Errata Re Vol. XXVII, No. 2 174 Chapman School, Benton County, Mo., 1890-1896 175 An Interesting Account (G.A.R., Hermitage, Mo.) 177 The Union Responds (3/3) 178 Two Men [Moroney And Donegan] Murdered, 1864 180 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (3/4) 181 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (3/4) 186 The Boone's Lick Settlement 190 Queries, Edited by Juanita Mallory 192 Officers and Directors Inside Front Cover President's Message, Going Virtual to Survive 194 Battle At Springfield 195 Missouri State News From The Craig Leader (4/4) 197 Elizabeth And Joseph Wood 202 Hilderbrand 206 Death Of Mrs. Mosby 208 Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry And Marriage (4/4) 209 More Chasing The Ever-Changing Chaneys 213 Attended His Own Funeral And Lives 215 Missouri White Caps 215 The Reality Of Sarah's Realty 216 Fatal Accident In The Woods - Henson 217 Democratic Standard, Fredericktown, Mo., Jun 1882 - 08 Aug 1885 (4/4) 218 Sudden Death Of Sam Bounds 221 St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church, Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, Births & Baptisms 1896 222 Sudden Death Of Jas. E. Dickey - 1898 225 Presbyterian Church, Price's Branch, Montgomery County, Mo. 1867-1907 226 One Cent Reward - Silvers 228 Births And Baptisms, Lippstadt Evangelical Church, Warren County, 1849-1863 (4/4) 229 Ernst Winter - Auguste Therese Sprenger Wedding 230 Aldrich Post 536, GAR, Polk County, Mo. 231 Officers Who Have Filed Oaths 232 Some Missouri Deaths, 1897, The Kansas City Journal (4/4) 233 She (Mrs. Woodsworth) Came Here First In 1833 235 Brookfield Gazette, Brookfield, Linn County, Mo., 1867-70 (4/4) 236 Horror! Horror! (Spencer Family Murdered) 239 Officers, Missouri National Guard, 1890 240 Infant Baptisms, Brush Creek Presbyterian Church, Montgomery County 244 Is Genealogy Bunk? 245 Update re Allied Families In Smith Jackson's Ancestry 246 Book Reviews, by Angela McComas 247 Annual Indexes 249 You may enjoy the following web pages: Tables of Contents, and Surname Index, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal, 1981-2006: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/contents.htm http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/JournalSurnameIndex.htm To subscribe (free) to the Missouri State Genealogical Association blog: http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/emailconfirm?k=FFfcwA7_Uh&i=4337596 (You or your group will probably want to psot notices here.) Missouri State Genealogical Association: http://www.mosga.org Major family-history page: http://www.genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ St. Louis 1860 City Directory: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm St. Louis Post-Dispatch death data, 1975 thru June 1977: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/P-D/PD75-77.htm Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Sole surviving founding officer, Missouri Chapter, Nature Conservancy, 1956 http://www.nature.org/wherewework/northamerica/states/missouri/ Latest completed project: http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/1860CyDir/1860CD.htm Editor, since 1992, Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal http://www.mosga.org Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. 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Good Evening: Concerning the featured photo - Blanche Carlin was born in 1888, Earl Frank Carlin was born Dec. 14, 1893 and Ruth Carlin was born Nov. 5, 1900 so that information might help to date the photo. Perhaps the child that Sherman is holding isn't Earl Franklin, because after some more study it was learned that Joseph's obit was published in 1893 and so he did died in 1893 as the family has recorded. The census and WW I draft records both date Earl's birth as 1893. I suggest that the child Sherman Carlin is holding is Blanche who was born Oct of 1888 and that this photo probably was taken in 1890 or so as Damien estimated. Donna Cooper

Dear list reader, I knew these people, and her name was Louise Harader she was the daughter of Mack and Rosa Harader of Wheaton. I went to school with all of Louise and LeRoy's children. We went to Oklahoma rural school and Wheaton later.. Betty Lamberson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Cooper" <saarisr@sbcglobal.net> To: <mobarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: [MOBARRY] marriage > List Readers: Beverly Matthews sent this marriage record. I don't really > have a place for one marriage so I thought I'd send it to the list. > > Barry County, Marriages: > Book Q, page 412: > > Leroy McCrackin, age 21, of Exeter married Dec. 29, 1936 Louise Haroles, > age > 21. > > Donna Cooper > > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 > 12:00 AM > >

Well, well. We have Dec.14, 1893 for Earl Carlin's birth date and also see news item below. This is really a problem. I wonder if there was a son born in between - and the dates are messed up for the children. ------------------------------------- Mr. and Mrs. Sherman Carlin are rejoicing over the arrival of a fine boy at their home on West Locus Street of this city. The little fellow arrived yesterday morning. Mother, father and baby doing well. Aurora Herald - Cassville Republican, Thursday, Weekly Paper, Dec 21, 1893 -------Original Message------- From: mobarry@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:17:16 AM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] Featured Photo List Readers: Our thanks to Damien who sent this a minute ago. I thought that you might like to see it since it seems to clear up the date on Joseph Northcutt. Donna --------------------------------- Purdy, MO - Obituary - Rev J. K. Northcutt Dead The Rev. J. K. Northcutt died at his home in Purdy, Wednesday, Jan 18, 1893, of paralysis of the throat, aged about 70 years. His remains were interred Friday in the Pierce City Cemetery, with Masonic honors attended by a large number of relatives and friends. He was born in Bourbon Co., Ky, in 1823, and came to Missouri in 1836, and settled in Boone County, MO. Where he was married to Miss Jemima Parks, who was born in Kentucky, to whom there has been nine children born . Before the war, he lived in Newton county, and during the war he went south and after hostilities ceased he returned to Washburn, this county and engaged in merchandising. He moved to Pierce City and lived there a number of years and then moved to Purdy, where he engaged in mercantile pursuits. He has been a minister of the gospel for thirty years. He has a large number of friends throughout the county, who will mourn his death. To his bereaved relatives we extend out sincere sympathies. -------Original Message------- From: mobarry@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:16:28 AM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBARRY] Featured Photo Good Morning: The featured photo for the coming week is one that was sent to us from Damien Aragon. It is a photo of the Joseph K. Ellis Northcutt family The photo date is in question, since the family has recorded that Joseph died in Jan 18, 1893. Notice in the photo that William Sherman Carlin is holding his son, Earl Frank Carlin, born Dec. 14, 1893, who appears to be about 12 to 18 months old or so, which might suggest that the photo date is about 1895. Perhaps his date has been recorded wrong and he was born in 1890 - instead of 1893? Do any of you know? I didn't look in the newspapers to see if there was a death notice listed for Joseph or a birth notice for Earl listed. But if any of you have these dates, would you please share those with us? All of you know that sometimes dates are engraved wrong on stones - and that 3's are sometimes read for 5's or 8's. So I was wondering if any of you might know what date Joseph Northcutt died and where he is buried. Jemima was buried in Pierce City, I think, or anyway that is what the newspapers have for her place of burial. This is a wonderful old photo and I am very thrilled that it has some of my Haddock relatives included in it, too - William Sherman Carlin and family. Sherman was a merchant in Purdy for several years. After his wife Mintie Ellis Northcutt died he married another relative of mine - but not a relative of his - Rilda Emeline Lane, daughter of Wilson and Eliza (Long) Lane. She was first married to William David Cowherd. Our thanks to Damien for sharing this wonderful old photo and my personal thanks, too, for sharing it with me. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/bryfams.htm Donna Cooper Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .. Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .

List Readers: Our thanks to Damien who sent this a minute ago. I thought that you might like to see it since it seems to clear up the date on Joseph Northcutt. Donna --------------------------------- Purdy, MO - Obituary - Rev J. K. Northcutt Dead The Rev. J. K. Northcutt died at his home in Purdy, Wednesday, Jan 18, 1893, of paralysis of the throat, aged about 70 years. His remains were interred Friday in the Pierce City Cemetery, with Masonic honors attended by a large number of relatives and friends. He was born in Bourbon Co., Ky, in 1823, and came to Missouri in 1836, and settled in Boone County, MO. Where he was married to Miss Jemima Parks, who was born in Kentucky, to whom there has been nine children born . Before the war, he lived in Newton county, and during the war he went south and after hostilities ceased he returned to Washburn, this county and engaged in merchandising. He moved to Pierce City and lived there a number of years and then moved to Purdy, where he engaged in mercantile pursuits. He has been a minister of the gospel for thirty years. He has a large number of friends throughout the county, who will mourn his death. To his bereaved relatives we extend out sincere sympathies. -------Original Message------- From: mobarry@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:16:28 AM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBARRY] Featured Photo Good Morning: The featured photo for the coming week is one that was sent to us from Damien Aragon. It is a photo of the Joseph K. Ellis Northcutt family The photo date is in question, since the family has recorded that Joseph died in Jan 18, 1893. Notice in the photo that William Sherman Carlin is holding his son, Earl Frank Carlin, born Dec. 14, 1893, who appears to be about 12 to 18 months old or so, which might suggest that the photo date is about 1895. Perhaps his date has been recorded wrong and he was born in 1890 - instead of 1893? Do any of you know? I didn't look in the newspapers to see if there was a death notice listed for Joseph or a birth notice for Earl listed. But if any of you have these dates, would you please share those with us? All of you know that sometimes dates are engraved wrong on stones - and that 3's are sometimes read for 5's or 8's. So I was wondering if any of you might know what date Joseph Northcutt died and where he is buried. Jemima was buried in Pierce City, I think, or anyway that is what the newspapers have for her place of burial. This is a wonderful old photo and I am very thrilled that it has some of my Haddock relatives included in it, too - William Sherman Carlin and family. Sherman was a merchant in Purdy for several years. After his wife Mintie Ellis Northcutt died he married another relative of mine - but not a relative of his - Rilda Emeline Lane, daughter of Wilson and Eliza (Long) Lane. She was first married to William David Cowherd. Our thanks to Damien for sharing this wonderful old photo and my personal thanks, too, for sharing it with me. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/bryfams.htm Donna Cooper Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .

List Readers: Beverly Matthews sent this marriage record. I don't really have a place for one marriage so I thought I'd send it to the list. Barry County, Marriages: Book Q, page 412: Leroy McCrackin, age 21, of Exeter married Dec. 29, 1936 Louise Haroles, age 21. Donna Cooper

List Readers: We have a lot of new things for the web site. I have been working on Monett these cold winter nights and have another 100 photos on the web for your viewing pleasure. I have started Folder 3 - only 19 more to go. [smile] A big thanks to Jay Trace for all these nice photos that add so much Barry County history to our files. Jay, we really appreciate all that you do. It means a lot to a lot of people. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm Our thanks to Darla Marbut who sent us a correction in Corinth. It was for Albert N. Stubblefield that I had listed as Arthur N. That correction has been made. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corinth/corinth.htm Darla Marbut sent us some newspaper items - and in among those was a new burial for Whittington Cemetery that I added to the pages. It was for Bertha Jones, nee Rowland. Her grandfather was Isaac Keith. She has been adding a few to Munsey Cemetery pages, too, that she has been finding in the newspapers. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/whittington/whittington.htm On the Waldensian pages, Gerald Haddock and Darla Marbut added some new things about the Waldensian group. It is Arnaud history and a very informative bit of data which gives the understanding of how they ended up in our county. Thanks to both of you for all that you do. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/arnaud.history.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian.htm Our thanks to Damien Aragon for the photos that I added the Joseph Northcutt and family photo and also one of Joseph Northcutt to Photo Book 3. The family photo is our featured photo for this week. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/phs3.2.htm On the Helpers Page - I added new photos for Betty and Ralph Lamberson, Wilma Fields, Alice Allen and Judy Vietri. If your name is listed and you want your photo listed, please drop me a note. I don't know if that is all of the new ones or not, but here is the link where you can take a look. If you have helped you can send me a page in Word or Note Pad and tell us about the projects that you have worked on. You might mention what you enjoyed about the projects and be sure and explain the kind of projects that you tackled. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm Try and stay warm and thanks for all that you do. Donna Cooper

Good Morning: The featured photo for the coming week is one that was sent to us from Damien Aragon. It is a photo of the Joseph K. Ellis Northcutt family The photo date is in question, since the family has recorded that Joseph died in Jan 18, 1893. Notice in the photo that William Sherman Carlin is holding his son, Earl Frank Carlin, born Dec. 14, 1893, who appears to be about 12 to 18 months old or so, which might suggest that the photo date is about 1895. Perhaps his date has been recorded wrong and he was born in 1890 - instead of 1893? Do any of you know? I didn't look in the newspapers to see if there was a death notice listed for Joseph or a birth notice for Earl listed. But if any of you have these dates, would you please share those with us? All of you know that sometimes dates are engraved wrong on stones - and that 3's are sometimes read for 5's or 8's. So I was wondering if any of you might know what date Joseph Northcutt died and where he is buried. Jemima was buried in Pierce City, I think, or anyway that is what the newspapers have for her place of burial. This is a wonderful old photo and I am very thrilled that it has some of my Haddock relatives included in it, too - William Sherman Carlin and family. Sherman was a merchant in Purdy for several years. After his wife Mintie Ellis Northcutt died he married another relative of mine - but not a relative of his - Rilda Emeline Lane, daughter of Wilson and Eliza (Long) Lane. She was first married to William David Cowherd. Our thanks to Damien for sharing this wonderful old photo and my personal thanks, too, for sharing it with me. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/bryfams.htm Donna Cooper

List Readers: The word for this day is Monett - IOOF. I have been posting and posting all day - and getting as much of Monett on the web as I can before the holidays. We now have over 1000 photos from Jay's work on the net and a little over 1500 posted. I have 25 folders - 24 more to do. I finished the biggest one today - so I feel like I am on my way home. Thanks, Jay, for this beautiful piece of work that you so generously shared with us. This work should help a lot of researchers. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm Our thanks to Ralph Lamberson who sent us an old photo of his grandparents - John Peter and Catherine (Courdin) Balmas. Also there was a post card of WWI soldiers and one of Alfred Balmas that I posted, too. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/balmas.john.p.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/balmas.group.htm A few new photos and other information came in today that I posted on the Helpers Award Page". If you want to add your photo or other information, just drop me a note. Have a good evening. Donna Cooper

List Readers: I have more listed for the "Helpers Award Page" and so I thought maybe you like to see how it is shaping up. Thanks to all who are sending written essays on the work you have done for the Barry web site. Those are fun to read and so I am posting those, too. Later on some of these will go on to the MO Coordinator for his "hero page". If you would like your photo added, please send me one. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm Also I have posted a photo that came in from Jay McCandless of the Owings, McCandless and Baker cousins. Thanks so much, Jay, for the photo. I have a couple of connections to this one - Baker and Ireland. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/cousins.owings.htm Ralph and Betty Lamberson sent us an early store post card photo of Chenoweth and Frazier in Wheaton. That is on the "Focus on the Wheaton" page Thanks for this wonderful old photo. I believe Ralph or Betty said that this is one that you will also find in the Wheaton book. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/wheaton/index.htm Also thanks to Alice Allen photos for the Wheaton photo of 1923 or 1924 ball team and also our thanks to Betty and Ralph Lamberson who named a couple of the players for us. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/schoolbook/schools/wheaton.team.htm And thanks, also to Gary Ball who sent us a correction for a Horton - Tash name on the Purdy pages and I posted that earlier today. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/purdy/purdy.htm Also today I posted some burial additions that Darla Marbut found in the old newspapers and death certificates to the Munsey pages. Those were for Crouch and Maloney. Thanks, Darla, for sending those. I wonder if it is possible for us to ever find out who all those unmarked graves belong to? http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/munsey/munsey.htm Bill Sanders updated Concord, Vineyard and Burton Cemeteries GPS listings, which I posted earlier today. Thanks so much, Bill, those numbers took me right into the spot. Don't you love Google Earth. It is so much fun to fly into the cemetery and see it from above. That is a free program - one I use often. Thanks for all you do. Donna Cooper

Good Afternoon: The helpers list has had a few revisions. I added some more names today. Please drop me a note if - Your name isn't correctly spelled. I don't have all your projects listed. I have marked your projects incorrectly. You want your photo included and I don't have one. Some of you have helped so much that it is really hard to remember all that you have done. I don't want to leave anyone out who has helped. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm Donna Cooper

I don't think I am prejudiced at all in feeling that the MoBarry website should receive the County of the Year award. Donna, your leadership and all the wonderful people who contribute so much to its success deserve our thanks and appreciation. Congratulations on an outstanding job! Celesta Eustice Portland, Oregon

List Readers: I am burning some midnight oil on this cold winter night and so here are some new items for you to view. Betty Lamberson has given us some of the names in the Wheaton team photo that Alice Allen posted. Also Betty has helped us with a date. It was probably taken around 1923 -1924. I am so happy that we are finding out who some of these people were. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/schoolbook/schools/wheaton.team.htm And Don Warner sent us an interesting news letter for the Purdy High School - 1932. Thanks to both Don and Betty for these new items. And on the Barry County Helpers page, I keep thinking of things that I've forgotten that should be posted on there. If you want to send a photo of yourself I will post it on the page so that people can click on your name and see your photo. Also most of these will probably end up on the Missouri Coordinator's Hero page and he indicated that he'd like photos to go with the text. If you send me a story about what you've done - please send it in Word or Note Pad. I have a few of those now and will be going through them as soon as I can several. If I have forgotten something or somebody - don't be surprised - those senior moments come and go. I don't want to leave anyone out or to miss things you've done. There are some of you who have done so much that I can't begin to follow your footsteps. I will be most happy to hear from you if you can jar my memory on anything. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm Donna Cooper

Jan, Ancestry.com is where I download my WW I Draft Registration cards. It is a subscription site. Someone else might know if there is a free sight for WW I Draft cards. These cards have proven very helpful in determining if I have the correct person on the census - especially when they are found in a different area from the rest of the family. Sheryl McNeely Shaw ----- Original Message ----- From: DANNIE D MILLER To: MOBARRY Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: [MOBARRY] WWI Draft Registration cards of Barry County citizens. I seemed to have forgotten where I downloaded the WWI draft registration cards? Does anyone remember where that site is? I obtained several but still have more to find. Thank you, Jan Miller Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna, I finally was able to spend some time researching what you have on the Barry Co site about the old mills. The Hutchens brothers, Wilson, Isaac and John F. owned the McDowell mill and in 1889 they bought the Pioneer mill. Their sister, Mary Jane, married John Robert Allen in 1881 and they lived in Pioneer. J.R. and Mary Jane's son Walter is my husband's father. Walter worked in the mill for his uncles. My husband Forest was born in Pioneer in 1938. He remembers the mill and remembers the day it burned. He was 7 years old and was told not to touch the window to the store across the street because it was hot. Of course he touched it anyway and burned his hand. Alice Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Cooper To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [MOBARRY] FEATURED PHOTO Good Morning: Our featured photo for the coming week is one of the J. R. Allen family, submitted by Barry County researcher Alice Allen. Maybe Alice will tell us more about the Allens and their connection to the Hutchens family. I suppose that most of you know they are the same Hutchens family group who had the mill in Pioneer. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/bryfams.htm Our thanks to Alice for all the wonderful old photos she shared with us. Earlier this week she sent us a disc with well over a hundred old photos on it. There were some that weren't named - of unknowns. Those give us a lot of Barry County research material to work on. As we plow through them and compare them to other old photos in books and in libraries we will uncover the secrets of the past and learn about our own heritage. Again, thanks, Alice, for all that you are doing for Barry County. We appreciate it so much! Donna Cooper Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM