Audrey, Please reconsider sending a photo, I think everyone is interested in putting a face to a name. Thanks Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Audrey Lemons" <alemons13@bellsouth.net> To: <mobarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] New > No problem, Donna. I did submit at least one Weeks photo that is on the > site but don't think anyone would be interested in a photo of me! > Merry Christmas. > Audrey > > Donna Cooper wrote: >> >> Sorry, Audrey. I could say it was a senior moment but the truth is that I >> had a list and all I had on it was your name. Glad you were on the watch. >> >> Here is Audrey's file. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/audrey.htm >> >> Donna >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: mobarry@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:22:00 PM >> To: mobarry@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] New >> >> Donna, >> I don't think I sent a photo of myself; perhaps someone else sent in a >> photo. (I was surprised when I read that!) >> Audrey >> >> Donna Cooper wrote: >> >>> List Readers: Today we have several new items. >>> >>> Thanks to Phyllis Long who sent us her file on the work she's done for >>> the >>> web site and I posted that on our "Helpers Award" page. Also Audrey >>> Lemons >>> sent us a nice photo of herself and it was also posted on that page, >>> too. >>> >>> If you have been a helper and want your photo added just mail me one and >>> I >>> ll post it for you. Also my thanks to those of you who have sent files >>> telling about your work that you have done for the web site. People are >>> telling me that they are really enjoy reading those. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm >>> >>> A big thanks to Joyce Sneel who posted a bushwhacker story. If you have >>> a >>> story about a bushwhacker death, please post it so that others can enjoy >>> knowning about it, too. >>> >>> Here is a link where you can post your stories. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bwsubcem11.htm >>> >>> Here is the bushwhacker story page. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bushwhacker/index.htm >>> >>> Our thanks to Gerald Haddock who caught a spelling mistake on the >>> Mermoud >>> family name on the Waldensian page and that has been repaired. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian-3.htm >>> >>> Thanks to Renee Schaeffer who sent some research notes on James Cook and >>> Sarah Elizabeth (Mayes) Cook for the Corsicana pages. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corsicana/corsicana.htm >>> >>> And thanks to Lee Lawson who sent us the name listing for the Phillip >>> >> Schell >> >>> photo that has Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell pictured. This is a very nice >>> discovery. Thanks so much, Lee. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm >>> >>> A big thanks to Damien Aragon who sent us a couple of very nice old >>> photos >>> that look like tin-types. They are photos of Isaac Cook Howsmon and Anna >>> Deal (Williams) Howsmon. Those are in photo book 3 in the first part of >>> >> the >> >>> book. Some folks will be very happy to see these. Thanks for sharing. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/phs-3.htm >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.anna.htm >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.isaac.htm >>> >>> Gail Hubeny caught a page that wasn't linked up properly - for Troy >>> Brock >>> >> on >> >>> the data index page. That has been repaired now so you can view it from >>> there now. >>> >>> We have over 50 new photos on the Monett Cemetery pages. That work is >>> >> moving >> >>> along - but seems slow. I have over 1200 from Jay's work posted and >>> about >>> 1700 all total posted. There are 24 folders and I am working on folder 4 >>> >> now >> >>> Most of the folders have about 100 photos in them but the first one I >>> did >>> had about 1000 so I'm glad to have that one posted. Jay really did some >>> >> good >> >>> work with these photos. This cemetery is like a giant jig saw puzzle - >>> because it has so many pieces. >>> >>> Thanks, Jay, for all you do. We appreciate it so much. >>> >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm >>> >>> Thanks to all of you for these nice items and for all that you do for >>> our >>> county and our web site. Your careful study of our early families and >>> research work will be remembered for generations to come. >>> >>> Donna Cooper >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is >>> Donna >>> >> Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >> MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >>> >> >> Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >> Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> . >> Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >> Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
No problem, Donna. I did submit at least one Weeks photo that is on the site but don't think anyone would be interested in a photo of me! Merry Christmas. Audrey Donna Cooper wrote: > > Sorry, Audrey. I could say it was a senior moment but the truth is that I > had a list and all I had on it was your name. Glad you were on the watch. > > Here is Audrey's file. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/audrey.htm > > Donna > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: mobarry@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:22:00 PM > To: mobarry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] New > > Donna, > I don't think I sent a photo of myself; perhaps someone else sent in a > photo. (I was surprised when I read that!) > Audrey > > Donna Cooper wrote: > >> List Readers: Today we have several new items. >> >> Thanks to Phyllis Long who sent us her file on the work she's done for the >> web site and I posted that on our "Helpers Award" page. Also Audrey Lemons >> sent us a nice photo of herself and it was also posted on that page, too. >> >> If you have been a helper and want your photo added just mail me one and I >> ll post it for you. Also my thanks to those of you who have sent files >> telling about your work that you have done for the web site. People are >> telling me that they are really enjoy reading those. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm >> >> A big thanks to Joyce Sneel who posted a bushwhacker story. If you have a >> story about a bushwhacker death, please post it so that others can enjoy >> knowning about it, too. >> >> Here is a link where you can post your stories. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bwsubcem11.htm >> >> Here is the bushwhacker story page. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bushwhacker/index.htm >> >> Our thanks to Gerald Haddock who caught a spelling mistake on the Mermoud >> family name on the Waldensian page and that has been repaired. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian-3.htm >> >> Thanks to Renee Schaeffer who sent some research notes on James Cook and >> Sarah Elizabeth (Mayes) Cook for the Corsicana pages. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corsicana/corsicana.htm >> >> And thanks to Lee Lawson who sent us the name listing for the Phillip >> > Schell > >> photo that has Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell pictured. This is a very nice >> discovery. Thanks so much, Lee. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm >> >> A big thanks to Damien Aragon who sent us a couple of very nice old photos >> that look like tin-types. They are photos of Isaac Cook Howsmon and Anna >> Deal (Williams) Howsmon. Those are in photo book 3 in the first part of >> > the > >> book. Some folks will be very happy to see these. Thanks for sharing. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/phs-3.htm >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.anna.htm >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.isaac.htm >> >> Gail Hubeny caught a page that wasn't linked up properly - for Troy Brock >> > on > >> the data index page. That has been repaired now so you can view it from >> there now. >> >> We have over 50 new photos on the Monett Cemetery pages. That work is >> > moving > >> along - but seems slow. I have over 1200 from Jay's work posted and about >> 1700 all total posted. There are 24 folders and I am working on folder 4 >> > now > >> Most of the folders have about 100 photos in them but the first one I did >> had about 1000 so I'm glad to have that one posted. Jay really did some >> > good > >> work with these photos. This cemetery is like a giant jig saw puzzle - >> because it has so many pieces. >> >> Thanks, Jay, for all you do. We appreciate it so much. >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm >> >> Thanks to all of you for these nice items and for all that you do for our >> county and our web site. Your careful study of our early families and >> research work will be remembered for generations to come. >> >> Donna Cooper >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >> > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > . > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Donna, I don't think I sent a photo of myself; perhaps someone else sent in a photo. (I was surprised when I read that!) Audrey Donna Cooper wrote: > List Readers: Today we have several new items. > > Thanks to Phyllis Long who sent us her file on the work she's done for the > web site and I posted that on our "Helpers Award" page. Also Audrey Lemons > sent us a nice photo of herself and it was also posted on that page, too. > > If you have been a helper and want your photo added just mail me one and I > ll post it for you. Also my thanks to those of you who have sent files > telling about your work that you have done for the web site. People are > telling me that they are really enjoy reading those. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm > > A big thanks to Joyce Sneel who posted a bushwhacker story. If you have a > story about a bushwhacker death, please post it so that others can enjoy > knowning about it, too. > > Here is a link where you can post your stories. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bwsubcem11.htm > > Here is the bushwhacker story page. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bushwhacker/index.htm > > Our thanks to Gerald Haddock who caught a spelling mistake on the Mermoud > family name on the Waldensian page and that has been repaired. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian-3.htm > > Thanks to Renee Schaeffer who sent some research notes on James Cook and > Sarah Elizabeth (Mayes) Cook for the Corsicana pages. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corsicana/corsicana.htm > > And thanks to Lee Lawson who sent us the name listing for the Phillip Schell > photo that has Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell pictured. This is a very nice > discovery. Thanks so much, Lee. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm > > A big thanks to Damien Aragon who sent us a couple of very nice old photos > that look like tin-types. They are photos of Isaac Cook Howsmon and Anna > Deal (Williams) Howsmon. Those are in photo book 3 in the first part of the > book. Some folks will be very happy to see these. Thanks for sharing. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/phs-3.htm > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.anna.htm > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.isaac.htm > > Gail Hubeny caught a page that wasn't linked up properly - for Troy Brock on > the data index page. That has been repaired now so you can view it from > there now. > > We have over 50 new photos on the Monett Cemetery pages. That work is moving > along - but seems slow. I have over 1200 from Jay's work posted and about > 1700 all total posted. There are 24 folders and I am working on folder 4 now > Most of the folders have about 100 photos in them but the first one I did > had about 1000 so I'm glad to have that one posted. Jay really did some good > work with these photos. This cemetery is like a giant jig saw puzzle - > because it has so many pieces. > > Thanks, Jay, for all you do. We appreciate it so much. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm > > Thanks to all of you for these nice items and for all that you do for our > county and our web site. Your careful study of our early families and > research work will be remembered for generations to come. > > Donna Cooper > > > > > > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Sorry, Audrey. I could say it was a senior moment but the truth is that I had a list and all I had on it was your name. Glad you were on the watch. Here is Audrey's file. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/audrey.htm Donna -------Original Message------- From: mobarry@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:22:00 PM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] New Donna, I don't think I sent a photo of myself; perhaps someone else sent in a photo. (I was surprised when I read that!) Audrey Donna Cooper wrote: > List Readers: Today we have several new items. > > Thanks to Phyllis Long who sent us her file on the work she's done for the > web site and I posted that on our "Helpers Award" page. Also Audrey Lemons > sent us a nice photo of herself and it was also posted on that page, too. > > If you have been a helper and want your photo added just mail me one and I > ll post it for you. Also my thanks to those of you who have sent files > telling about your work that you have done for the web site. People are > telling me that they are really enjoy reading those. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm > > A big thanks to Joyce Sneel who posted a bushwhacker story. If you have a > story about a bushwhacker death, please post it so that others can enjoy > knowning about it, too. > > Here is a link where you can post your stories. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bwsubcem11.htm > > Here is the bushwhacker story page. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bushwhacker/index.htm > > Our thanks to Gerald Haddock who caught a spelling mistake on the Mermoud > family name on the Waldensian page and that has been repaired. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian-3.htm > > Thanks to Renee Schaeffer who sent some research notes on James Cook and > Sarah Elizabeth (Mayes) Cook for the Corsicana pages. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corsicana/corsicana.htm > > And thanks to Lee Lawson who sent us the name listing for the Phillip Schell > photo that has Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell pictured. This is a very nice > discovery. Thanks so much, Lee. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm > > A big thanks to Damien Aragon who sent us a couple of very nice old photos > that look like tin-types. They are photos of Isaac Cook Howsmon and Anna > Deal (Williams) Howsmon. Those are in photo book 3 in the first part of the > book. Some folks will be very happy to see these. Thanks for sharing. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/phs-3.htm > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.anna.htm > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.isaac.htm > > Gail Hubeny caught a page that wasn't linked up properly - for Troy Brock on > the data index page. That has been repaired now so you can view it from > there now. > > We have over 50 new photos on the Monett Cemetery pages. That work is moving > along - but seems slow. I have over 1200 from Jay's work posted and about > 1700 all total posted. There are 24 folders and I am working on folder 4 now > Most of the folders have about 100 photos in them but the first one I did > had about 1000 so I'm glad to have that one posted. Jay really did some good > work with these photos. This cemetery is like a giant jig saw puzzle - > because it has so many pieces. > > Thanks, Jay, for all you do. We appreciate it so much. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm > > Thanks to all of you for these nice items and for all that you do for our > county and our web site. Your careful study of our early families and > research work will be remembered for generations to come. > > Donna Cooper > > > > > > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .
I have noticed Ellison families, and Bowman Families of Barry Co., are any of the Ellison's connected to the Taney Co. Ellison's , and are any of the Bowman Families connected to the Stone Co., Bowman families. Thank you for any response. Bonnie **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
List Readers: Today we have several new items. Thanks to Phyllis Long who sent us her file on the work she's done for the web site and I posted that on our "Helpers Award" page. Also Audrey Lemons sent us a nice photo of herself and it was also posted on that page, too. If you have been a helper and want your photo added just mail me one and I ll post it for you. Also my thanks to those of you who have sent files telling about your work that you have done for the web site. People are telling me that they are really enjoy reading those. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/oddsnends/helpers.htm A big thanks to Joyce Sneel who posted a bushwhacker story. If you have a story about a bushwhacker death, please post it so that others can enjoy knowning about it, too. Here is a link where you can post your stories. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bwsubcem11.htm Here is the bushwhacker story page. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/bushwhacker/index.htm Our thanks to Gerald Haddock who caught a spelling mistake on the Mermoud family name on the Waldensian page and that has been repaired. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/waldensian/waldensian-3.htm Thanks to Renee Schaeffer who sent some research notes on James Cook and Sarah Elizabeth (Mayes) Cook for the Corsicana pages. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/corsicana/corsicana.htm And thanks to Lee Lawson who sent us the name listing for the Phillip Schell photo that has Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell pictured. This is a very nice discovery. Thanks so much, Lee. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm A big thanks to Damien Aragon who sent us a couple of very nice old photos that look like tin-types. They are photos of Isaac Cook Howsmon and Anna Deal (Williams) Howsmon. Those are in photo book 3 in the first part of the book. Some folks will be very happy to see these. Thanks for sharing. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/phs-3.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.anna.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/howsmon.isaac.htm Gail Hubeny caught a page that wasn't linked up properly - for Troy Brock on the data index page. That has been repaired now so you can view it from there now. We have over 50 new photos on the Monett Cemetery pages. That work is moving along - but seems slow. I have over 1200 from Jay's work posted and about 1700 all total posted. There are 24 folders and I am working on folder 4 now Most of the folders have about 100 photos in them but the first one I did had about 1000 so I'm glad to have that one posted. Jay really did some good work with these photos. This cemetery is like a giant jig saw puzzle - because it has so many pieces. Thanks, Jay, for all you do. We appreciate it so much. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm Thanks to all of you for these nice items and for all that you do for our county and our web site. Your careful study of our early families and research work will be remembered for generations to come. Donna Cooper
Susan: All the papers that are on the Haddock site are also on the Barry Co. MO, web site. I moved them over so that people could search and compare with other data and by using the search engine feature. I recorded all information that was of genealogical nature - that I could read that is - not just personal interest stories. If there were 3 papers available then I probably only transcribed one paper. Usually I transcribed the Cassville one if there was one available because Cassville is the county seat and those papers have more news around the county than the Monett papers had. So, in other words, your story may be reported in one of the other papers that has been filmed but that wasn't transcribed. The papers that are available are not a comprehensive group, because there were some weeks that no paper at all was filmed. I think that those probably weren't filmed because they weren't available. These early papers for our county are on microfilm and can be borrowed from the MO Historical Society on an inter-library loan. So no matter where you live, your library can order them on a loan and you can go to the library and read them. If it were me - I would borrow a roll of film and read it to see if I could find the information about the train wreck. I do have copies of all the papers that I transcribed on file. Given a date I can look to see if I missed reading something or if there was a readable paper for that date The earliest funeral home records - Callaway Funeral Home - have been transcribed by the Lawrence Co. Historical Society. I don't know of any others that have survived time that go back that far. I did check the Callaway Funeral Home records and did not see your people listed. The centennial book of 1887 -1987 for Monett might have something listed but there is no Betterton names in the index. I don't have time to thumb through it for a train wreck photo, but maybe someone who has a copy will do that for you. I do have a "maybe" clue for you. Somewhere I saw a post card of a train wreck that happened in the Monett area - early in the 1900's but I don't remember the date and don't know where I saw the card. Maybe some of our readers will know about the card or have one that they could share with us - and fill in those blanks so you can see if this is a good clue or not. There is a notice that Mrs. Ed Betterton died in 1901 who lived at Marshall Hill. It is in the May 14, 1901 Monett Times paper. It does not mention a train wreck. As I remember 1901 was a year that few papers were avaialbe to read and many of the Monett ones were missing. And some were just plain not readable. So as I remember going through what I had available with a fine tooth comb. I did not have papers to read from Feb. 28 to Mar. 14 of that year of the Monett Times. I don't remember if there were other papers filmed for that time period or not. But if so it might pay to see if you can get the film. You can find that out by talking to the MO Historical Society. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/data/obits/b/bettertoned1.htm Hope this helps. Donna Cooper -------Original Message------- From: mobarry@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:21:00 AM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOBARRY] Barry County Ancestor Query I am a member of the crowd of silent readers that are in awe of all the remarkable work that has been done by this group on Barry County researchers. Without you and your contributions my research would be incredibly stymied. Donna, in your signature line you ask about information regarding Barry County ancestors. My Barry County ancestors include the following surnames: Betterton, Pannell, Whittington, and Zinn. These families lived in Barry County starting around 1850. A majority of them left around 1910. My great-great grandparents were George Edward Betterton and Nancy Angelina (Zinn) Betterton. From what I can determine, this couple died young and left two orphaned daughters; Viva and Myrtle. I can not document either of their deaths. I have a lead on information that George Edward Betterton died between 4 May 1898 and 7 Jun 1899 in a train wreck. Is there any information about this train wreck available? I would think something like this would have been written about in the newspapers. The Haddock Family website has done a fabulous job of transcribing personal interests stories in newspapers during this time and nothing is found. I would love to hear from anyone connected to these families. I would also be interested in information that could possibly help me document the train wreck that killed George Edward Betterton. Susan Faulkner denmother4@hotmail.com Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .
In a message dated 12/19/2007 11:19:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, Roulx@aol.com writes: Where is Marshall Hill? Is there It could be Mars Hill instead of Marshall Hill. Mars Hill is north of Scholten and also south west of Crane, MO. Toni **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
In a message dated 12/19/2007 5:27:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, denmother4@hotmail.com writes: Where is Marshall Hill? Is there I would look at the Monett funeral homes. I'm sure you would find the information there. One was Calloway. Patricia **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
In a message dated 12/19/2007 5:27:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, denmother4@hotmail.com writes: Where is Marshall Hill? Is there I grew up in Monett from 5th grade though high school. I don't think Marshall Hill was a real town...it was a part of Monett, but separated from the rest of the town by the business area and the railroad. It actually was a hill, too. I don't recall that there was any cemetery there. Patricia **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
Marshall Hill is a part of Monett, MO, on the south side. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Faulkner" <denmother4@hotmail.com> To: <mobarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: [MOBARRY] Marshall Hill >I truly appreciate the responses to my last question. The responses did > provide an eye opener, even if I didn't find exactly what I was looking > for. > > > > Bill sent me 1900 Census information for the George Edward Betterton > family > living in Monett. When I first saw that I thought, "Yeah. I already had > that > in my database. I wonder why he sent it." Then I looked at it again and > that > is when it donned on me that George Edward Betterton could not have died > in > 1898 if he was listed in the 1900 Census. Isn't it amazing how we > sometimes > don't see those pieces of information that are right in front of us? > Thanks > so much Bill. > > > > Here is the only lead I have on Nancy (Zinn) Betterton's death. From the > Jasper County, Missouri USGenWeb site at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~haddockfamily/barryfamilies7.htm > extracted from Monett Times, Barry County, MO, Weekly Paper, Mar 14, 1901 > "Mrs. Ed Betterton died at her home on Marshall Hill yesterday." > > > > Where is Marshall Hill? Is there a cemetery close to this area? Where can > I > read information about this community? Is there a possibility that Nancy > (Zinn) Betterton could have been cremated? Was there a funeral home in > Marshall Hill, or close by, that would still have records? > > > > Thanks again and again. > > > > ~Susan > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
I truly appreciate the responses to my last question. The responses did provide an eye opener, even if I didn't find exactly what I was looking for. Bill sent me 1900 Census information for the George Edward Betterton family living in Monett. When I first saw that I thought, "Yeah. I already had that in my database. I wonder why he sent it." Then I looked at it again and that is when it donned on me that George Edward Betterton could not have died in 1898 if he was listed in the 1900 Census. Isn't it amazing how we sometimes don't see those pieces of information that are right in front of us? Thanks so much Bill. Here is the only lead I have on Nancy (Zinn) Betterton's death. From the Jasper County, Missouri USGenWeb site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~haddockfamily/barryfamilies7.htm extracted from Monett Times, Barry County, MO, Weekly Paper, Mar 14, 1901 "Mrs. Ed Betterton died at her home on Marshall Hill yesterday." Where is Marshall Hill? Is there a cemetery close to this area? Where can I read information about this community? Is there a possibility that Nancy (Zinn) Betterton could have been cremated? Was there a funeral home in Marshall Hill, or close by, that would still have records? Thanks again and again. ~Susan
Susan- Check the 1900 Monett Township Census at: _http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/1900census/1900monett2.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/1900census/1900monett2.htm) Household 446 page 182a Edward Bennenton b Oct 1863 is listed as a farmer, owning his fram Nancy Aug 1869 Mirtle Aug 1899 Viva May 1895 I'm interested in the Victor Monroe Pannell family as my ancestor married his widow, Barsheba. Also interested in the Zinn family My database shows Nancy's death in 1901, But I have not followed up on the source, a distant cousin. I did not find their burials in Barry or the Monett Tombstone Book. A search of the surname on the Barry County Page may prove helpful.. Good luck with your search. Contact me if you want more on Pannell. Bill **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Faulkner" <denmother4@hotmail.com> To: <mobarry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: [MOBARRY] Barry County Ancestor Query I don't know if this will help. There was a William P. Betterton enlisted in Company G, 15th Missouri Volunteer Cavalry Regiment on 11/6/1863 at Mount Vernon, MO. Ira >I am a member of the crowd of silent readers that are in awe of all the > remarkable work that has been done by this group on Barry County > researchers. Without you and your contributions my research would be > incredibly stymied. > > > > Donna, in your signature line you ask about information regarding Barry > County ancestors. My Barry County ancestors include the following > surnames: > Betterton, Pannell, Whittington, and Zinn. These families lived in Barry > County starting around 1850. A majority of them left around 1910. > > > > My great-great grandparents were George Edward Betterton and Nancy > Angelina > (Zinn) Betterton. From what I can determine, this couple died young and > left > two orphaned daughters; Viva and Myrtle. > > > > I can not document either of their deaths. I have a lead on information > that > George Edward Betterton died between 4 May 1898 and 7 Jun 1899 in a train > wreck. Is there any information about this train wreck available? I would > think something like this would have been written about in the newspapers. > The Haddock Family website has done a fabulous job of transcribing > personal > interests stories in newspapers during this time and nothing is found. > > > > I would love to hear from anyone connected to these families. I would also > be interested in information that could possibly help me document the > train > wreck that killed George Edward Betterton. > > > > Susan Faulkner > > denmother4@hotmail.com > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna > Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am a member of the crowd of silent readers that are in awe of all the remarkable work that has been done by this group on Barry County researchers. Without you and your contributions my research would be incredibly stymied. Donna, in your signature line you ask about information regarding Barry County ancestors. My Barry County ancestors include the following surnames: Betterton, Pannell, Whittington, and Zinn. These families lived in Barry County starting around 1850. A majority of them left around 1910. My great-great grandparents were George Edward Betterton and Nancy Angelina (Zinn) Betterton. From what I can determine, this couple died young and left two orphaned daughters; Viva and Myrtle. I can not document either of their deaths. I have a lead on information that George Edward Betterton died between 4 May 1898 and 7 Jun 1899 in a train wreck. Is there any information about this train wreck available? I would think something like this would have been written about in the newspapers. The Haddock Family website has done a fabulous job of transcribing personal interests stories in newspapers during this time and nothing is found. I would love to hear from anyone connected to these families. I would also be interested in information that could possibly help me document the train wreck that killed George Edward Betterton. Susan Faulkner denmother4@hotmail.com
Thank you for the information. Suzanne At 05:16 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote: >Dear Suzanne, > >If the census enumerator is properly following directions, then >the date the census was taken is not used in the age >calculations. > >The date the enumerator is instructed to use is the census day. >In the case of the 1900 census the census day is 1 Jun 1900. > >Sincerely, > >Cliff > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: mobarry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mobarry- > >bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry and/or Suzanne > > > >You look at the date on the top of the census page as to when >the > >census was taken. That may clear up some dates for you. I have >seen > >some taken as late as Nov. of the year. > > > >Suzanne > > > >Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is >Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Good Evening: We have a couple of new family photos and about 50 new cemetery photos on the IOOF pages of Monett. A big thanks for the photo of the Henry and Elizabeth (Yocum) Schell family that was submitted by Lee Lawson. With the help of Gayle Foster they have a photo that compares to one of the tin-type photos that David Funk sent us a few weeks ago. I posted those tin-types from David in the mystery photos and that is where Lee found it. The new photo he submitted is in photo book 3 under the name of Schell. The tin-type is on the same page so you can compare the two. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/schell.fam.1.htm Our thanks to Damien Aragon who submitted a nice photo of Orrie Effie (Haddock) Northcutt. She was a daughter of Joseph Franklin and Josephine (Berry) Haddock. I had never seen a photo of her and so I was very glad to see this one come across my desk. My personal thanks to Damien for sharing this photo with us. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/photos/photo-3/nothcutt.orrie.htm I added 50 new photos to Monett IOOF today. This cemetery was done by Jay Trace back in the summer. I am trying to post a few of them everyday. This file is going to be a great asset to our web site. I know that many of you will find relatives mixed in and about as you stroll through the pages. Thanks so much, Jay, for all you do. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/cemetery/monett/monett.htm Donna Cooper
I will attempt to clarify my answer, based on years of studying censuses from all over the U. S., as well as abstracting many for Stone Co. Mo , a few years ago. A transcription or abstract must be "as written"! Each census year asked different questions as to age, birthdate, etc. There were many reasons that the information contained could be in error: 1. Who answered the questions? Was it the head of household, a spouse, child hired hand, neighbor,etc. ? 2. Was the question asked properly by the census taker? i.e. One year the question was how old were you your last birthday? This could be misunderstood easily, partly depending on the way the question was asked, and partly dependent on the "accent" or "dialect" of the questioner and responder. This is more apparent in earlier censuses and where immigrant settlements were. A "Swedish" immigrant may " hear" it differently than the German" immigrant questioner. This also applies to spellings of names, as one would ordinarily spell according to their main language rules. One must also remember that more people were illiterate as to the English language ( and even their own mother tongue) in earlier times. Most censuses can vary as much as three or more years on the actual birth year---sometimes more. The 1900 Census is the first U. S. Census that contains month and year of birth. I have noticed, much as Patricia did, that there seem to be a lot that are off by an exact year. This goes back to how the question was asked, and how the repondent understood it. As said before, a death certificate may also be in error, but usually ( the ones I have seen and have) there is either a wrong birthdate and an age at death. The age at death, if it contains years, months, and days, can usually give a different birthdate than the one stated on the d.c.( if there is any of the forgoing information provided). Because a death certificate (1910 and after in MO. ) is usually signed and sent in by an attending physician or funeral director, the date of death is usually correct. One must gather as many documents as one can, and in most cases use the preponderance of the evidence to come to a conclusion. Some may remember a discussion on this list concerning a tombstone, obituary, and death certificate that all were somewhat different on a death date. The obit and death certificate were in agreement, but the tombstone is completely different. Because two of the three documents agreed, those were the dates I went with. One site that may help you in understanding the questions asked each census year, is the following: http://www.censusfinder.com/census-questions.htm Wilma -------Original Message------- From: Judy Vietri Date: 12/17/2007 5:00:32 PM To: mobarry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MOBARRY] birthdates Well, I have a little different slant on this subject. For each relative, I do every census year, not just the 190, and add that info to what's on the death certificate to try to determine which is correct. I have a "cousin" who was born in 1869. She was 11 in 1880 but in 1900, she was still single and suddenly her age was only 25, not 31. She remained "younger" all her life including her tombstone and death certificate. Kids don't always know when their parents were born either. All you can do is gather all the info you can and make an educated guess. Myself I think the first year one of our relatives is listed in any census can be fairly accurate. Only think that is good as gold is a birth certificate. I did the 1900 census for one of the townships in Barry Co. and found mistakes as you have mentioned but I typed the census info as I found it rather than try to guess whether the age or birth year was wrong. Happy Hunting! Judy Larry and/or Suzanne wrote: >Patricia & Wilma, > >You look at the date on the top of the census page as to when the >census was taken. That may clear up some dates for you. I have seen >some taken as late as Nov. of the year. > >Suzanne > >At 01:59 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote: > > >>Patricia, >> >>The questions asked about persons' age, differed in census years, and >>sometimes people would mis understand the question, so the ages and in the >>case of the 1900 census year birth month and year, it is not at all unusual >>to find errors. I will tell you that my personal belief is that censuses are >>valuable for locations of families on a certain date, and beyond that can be >>in error. Now, as to the death certificates, in most cases, although not all >> those were filed in close proximity to the death date, so the year is >>probably correct. The only exceptions I have found, is where the age of the >>person may be a "guesstimate" by the person giving the information. Even >>those can be in error on information, but I would tend to accept the year of >>death over and above a lot of the information contained on them. >> >>Wilma >> >>-------Original Message------- >> >>From: P.A. Topolski >>Date: 12/17/2007 1:18:07 PM >>To: mobarry@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [MOBARRY] birthdates >> >>Hi, I'm writing to ask if anyone besides me has encountered a problem >>with a one-year discrepancy between the birthdate listed on the 1900 >>census and a person's actual birthdate? For example, the census record >>says that a person was born August 15, 1882, but his death certificate >>says August 15, 1883. It's always that the birth month and day are >>correct but the year is off by exactly one year. Anybody else run into >>this situation? Patricia Topolski >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ _ >>______ >>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >>Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >>Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >>Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is >>Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Patricia & Wilma, You look at the date on the top of the census page as to when the census was taken. That may clear up some dates for you. I have seen some taken as late as Nov. of the year. Suzanne At 01:59 PM 12/17/2007, you wrote: >Patricia, > >The questions asked about persons' age, differed in census years, and >sometimes people would mis understand the question, so the ages and in the >case of the 1900 census year birth month and year, it is not at all unusual >to find errors. I will tell you that my personal belief is that censuses are >valuable for locations of families on a certain date, and beyond that can be >in error. Now, as to the death certificates, in most cases, although not all > those were filed in close proximity to the death date, so the year is >probably correct. The only exceptions I have found, is where the age of the >person may be a "guesstimate" by the person giving the information. Even >those can be in error on information, but I would tend to accept the year of >death over and above a lot of the information contained on them. > >Wilma > >-------Original Message------- > >From: P.A. Topolski >Date: 12/17/2007 1:18:07 PM >To: mobarry@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MOBARRY] birthdates > >Hi, I'm writing to ask if anyone besides me has encountered a problem >with a one-year discrepancy between the birthdate listed on the 1900 >census and a person's actual birthdate? For example, the census record >says that a person was born August 15, 1882, but his death certificate >says August 15, 1883. It's always that the birth month and day are >correct but the year is off by exactly one year. Anybody else run into >this situation? Patricia Topolski > > >_____________________________________________________________________________ >______ >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is Donna >Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >Please tell us about your Barry county ancestors. The list-admin is >Donna Cooper, address - (saarisr@sbcglobal.net) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MOBARRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Suzanne, If the census enumerator is properly following directions, then the date the census was taken is not used in the age calculations. The date the enumerator is instructed to use is the census day. In the case of the 1900 census the census day is 1 Jun 1900. Sincerely, Cliff >-----Original Message----- >From: mobarry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mobarry- >bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry and/or Suzanne > >You look at the date on the top of the census page as to when the >census was taken. That may clear up some dates for you. I have seen >some taken as late as Nov. of the year. > >Suzanne >