Bob, According to my 1996 Geographical Names Directory there are several Payne cemeteries in Missouri. The one in Audrain County is at longitude/latitude 390959N 0912903W. There isn't one listed in Montgomery County. Mt. Carmel is at 391003N 0912919W in Audrain County so they appear fairly close. Mt. Carmel is listed as "historical". Which means that it no longer exists. I can't find Mt. Carmel in my 1833 or 1853 Gazetteer. However www.topozone.com shows the coordinates as appearing in Montgomery County SouthEast of Middletown. Hope this helps. Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: bbr13 [mailto:bbr13@netzero.net] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:58 AM To: MOAUDRAI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MOAUDRAI] Mt. Carmel Where was Mt. Carmel ? An old obituary from the Middletown Chips of Montgomery county Missouri for James Farris states died 6 Apr 1897 in Audrain buried near Mt. Carmel in Payne graveyard. After research at Montgomery County Historical Society I found nothing about Payne graveyard or Mt. Carmel. There is no Mt. Carmel on current state maps. Bob Reel