My grandpa's second-oldest brother was Ferdinand Joseph DOERR (born 24 Nov 1850, St. Louis), who married (in St. Louis) Amalia GEISEL (born Oct 1854). Their first five children (There may have been additional.) were Ferdinand born 1875 Eleanora Anna born 1877 Oscar Peter born 1879 Juliet born 1885 Violena Helena born 1887. They disappeared from St. Louis and I suspect moved away. Anyone know anything about them? Most of the rest of the family is easily traced. Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks