Dear Sharon, The St. Louis Public Library has passenger lists and indices. I just received a copy of one the records that I requested. I did have the ship's name and date of arrival. Cost was $1.00 for postage and$0.25 per page and there were three pages. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Click on #5 for lists of what the library has and then go back and click on "Reference Desk" to email your request. They should be able to get at least one of your records, maybe even the other. Georgia SReif1956@comcast.net wrote: > Hey all, > > I have an extract from a Ancestry CD for Italians to America (arrivals in early 1890, 1891 before Ellis Island). It has my gr grandmother's name, ship name, date of arrival, destination New York, along with a manifest number. > > I also have the entry for my other gr grandmother with her 3 oldests sons, and date of entry to New York, with final destination set for St. Louis. But I do not have the ship name, as it was not listed, but it did have the manifest number. > > If I write to the National Archives, could they possibly get me a real copy of the ship manifests? Is the name of the ship necessary, or is the manifest number with date of arrival OK. If so, what is the cost? Has anyone done this before? If so, how long does it take? Is this something that I could get by visiting the National Archives center in Chicago, or is it best to contact the "big house" in Wash DC? > > As you can see, I have not done this before, just dealt with Ellis Island for other relatives. > > Sharon Bognar Reif > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look.