Thanks for the info. I'm sure you are right about that. When I first marked that location for the pond I was under the impression that it was within 0.25 miles of that location, but I could easily be wrong about that. Yeah, the city of St. Louis has torn up quite a few things that used to be. I can't seem to find the indian mound north of downtown that was mined away long ago. I'm still searching for it. Maybe this is it, but I thought I had more information on it: Big Mound (historical) : summit : 383836N0901111W : : : Located at Mound St and Broadway. : Removed in 1869. AKA "La Butte De Terre; AKA La Grange de Terre Located here: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=38.64333&lon=-90.18639&datum=NAD27&s=50&size=l While searching, I did run across the natural bridge that a road was named after. That natural bridge was destroyed: "Gave "Natural Bridge Ave" in St. Louis it's name. The road passed over Rocky Branch Creek over the top of the natural b ridge near the present Salisbury Street. It was destroyed in the 1800's." Mike > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Old St Louis brickyards > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:16:06 -0400 > From: Gary Stoltman <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Mike > > Don't think that the pond was that far west. Looking at an 1823 survey map, > it essentially was a "leg & thigh" shaped lake starting at Market & 9th > (leg) on the north; 8th & Spruce on the east; while the west didn't extend > past 10th St for the main portion (thigh). The remainder ran in a > southwesterly direction. Of course, this is an 1823 survey and perhaps the > dimensions changed by the 1840-50s. > > Is Aloe Plaza across from the Station? Have forgotten - lived here since > 1976. > > Also, never realized there was a bluff that far west! > > Gary