OK - here is the scoop on the St. Louis City Hospital registers, Female Hospital registers, Midwives and Physicians, etc., collection listed below as available from the Mormon Church. http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx I talked to an archivist at City Hall and she told me that the records are there, but are not available for genealogical research because of the Mo. HIPPA law. I questioned whether the HIPPA law would apply to records that are over a hundred years old and she said that she didn't know, but that the city is not going to allow access to the registers unless the person researching meets HIPPA requirements. I checked with a knowledgeable person at a St. Louis hospital and she told me that the HIPPA law does not apply to records that are over 70 years old and apply only to the actual medical record, not an index to them. Regardless, the city of St. Louis is not going to allow access to these records. So, folks, the only way to get to these records is from the church of Latter Day Saints. I hope that the libraries take a look at this set of records and consider getting them for us. To me, they would be extremely valuable to people looking for anyone, but especially for women (because of the Female hospital registers). It is ironic that without the Mormon church, nobody would have these records. So for those of you who are trying to find a person who died between the years 1846 to 1900 and during the year 1927 or for and for those who just want to document that a person was in St. Louis during those years as well as those who are looking for females (the Female Hospital and the Midwives list), this collection could be very valuable. If you have a "brick wall" in this time period, you might be able to find a relly's name on the index. You won't be able to get the actual medical record, but I would think that knowing that the person was hospitalized and knowing their age, you might be able to narrow down an assumed death date for a person this way. This collection is large and would be too expensive to rent as a set. I believe there are 16 films alone in the City Hospital collection. I would encourage anyone who rents one of these films to offer to do lookups for others on the Rootsweb list. This is a good example of the huge service done for us by the Mormon Church. Diane Shaw _____________________________________________________________ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Early City Hospital Registers & Health records Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:38:40 -0600 From: Diane <[email protected]> To: ST. Louis Rootsweb <[email protected]>, [email protected] Below is a link to the LDS listing for Health Records in St. Louis City: http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx It lists: City Hospital Registers: 1846-1900 and 1927 Female Hospital Registers: 1876-1905 Register of Midwives and Physicians: 1869-1906 among 5 items available in this health category. One of the other items is a book, which of course, you can't order unless you order it through a Family History Library and the other is a film of Health Facility Reports. I would think that these three films would be of great interest to people in the St. Louis area as well as outside of St. Louis. I e-mailed the County Library to determine if these films are in their collection and they are not. I called the Public library and found that they are not in the collection of their library either. However, Kathy Smith, our list buddy, told me that she thinks the registers are available at City Hall and recommended that I call and ask about it. I called the Archives at City Hall (314-622-4610) and was advised that they are not sure if they have the records. They are going to return my call. These films would especially be of interest to anyone who had a physician in their family, and/or anyone searching for a female during those years. So, for everyone with interests in St. Louis health records - in or out of St. Louis- these films are available through the LDS library and are probably worth checking out. I will post any information I get about the availability of these records through St. Louis City Hall when they return my call. Diane Shaw Hi Diane, I am sorry but we do not have permission from the owning archive to purchase these films. Joyce At 01:36 PM 11/25/2005 -0600, you wrote: I have found a set of 16 films that are in the Mormon Church (LDS) library that are City Hospital registers for the years 1846 through 1900. The Female Hospital registers are there too. I have never seen this collection in the County or City Libraries. Are they available in St. Louis? Diane Shaw Hillsboro, MO

Hello Diane, Sorry to hear about your foot surgery. Hope everything is mending quickly. I was in Antonia Woods the 1st weekend in Oct. My son has added an addition to his home, (he did a lot of the wood work himself) but it was all beautiful. Seen my two great granddaughters and watched them play. They are adorable. The area out on 55 (I think that was the # of the highway) is sure growing. Didn't recognize it, especially the bottom road leading into AW. Nice to read you on e-mail again. I have a gr. grandmother who died in the city hospital in 1944, but my letter was returned and not forwarded, so it was a dead end for me. It will be interesting to see if you find out anything about your relative. Good Luck! Rosalie Lohmann, Naples, Fl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City Hospital Register etc. only available from LDS > OK - here is the scoop on the St. Louis City Hospital registers, Female > Hospital registers, Midwives and Physicians, etc., collection listed > below as available from the Mormon Church. > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > I talked to an archivist at City Hall and she told me that the records > are there, but are not available for genealogical research because of > the Mo. HIPPA law. I questioned whether the HIPPA law would apply to > records that are over a hundred years old and she said that she didn't > know, but that the city is not going to allow access to the registers > unless the person researching meets HIPPA requirements. I checked with > a knowledgeable person at a St. Louis hospital and she told me that the > HIPPA law does not apply to records that are over 70 years old and apply > only to the actual medical record, not an index to them. Regardless, > the city of St. Louis is not going to allow access to these records. > So, folks, the only way to get to these records is from the church of > Latter Day Saints. I hope that the libraries take a look at this set of > records and consider getting them for us. To me, they would be > extremely valuable to people looking for anyone, but especially for > women (because of the Female hospital registers). It is ironic that > without the Mormon church, nobody would have these records. > > So for those of you who are trying to find a person who died between the > years 1846 to 1900 and during the year 1927 or for and for those who > just want to document that a person was in St. Louis during those years > as well as those who are looking for females (the Female Hospital and > the Midwives list), this collection could be very valuable. If you have > a "brick wall" in this time period, you might be able to find a relly's > name on the index. You won't be able to get the actual medical record, > but I would think that knowing that the person was hospitalized and > knowing their age, you might be able to narrow down an assumed death > date for a person this way. > > This collection is large and would be too expensive to rent as a set. I > believe there are 16 films alone in the City Hospital collection. I > would encourage anyone who rents one of these films to offer to do > lookups for others on the Rootsweb list. > > This is a good example of the huge service done for us by the Mormon Church. > > Diane Shaw > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Early City Hospital Registers & Health records > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:38:40 -0600 > From: Diane <[email protected]> > To: ST. Louis Rootsweb <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > > > Below is a link to the LDS listing for Health Records in St. Louis City: > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > It lists: > > City Hospital Registers: 1846-1900 and 1927 > Female Hospital Registers: 1876-1905 > Register of Midwives and Physicians: 1869-1906 > > among 5 items available in this health category. One of the other items > is a book, which of course, you can't order unless you order it through > a Family History Library and the other is a film of Health Facility Reports. > > I would think that these three films would be of great interest to > people in the St. Louis area as well as outside of St. Louis. I > e-mailed the County Library to determine if these films are in their > collection and they are not. I called the Public library and found > that they are not in the collection of their library either. However, > Kathy Smith, our list buddy, told me that she thinks the registers are > available at City Hall and recommended that I call and ask about it. I > called the Archives at City Hall (314-622-4610) and was advised that > they are not sure if they have the records. They are going to return my > call. > > These films would especially be of interest to anyone who had a > physician in their family, and/or anyone searching for a female during > those years. So, for everyone with interests in St. Louis health > records - in or out of St. Louis- these films are available through the > LDS library and are probably worth checking out. > > I will post any information I get about the availability of these > records through St. Louis City Hall when they return my call. > > Diane Shaw > > > > Hi Diane, > I am sorry but we do not have permission from the owning archive to > purchase these films. > Joyce > > At 01:36 PM 11/25/2005 -0600, you wrote: > I have found a set of 16 films that are in the Mormon Church (LDS) > library that are City Hospital registers for the years 1846 through > 1900. The Female Hospital registers are there too. > > I have never seen this collection in the County or City Libraries. Are > they available in St. Louis? > > Diane Shaw > Hillsboro, MO > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]

Thank you for your very informative message. I personally am interested in this as my great-grandfather died in the City Hospital in 1896 and would like to pursue his record further. My question to you, and please ingore my ingorance, but what is "the HIPPA law"? Lynn Diane wrote: > OK - here is the scoop on the St. Louis City Hospital registers, Female > Hospital registers, Midwives and Physicians, etc., collection listed > below as available from the Mormon Church. > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > I talked to an archivist at City Hall and she told me that the records > are there, but are not available for genealogical research because of > the Mo. HIPPA law. I questioned whether the HIPPA law would apply to > records that are over a hundred years old and she said that she didn't > know, but that the city is not going to allow access to the registers > unless the person researching meets HIPPA requirements. I checked with > a knowledgeable person at a St. Louis hospital and she told me that the > HIPPA law does not apply to records that are over 70 years old and apply > only to the actual medical record, not an index to them. Regardless, > the city of St. Louis is not going to allow access to these records. > So, folks, the only way to get to these records is from the church of > Latter Day Saints. I hope that the libraries take a look at this set of > records and consider getting them for us. To me, they would be > extremely valuable to people looking for anyone, but especially for > women (because of the Female hospital registers). It is ironic that > without the Mormon church, nobody would have these records. > > So for those of you who are trying to find a person who died between the > years 1846 to 1900 and during the year 1927 or for and for those who > just want to document that a person was in St. Louis during those years > as well as those who are looking for females (the Female Hospital and > the Midwives list), this collection could be very valuable. If you have > a "brick wall" in this time period, you might be able to find a relly's > name on the index. You won't be able to get the actual medical record, > but I would think that knowing that the person was hospitalized and > knowing their age, you might be able to narrow down an assumed death > date for a person this way. > > This collection is large and would be too expensive to rent as a set. I > believe there are 16 films alone in the City Hospital collection. I > would encourage anyone who rents one of these films to offer to do > lookups for others on the Rootsweb list. > This is a good example of the huge service done for us by the Mormon > Church. > > Diane Shaw > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Early City Hospital Registers & Health records > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:38:40 -0600 > From: Diane <[email protected]> > To: ST. Louis Rootsweb <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > > > Below is a link to the LDS listing for Health Records in St. Louis City: > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > It lists: > > City Hospital Registers: 1846-1900 and 1927 > Female Hospital Registers: 1876-1905 > Register of Midwives and Physicians: 1869-1906 > > among 5 items available in this health category. One of the other items > is a book, which of course, you can't order unless you order it through > a Family History Library and the other is a film of Health Facility > Reports. > > I would think that these three films would be of great interest to > people in the St. Louis area as well as outside of St. Louis. I > e-mailed the County Library to determine if these films are in their > collection and they are not. I called the Public library and found > that they are not in the collection of their library either. However, > Kathy Smith, our list buddy, told me that she thinks the registers are > available at City Hall and recommended that I call and ask about it. I > called the Archives at City Hall (314-622-4610) and was advised that > they are not sure if they have the records. They are going to return my > call. > > These films would especially be of interest to anyone who had a > physician in their family, and/or anyone searching for a female during > those years. So, for everyone with interests in St. Louis health > records - in or out of St. Louis- these films are available through the > LDS library and are probably worth checking out. > I will post any information I get about the availability of these > records through St. Louis City Hall when they return my call. > > Diane Shaw > > > > Hi Diane, > I am sorry but we do not have permission from the owning archive to > purchase these films. > Joyce > > At 01:36 PM 11/25/2005 -0600, you wrote: > I have found a set of 16 films that are in the Mormon Church (LDS) > library that are City Hospital registers for the years 1846 through > 1900. The Female Hospital registers are there too. > > I have never seen this collection in the County or City Libraries. Are > they available in St. Louis? > > Diane Shaw > Hillsboro, MO > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] > > >