Our grandfather, James Curry, had a brother Hugh Curry, who married Henrietta Alreda Bader in about 1854 in St. Louis. They seem to have had some St. Clair connection as well. Any chance of a connection here? Joyce Curry --- JAMES O BRASHER <jims505@msn.com> wrote: > Madelyn: > > Keep looking and I'll bet you find something.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SaeeIa@aol.com<mailto:SaeeIa@aol.com> > To: > mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City of St. Louis > -High and BiddleStreetSaloon > > > Hi Jim. > > Sounds like it wasn't my ggfathers saloon- there > was one at 9th and Biddle, > and another previously at 719 S. Main Street, > which was nearby. I have a > street atlas of the city from around the 1880s on > CD, but it wouldn't cover > later periods. > > I'm not sure how many of the Baders in the > missouri area are related. I > think there may be more than I know, but I only > know the direct line. However, > the fact that Matthais settled in St. Louis and > there were already Baders living > there, makes me suspect he had kin there. There's > another group in > St.Genevieve, nearby. I've not located the > connections, partly because our family line > ends in Germany with the burning of church > records in 1791. To my > knowledge, I would not be related to the man who > ran the Art store, but then Matthais > had 9-11 children, and most lived to have > children. While the family moved to > St. Clair, it is possible that some made their > way back to the big city. > I'll post to the list if I find more connections. > > I'll pull out that atlas too, it's possible I can > track down that saloon. > > Madelyn > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City of St. Louis > -High and Biddle > StreetSaloon Date: 6/19/2007 3:43:11 P.M. Central > Daylight Time From: > _jims505@msn.com<mailto:_jims505@msn.com>_ > (mailto:jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com>) > To: > _mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:_mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com>_ > > > (mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com>) > Sent on: > > Hi Madelyn: > The Saloon I'm looking for Shows up in the 1920 > census as being owned by a > McQuillen relative who liked to shun the spotlight > of openness. It was > labeled, "The High and Biddle Street Saloon," by > the census taker. I am almost > certain it was on or near the corner of 11th and > Biddle. I have been told by > family members that its main products were, > prescription liquors and non > prescription pharmaceuticals. I can not prove > these assertions, but would be very > surprised if they were not true. Seems there was a > lot of that kind of thing > going on during that time period. > > By any chance are you related to the Bader > gentleman who owned "Bader Art > Supplies" back in the 1950s on Olive then moved > near 12th and Locust about > 1951? A very fine gentleman, whose first name > escapes me at the moment, who > employed knot headed boys attending high school > to deliver those same supplies to > offices in downtown St Louis.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > SaeeIa@aol.com<mailto:SaeeIa@aol.com<mailto:SaeeIa@aol.com%3Cmailto:SaeeIa@aol.com>> > > To: > mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City of St. Louis > -High and Biddle > StreetSaloon > > > There was a New York Hotel and Saloon at 9th and > Biddle, in the 1870s. I > don't know if its what you're looking for. It was > operated, for some time, > by > Matthais Bader, my ggrandfather. There was > another, earlier, on what was at > the time called main street, but I've not yet > learned the name. > > Madelyn B > > ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: > [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City of > St. Louis -Tracking addresses Date: 6/18/2007 > 3:16:03 P.M. Central > Daylight > Time From: > _jims505@msn.com<mailto:_jims505@msn.com<mailto:_jims505@msn.com%3Cmailto:_jims505@msn.com>>_ > > > (mailto:jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com%3Cmailto:jims505@msn.com>>) > To: > > _dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:_dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:_dpn@mohistory.org%3Cmailto:_dpn@mohistory.org>>_ > > > (mailto:dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:dpn@mohistory.org%3Cmailto:dpn@mohistory.org>>) > , > > _mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:_mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:_mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:_mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com>>_ > > > (mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootswebcom>>) > > Sent on: > Dennis: > > Would it be possible to find what the exact > address of the High and Biddle > Street Saloon might have been in 1920? I think > in a more modern time period > it > may have been on the corner of 11th and Biddle, > but I'm not sure.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dennis > Northcott<mailto:dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:dpn@mohistory.org<mailto:dpn@mohistory.org%3Cmailto:dpn@mohistory.org>>> > > To: > > Joe@joelight.com<mailto:Joe@joelight.com<mailto:Joe@joelight.com%3Cmailto:Joe@joelight.com<mailto:Joe@joelight.com%3Cmailto:Joe@joelight.com%3Cmailto:Joe@joelight.com%3Cmailto:Joe@joelight.com>>> > ; > > mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-s<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-s> > > tlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:tlouis-metro@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com>>> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City of St. > Louis -Tracking addresses > > > Dear Joe, > > We have a variety of resources here at the > Missouri Historical Society > Library and Research Center to help you research > the history of a > business and/or a particular piece of property in > St. Louis City and County. > > You can use reverse directories (i.e., city > directories, red books, blue > books, and red-blue books) to determine what > business or person occupied > a particular street address. In these reverse > directories you can look > up a street name alphabetically, and then look up > the street number. > > Recently we've indexed a variety of published > and manuscript sources > that can help you determine what business or > person occupied a > particular address. For example, we've indexed a > large collection of St. > Louis business letterheads (mostly dated > 1860s-1920s). Most of the > sources we've indexed thus far relate to St. > Louis City addresses, > rather than St. Louis County. > > We also have a collection of maps and atlases, > some of which provide the > name of the person or business who owned a > particular piece of land. > Whipple and Sanborn fire-insurance maps, dated > circa 1870s-1940s can be > helpful. > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! 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