I can get them to open, but they are empty, except in a couple of cases there is an embalming record on the bottom of page 2. I don't recall that being there before. Nice to know it's not my machine!! In a message dated 5/14/2007 12:02:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mo-stlouis-metro-request@rootsweb.com writes: Is anyone else having problems opening the pdf images at the mo Archive's? I keep getting a web server error on every pdf file I try to open. Thank you ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
You must save them to your harddrive. Then highlight them and right click on your mouse. Then you must click on "open with" and pick Adobe Reader. For some reason my 4.0 and 8.0 Adobe Readers do not want to open these files directly. Bobbie From: Xann55@aol.com Date sent: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:54:34 EDT To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] MO archives PDF Images Send reply to: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com > > I can get them to open, but they are empty, except in a couple of cases > there is an embalming record on the bottom of page 2. I don't recall that being > there before. Nice to know it's not my machine!! > > > In a message dated 5/14/2007 12:02:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > mo-stlouis-metro-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Is anyone else having problems opening the pdf images at the mo Archive's? I > keep getting a web server error on every pdf file I try to open. > > Thank you > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 5/13/2007 12:17 PM >
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Yes, I received the same error. -----Original Message----- From: mo-stlouis-metro-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julia Gass Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:38 PM To: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] MO Archives PDF images Is anyone else having problems opening the pdf images at the mo Archive's? I keep getting a web server error on every pdf file I try to open. Thank you ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi List, My second attempt to post this on the correct list!! Ironic that we should be discussing Bettie Mae on Mother's Day. Jim is going to tell us more of the sad story. Kitty --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kathleen Watkins <sirseah@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi List, Jim kindly sent me Bettie's picture. He wanted me to post my reply to him to the list. Hope this works !! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Jim, Many thanks for Betty Mae's picture which opened just fine. She certainly is a real beauty. A very refined, ladylike look. But a certain sadness in her eyes. My thoughts on the photo itself. Does not look like a 'studio' portrait. The lighting is not dramatic enough. But the photographer's logo seems to be "Hollywood" --which indicates she is still there in 1942. Can you tell our list members how the two children turned out after 10? years in the orphanage? I suppose there were no aunts for the kids to go to ?? How did she support herself before she gave the kids up ? Was there ever a reconciliation ? Again much appreciation. Kitty -
Hi Folks, I posted this to the wrong list. Kitty Note: forwarded message attached.
Dear Mr Doerr: Has the current "Missouri State Genealogical Association Journal" reached the publishers yet? I am patiently waiting to read some of the fine articles you print, as the editor of this fine Journal.----Jim Brasher
Hi Shirl: Not yet, but Sandy Hardin tells me she is pretty busy and will be posting it very soon. Right now she is looking for a very obscure movie that not even the players union can find. I'll send you a copy off line.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: ShineOn101@aol.com<mailto:ShineOn101@aol.com> To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info Is the pic posted yet? I want to see it. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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A week ago today I was given some of the old, paper (well, cardboard) round Missouri mills from the 1930s. FOR THE RECORD: (I had forgotten) that they were of two sizes, but they were. Also some of the pre-war zinc ones. Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Sole surviving founding officer, Missouri Chapter, Nature Conservancy
There was a Carl Schneider who was a professor of history in the St. Louis area. He taught church history at Eden Theological Seminary, Webster Groves. W ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Kathy, Please contact me directly, I think I may have information that could be helpful. I was acquainted with a Carl Schneider in St. Louis. Walter ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
If you think you know or have any information about the family below please contact me. I believe that Andrew Schneider is my grandfather's brother and I am trying to find any descendants or relatives by marriage. It appears that Andrew had no grandchildren (?) so my search has been difficult. Members of this family are buried in Hiram Park Cemetery and Memorial Cemetery in St. Louis. Carl Schneider's wife May (Bowers) died in 1992 and is buried in Memorial Park Cemetery. Maybe someone on this list has a connection to her. I am trying to locate any pictures of this family which may have been passed down. Thank you for any help at all. Kathy in Louisville kathysig@insightbb.com Descendants of Andrew Schneider 1 Andrew Schneider b: 01 Jan 1865 in Urloffen, Baden, Germany d: 25 Sep 1937 in St. Louis, MO Immigration: 1880 Baden to St. Louis .. +Bertha L. Buechel m: Abt. 1889 in St. Louis, MO b: Jun 1866 in St Louis, MO d: 08 Jun 1945 in St. Louis, MO ...... 2 [1] Bertha Schneider b: 02 Jun 1889 in St. Louis, MO d: 26 Jan 1976 in St. Louis, MO .......... +William E. Kiel b: 29 Oct 1887 in St. Louis, MO d: Dec 1941 in St. Louis, MO ...... *2nd Husband of [1] Bertha Schneider: .......... +Henry W. Schmidt d: May 1952 in Missouri ...... 2 [2] Ida E. Schneider b: Feb 1894 in St. Louis, MO d: Nov 1959 in St. Louis, MO .......... +Simms m: Bef. 1920 in St Louis, MO ...... *2nd Husband of [2] Ida E. Schneider: .......... +William Roy McDonnell m: Abt. 1920 in St Louis, MO b: 31 Jan 1897 in St Louis, MO d: Oct 1964 in St. Louis, MO ...... 2 Alvira Schneider b: Sep 1899 in St. Louis, MO d: 13 Apr 1901 in St. Louis, MO ...... 2 Chas Schneider b: 14 Sep 1902 in St. Louis, MO d: 14 Sep 1902 in St. Louis, MO ...... 2 Carl A. Schneider b: Abt. 1903 in St. Louis, MO d: 31 Oct 1965 in St. Louis, MO .......... +May B. Bowers b: 14 Jan 1904 in St. Louis, MO d: 26 Feb 1992 in St. Louis, MO ...... 2 Alfred Schneider b: 07 Dec 1906 in St. Louis, MO d: 07 May 1910 in St. Louis, MO
Yes Jim, do that....I would think she looked much the same in the 20';s or 30's...maybe different makeup style is all. Linda Young Nehring -----Original Message----- From: jey1@swbell.net To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info Jim, Please send me a copy off line also. I have a book Stars of the Movies published 1927 with 250 photos of "stars" of the 1920's.. I checked and she is not listed as Brown, Brasher, etc but Linda is has a good idea about a change of her name. I'll check out her photo - never know. Joan Schaller Yeckel jey1@swbell.net JAMES O BRASHER wrote: >Hi Linda: > >Tis a very good idea you suggest. I have a picture taken shortly after her appearance in the movie but can't think of where to post it. I have posted a picture of Betty Mae, taken about 1906 in Paragould, Arkansas on their web site. The only problem is that it doesn't show her in her 20s or 30s. > >Short of posting the picture, I am going to send you a copy off line. I also believe there may have been some sort of name change, perhaps even; "May West." But I can't swear to that.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lsnehring@aol.com<mailto:lsnehring@aol.com> > To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> ; mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info > > > Hey Jim...failing all else....can u put up a photo as a link for us? Maybe someone will recognize her and come up with the name she worked under. Betty Brown or Betty Brasher sounds rather commonplace...I'm thinking they would have changed her name altogether as they did so often then. > > Linda Young Nehring > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com> > To: mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:52 AM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info > > My word, my friends on the list sure get rowdy with me sometimes when I leave > something undone. So here is the info I am searching for. > > Betty Mae Brown was the daughter of Septimus Brown and was born July 6, 1899 in > Ellsinore, MO in Carter County. She married Ralph Waldo Brasher Sr in Cape > Girardeau, MO, March 30, 1915 and became Betty Mae Brown Brasher. The happy > couple would have two children; Ralph Jr in 1916 and Nolda May in 1918. By 1919 > the happy couple was no longer happy and was divorced by the 1920 census. > > Sometime in the mid to late 1920s Betty would place her two children in homes > for wayward children in Independence, MO. The two children were approximately 6 > and 8 years old when this took place and I can't even guess how wayward a six > and eight year child can be. They would remain there until 1933. > > Knowing her great beauty could not be concealed from the world for any great > length of time, she headed for Hollywood where she would re-marry sometime in > the 20s, 30s or 40s. (I suspect the 30s) The mystery man had a last name; > "Stevenson," according to Betty Mae's death certificate of 1953, from Juneau, > Alaska. No one in the family knows what his first name was. > > I know she appeared in a movie but have not one shred of evidence what the name > was or what name she used; it could have been: > > Betty Mae Brown > > Mae or May Brown > > Betty Brasher > > Mae or May Brasher > > Betty Stephenson > > Betty Stevens > > Or any combination of the above names, but I suspect Brown. I have pictures of > this grandmother, who I have always thought of as "the wicked witch of the > north." I must admit she was a pretty good looking woman though. Most will > remember my search for Septimus Brown's second family and my brick wall. As a > refresher you can find that story at the below address. The found family was > Betty Mae's sisters and brothers. > > http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/%3Chttp://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/>> > > The story was very well written by Megan Smolenyak, a professional genealogist > for Ancestry Dot Com Magazine. There you have it, my father's mother and another > closet full of skeletons.----Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Well if she was May West...I'm sure we'll recognize her.....um....hair. Linda Young Nehring -----Original Message----- From: jims505@msn.com To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info Hi Linda: Tis a very good idea you suggest. I have a picture taken shortly after her appearance in the movie but can't think of where to post it. I have posted a picture of Betty Mae, taken about 1906 in Paragould, Arkansas on their web site. The only problem is that it doesn't show her in her 20s or 30s. Short of posting the picture, I am going to send you a copy off line. I also believe there may have been some sort of name change, perhaps even; "May West." But I can't swear to that.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: lsnehring@aol.com<mailto:lsnehring@aol.com> To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> ; mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info Hey Jim...failing all else....can u put up a photo as a link for us? Maybe someone will recognize her and come up with the name she worked under. Betty Brown or Betty Brasher sounds rather commonplace...I'm thinking they would have changed her name altogether as they did so often then. Linda Young Nehring -----Original Message----- From: jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com> To: mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:52 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info My word, my friends on the list sure get rowdy with me sometimes when I leave something undone. So here is the info I am searching for. Betty Mae Brown was the daughter of Septimus Brown and was born July 6, 1899 in Ellsinore, MO in Carter County. She married Ralph Waldo Brasher Sr in Cape Girardeau, MO, March 30, 1915 and became Betty Mae Brown Brasher. The happy couple would have two children; Ralph Jr in 1916 and Nolda May in 1918. By 1919 the happy couple was no longer happy and was divorced by the 1920 census. Sometime in the mid to late 1920s Betty would place her two children in homes for wayward children in Independence, MO. The two children were approximately 6 and 8 years old when this took place and I can't even guess how wayward a six and eight year child can be. They would remain there until 1933. Knowing her great beauty could not be concealed from the world for any great length of time, she headed for Hollywood where she would re-marry sometime in the 20s, 30s or 40s. (I suspect the 30s) The mystery man had a last name; "Stevenson," according to Betty Mae's death certificate of 1953, from Juneau, Alaska. No one in the family knows what his first name was. I know she appeared in a movie but have not one shred of evidence what the name was or what name she used; it could have been: Betty Mae Brown Mae or May Brown Betty Brasher Mae or May Brasher Betty Stephenson Betty Stevens Or any combination of the above names, but I suspect Brown. I have pictures of this grandmother, who I have always thought of as "the wicked witch of the north." I must admit she was a pretty good looking woman though. Most will remember my search for Septimus Brown's second family and my brick wall. As a refresher you can find that story at the below address. The found family was Betty Mae's sisters and brothers. http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/%3Chttp://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/>> The story was very well written by Megan Smolenyak, a professional genealogist for Ancestry Dot Com Magazine. There you have it, my father's mother and another closet full of skeletons.----Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
This was in the St Louis Post Dispatch today, 8 May 2007. St Charles Section, page B-3. (website: stltoday.com) For anyone who wants to get involved, you can probably contact Mr. ONeill who wrote the article. Old Cemeterys Owner Is Seeking A Savior by Tim ONeill Washington Park Cemetery is located at Natural Bridge Rd and McDonnell Blvd. The owner says it will take an angel to save the old graveyard from its sad, twisted past. Entire sections of the cemetery are overgrown and the interior is thick with growth that overwhelms many tilting headstones. The cemetery dates to 1902 and has about 30,000 grave sites south of I-70 and supposedly began as a burial place for black residents of rural areas of north St Louis County. (No names were mentioned in the article.) The bottom line to this article is the owner, Mr. Ronald Kuper, is looking for someone else to step in and take over; he is looking for grants or sponsors to help him clean up the overgrowth and restore the cemetery. - - - - I guess this article really hit home with me because I have some of my KIDD ancestors in a cemetery down in Blount County, TN that until last year was in this same pitiful condition. We couldnt get more than a foot into most of it because of all the vegetation. Luckily, a drive got spearheaded from neighbors, donations, and church involvement and today it is in beautiful condition once again and my KIDD tombstones have all been identified. Ranee in Weldon Spring/St Charles MO Seeking Brader/Breder, (von) Gerichten, Kidd, Kinski, Kramme, Lavely, Pfeiffer, Urban
Jim, Please send me a copy off line also. I have a book Stars of the Movies published 1927 with 250 photos of "stars" of the 1920's.. I checked and she is not listed as Brown, Brasher, etc but Linda is has a good idea about a change of her name. I'll check out her photo - never know. Joan Schaller Yeckel jey1@swbell.net JAMES O BRASHER wrote: >Hi Linda: > >Tis a very good idea you suggest. I have a picture taken shortly after her appearance in the movie but can't think of where to post it. I have posted a picture of Betty Mae, taken about 1906 in Paragould, Arkansas on their web site. The only problem is that it doesn't show her in her 20s or 30s. > >Short of posting the picture, I am going to send you a copy off line. I also believe there may have been some sort of name change, perhaps even; "May West." But I can't swear to that.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lsnehring@aol.com<mailto:lsnehring@aol.com> > To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> ; mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info > > > Hey Jim...failing all else....can u put up a photo as a link for us? Maybe someone will recognize her and come up with the name she worked under. Betty Brown or Betty Brasher sounds rather commonplace...I'm thinking they would have changed her name altogether as they did so often then. > > Linda Young Nehring > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com> > To: mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:52 AM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info > > My word, my friends on the list sure get rowdy with me sometimes when I leave > something undone. So here is the info I am searching for. > > Betty Mae Brown was the daughter of Septimus Brown and was born July 6, 1899 in > Ellsinore, MO in Carter County. She married Ralph Waldo Brasher Sr in Cape > Girardeau, MO, March 30, 1915 and became Betty Mae Brown Brasher. The happy > couple would have two children; Ralph Jr in 1916 and Nolda May in 1918. By 1919 > the happy couple was no longer happy and was divorced by the 1920 census. > > Sometime in the mid to late 1920s Betty would place her two children in homes > for wayward children in Independence, MO. The two children were approximately 6 > and 8 years old when this took place and I can't even guess how wayward a six > and eight year child can be. They would remain there until 1933. > > Knowing her great beauty could not be concealed from the world for any great > length of time, she headed for Hollywood where she would re-marry sometime in > the 20s, 30s or 40s. (I suspect the 30s) The mystery man had a last name; > "Stevenson," according to Betty Mae's death certificate of 1953, from Juneau, > Alaska. No one in the family knows what his first name was. > > I know she appeared in a movie but have not one shred of evidence what the name > was or what name she used; it could have been: > > Betty Mae Brown > > Mae or May Brown > > Betty Brasher > > Mae or May Brasher > > Betty Stephenson > > Betty Stevens > > Or any combination of the above names, but I suspect Brown. I have pictures of > this grandmother, who I have always thought of as "the wicked witch of the > north." I must admit she was a pretty good looking woman though. Most will > remember my search for Septimus Brown's second family and my brick wall. As a > refresher you can find that story at the below address. The found family was > Betty Mae's sisters and brothers. > > http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/%3Chttp://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/>> > > The story was very well written by Megan Smolenyak, a professional genealogist > for Ancestry Dot Com Magazine. There you have it, my father's mother and another > closet full of skeletons.----Jim > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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Hey Jim...failing all else....can u put up a photo as a link for us? Maybe someone will recognize her and come up with the name she worked under. Betty Brown or Betty Brasher sounds rather commonplace...I'm thinking they would have changed her name altogether as they did so often then. Linda Young Nehring -----Original Message----- From: jims505@msn.com To: mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:52 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info My word, my friends on the list sure get rowdy with me sometimes when I leave something undone. So here is the info I am searching for. Betty Mae Brown was the daughter of Septimus Brown and was born July 6, 1899 in Ellsinore, MO in Carter County. She married Ralph Waldo Brasher Sr in Cape Girardeau, MO, March 30, 1915 and became Betty Mae Brown Brasher. The happy couple would have two children; Ralph Jr in 1916 and Nolda May in 1918. By 1919 the happy couple was no longer happy and was divorced by the 1920 census. Sometime in the mid to late 1920s Betty would place her two children in homes for wayward children in Independence, MO. The two children were approximately 6 and 8 years old when this took place and I can't even guess how wayward a six and eight year child can be. They would remain there until 1933. Knowing her great beauty could not be concealed from the world for any great length of time, she headed for Hollywood where she would re-marry sometime in the 20s, 30s or 40s. (I suspect the 30s) The mystery man had a last name; "Stevenson," according to Betty Mae's death certificate of 1953, from Juneau, Alaska. No one in the family knows what his first name was. I know she appeared in a movie but have not one shred of evidence what the name was or what name she used; it could have been: Betty Mae Brown Mae or May Brown Betty Brasher Mae or May Brasher Betty Stephenson Betty Stevens Or any combination of the above names, but I suspect Brown. I have pictures of this grandmother, who I have always thought of as "the wicked witch of the north." I must admit she was a pretty good looking woman though. Most will remember my search for Septimus Brown's second family and my brick wall. As a refresher you can find that story at the below address. The found family was Betty Mae's sisters and brothers. http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/> The story was very well written by Megan Smolenyak, a professional genealogist for Ancestry Dot Com Magazine. There you have it, my father's mother and another closet full of skeletons.----Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Hi Linda: Tis a very good idea you suggest. I have a picture taken shortly after her appearance in the movie but can't think of where to post it. I have posted a picture of Betty Mae, taken about 1906 in Paragould, Arkansas on their web site. The only problem is that it doesn't show her in her 20s or 30s. Short of posting the picture, I am going to send you a copy off line. I also believe there may have been some sort of name change, perhaps even; "May West." But I can't swear to that.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: lsnehring@aol.com<mailto:lsnehring@aol.com> To: mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro@rootsweb.com> ; mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info Hey Jim...failing all else....can u put up a photo as a link for us? Maybe someone will recognize her and come up with the name she worked under. Betty Brown or Betty Brasher sounds rather commonplace...I'm thinking they would have changed her name altogether as they did so often then. Linda Young Nehring -----Original Message----- From: jims505@msn.com<mailto:jims505@msn.com> To: mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com<mailto:mo-stlouis-metro-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 11:52 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] More Info My word, my friends on the list sure get rowdy with me sometimes when I leave something undone. So here is the info I am searching for. Betty Mae Brown was the daughter of Septimus Brown and was born July 6, 1899 in Ellsinore, MO in Carter County. She married Ralph Waldo Brasher Sr in Cape Girardeau, MO, March 30, 1915 and became Betty Mae Brown Brasher. The happy couple would have two children; Ralph Jr in 1916 and Nolda May in 1918. By 1919 the happy couple was no longer happy and was divorced by the 1920 census. Sometime in the mid to late 1920s Betty would place her two children in homes for wayward children in Independence, MO. The two children were approximately 6 and 8 years old when this took place and I can't even guess how wayward a six and eight year child can be. They would remain there until 1933. Knowing her great beauty could not be concealed from the world for any great length of time, she headed for Hollywood where she would re-marry sometime in the 20s, 30s or 40s. (I suspect the 30s) The mystery man had a last name; "Stevenson," according to Betty Mae's death certificate of 1953, from Juneau, Alaska. No one in the family knows what his first name was. I know she appeared in a movie but have not one shred of evidence what the name was or what name she used; it could have been: Betty Mae Brown Mae or May Brown Betty Brasher Mae or May Brasher Betty Stephenson Betty Stevens Or any combination of the above names, but I suspect Brown. I have pictures of this grandmother, who I have always thought of as "the wicked witch of the north." I must admit she was a pretty good looking woman though. Most will remember my search for Septimus Brown's second family and my brick wall. As a refresher you can find that story at the below address. The found family was Betty Mae's sisters and brothers. http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/<http://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-atjunkyard/%3Chttp://www.ancestrymagazine.com/2007/03/found/she-had-me-at-junkyard/>> The story was very well written by Megan Smolenyak, a professional genealogist for Ancestry Dot Com Magazine. There you have it, my father's mother and another closet full of skeletons.----Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:MO-STLOUIS-METRO-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>From the Globe Democrat, March 27, 1926. I copied an obit which I needed but thought I wouls share a few other that were on the same page in hopes it would help someone. Keep in mind that all I have is the obit which was printed, no additional information: DORSEY - Entered into rest Friday, March 26, 1926, Pearl Dorsey, 1226 Missouri Ave, beloved daughter of Eliza Jane Dorsey, and dear sister of Mrs. Virginia Griffin, in her 29th year. Due notice of funeral from McLaughlin's parlors, Lafayette and Missouri Avenues. FISCHER - Entered int rest Thursday, March 25, 1926, Doris L. Fischer (nee Holthause), dear mother of Emily M., Clara A., and Theodore L. Fischer, Mrs. Mabel Waterman, Mrs. H. W. Korhammer, and Mrs. John E. Gibson, Jr. Services at Wagoner chapel, 3621 Olive Street, Saturday, March 27, at 2:30pm interment private. Bellefontaine Cemetery. FOSHER - Entered into rest Friday March 26, 1926, John Fosher, dear father of M.E. Fosher, father in law of Mrs. M.E. Fosher, and grandfather of Hobart Warne, John Lee Fosher. Remains at residence, 4173 Delmar boulevard until 6 a.m. March 28. Interment at Purdin, MO. GIESELMAN - On Friday, March 26, 1926, after a short illness, Anna M. Gieselman, sister in law of William and Fred Gieselman, and our dear aunt, aged 70 years. Funeral from Schmitts parlors 3934 Russell boulevard, on Sunday, March 28, at 2pm to St. Peters Cemetery. GRACE - Friday, March 26, 1926, 7a.m. Roberta M.E. Grace, darling daughter of Robert and Margaret Grace (nee Small) sister of Inez Grace, dear granddaughter of Mr. and Mrs. W.M. Small, bleoved niece of Wallace and Lillian Small. Funeral Sunday, March 28, 2p.m. from family residence, 3438 Eads avenue to Valhalla Cemetery. HARLAN - On Thursday, March 25, 1926, Harriett B. (or R.) Harlan, mother of Mrs. Eunice Carter, Fred T., James W., Hobart and Ira M. Harlan. Remains will be forwrded from Ambruster chapel 4234 Manchester avenue to Chesterfield, ILL, Sunday Morning. HESS - Entered into rest on Thursday, March 25, 1925, George Judson Hess, beloved husband of Maude Love Hess (nee Petree), dear father of Burchard O., Virginia B. Baird, Mildred A. Dunbar, grandfather of Shirley Virginia and June Baird, Mildred P. and Martha Jane Dunbar, Geroge Judson Hess II, brother of Mrs. Mary Culbertson, Mrs. Harriet B. Hart, Rolla, Wilson, Hiram and Will Hess. Funeral from the family residence 5501 Bartmer avenue, on Saturday, March 27, at 2pm under the auspices of Rose Hill Lodge No. 550, A.F. and A. M. Deceased was a past master of Rose Hill Lodge No. 550 A.F. and A. M., member of Missouri Chapter NO. 1, R.A.M., past commander Ascalon Commandery No. 16 K.T., 33d Hon. A.S.S.R. and Moolah Temple A.A.O.N.M.S. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.