Dear Barbara, The St. Louis PUBLIC Library has lots of genealogical "stuff" available by email request and a great staff. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm CAtholic church records are available at the St. Louis COUNTY library and through the Mormon church. Diane Shaw's Irish in St. Louis website has lots of links for info other than Irish. http://members.gtw.net/%7Eseamus/Irshnstl.htm Dave Lossos' website for genealogy has some church records for other denominations. http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ Georgia Barbara Byrd wrote: > Thanks for the ideas shared. I too missed the dental > floss idea. I'm suspecting it was used to pull photos > from old albums? It's also great for sewing on > buttons. > > After 40 years of marriage my husband and I have > finally bought our first home and moved into it. > > I love old photos. I'm working on a wall of all family > members who have served in the military...along with > memoribilia. The oldest photo I have is a brother of > my great grandfather who was in the Confederate army. > I have one photo...Civil War era...showing my Brooks > relatives on horses and driving a wagon. My father, > and many uncles who served from WWII, Korean, and > Vietnam eras. I have a photo of my brother in Navy > uniform...Vietman era and also my my husband's brother > and brother-in-laws... The latest photos will be one > daughter who was in the Navy during Dessert Storm and > a neice who is in the Marines. > > Has anyone ever ran across an Overton Byrd, or Thomas > Byrd in the St Louis, Mo. area?(1814-1840) He married > Martha Tesson. I'm wondering about old church records, > etc. > > Barbara Byrd > Researching: Anderson, Byrd, Brooks,Brannum, > Floyd,Noland, Pinkerton, Sprinkles, Shockley, > Stanley,Harris, Jones. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > I only work on Genealogy on days that end in "Y".

I have scanned thousands of my best photos and slides and saved them to regular CD's. That makes it easy to share photos with other family members and then the CD's can be played via a newer DVD player to the TV set in a slide show. We don't print out new photos anymore we just view our photos on the TV but if we wish to print one its easy. Also printing photos can be disappointing because if you are not using a good printer, ink and paper they can fade quickly. See this report by PC World http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111767,00.asp Another method of capturing old photos or anything in print is to use your digital camera rather than a scanner. When I visit a genealogy library I always have my camera so I can take photos of whatever records I might find. Art Rideout Fallbrook, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan T Kaemmer" <jkaemmer@juno.com> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: [StL-Metro] Re: photos > Thanks to all who responded with suggestions for the old photos. I > appreciate your help. By the way I tried the dental floss idea and if > done carefully it works quite well. > > Joan > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > I only work on Genealogy on days that end in "Y". > >

Thank you Laura, I've not thought of researching Tesson. It was Overton Byrd who married Martha Tesson. Overton's son Hampton moved his family to Texas in the mid 1870's. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Dear Joan, ' I missed the dental floss idea. Could you tell us what it was? Georgia Joan T Kaemmer wrote: > Thanks to all who responded with suggestions for the old photos. I > appreciate your help. By the way I tried the dental floss idea and if > done carefully it works quite well. > > Joan > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > I only work on Genealogy on days that end in "Y".

I don't think I sent this out right the first time. I'll try again. Thanks for the ideas shared. I too missed the dental floss idea. I'm suspecting it was used to pull photos from old albums? It's also great for sewing on buttons. After 40 years of marriage my husband and I have finally bought our first home and moved into it. I love old photos. I'm working on a wall of all family members who have served in the military...along with memoribilia. The oldest photo I have is a brother of my great grandfather who was in the Confederate army. I have one photo...Civil War era...showing my Brooks relatives on horses and driving a wagon. My father, and many uncles who served from WWII, Korean, and Vietnam eras. I have a photo of my brother in Navy uniform...Vietman era and also my my husband's brother and brother-in-laws... The latest photos will be one daughter who was in the Navy during Dessert Storm and a neice who is in the Marines. Has anyone ever ran across an Overton Byrd, or Thomas Byrd in the St Louis, Mo. area?(1814-1840) He married Martha Tesson. I'm wondering about old church records, etc. Barbara Byrd Researching: Anderson, Byrd, Brooks,Brannum, Floyd,Noland, Pinkerton, Sprinkles, Shockley, Stanley,Harris, Jones. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Thanks for the ideas shared. I too missed the dental floss idea. I'm suspecting it was used to pull photos from old albums? It's also great for sewing on buttons. After 40 years of marriage my husband and I have finally bought our first home and moved into it. I love old photos. I'm working on a wall of all family members who have served in the military...along with memoribilia. The oldest photo I have is a brother of my great grandfather who was in the Confederate army. I have one photo...Civil War era...showing my Brooks relatives on horses and driving a wagon. My father, and many uncles who served from WWII, Korean, and Vietnam eras. I have a photo of my brother in Navy uniform...Vietman era and also my my husband's brother and brother-in-laws... The latest photos will be one daughter who was in the Navy during Dessert Storm and a neice who is in the Marines. Has anyone ever ran across an Overton Byrd, or Thomas Byrd in the St Louis, Mo. area?(1814-1840) He married Martha Tesson. I'm wondering about old church records, etc. Barbara Byrd Researching: Anderson, Byrd, Brooks,Brannum, Floyd,Noland, Pinkerton, Sprinkles, Shockley, Stanley,Harris, Jones. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

List, I have been enjoying all the information on old photos especially since I recently "found" a box of family negatives, some at least 80+ years old. I have been scanning them and to make sure they are not lost, am sending them to relatives all over the U.S. Thank you so much for sharing your information. Frances

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Thanks to all who responded with suggestions for the old photos. I appreciate your help. By the way I tried the dental floss idea and if done carefully it works quite well. Joan

Dear Joan, I order archival quality goods from Light Impressions. You can email them for a catalog at www.lightimpressionsdirect.com Many of the craft stores have the acid free and lignin free "stuff" for photo albums. Georgia Joan T Kaemmer wrote: > Dear List, > > I recently received a treasure in the mail...an old photo album with > photos of my great grandfather's parents and most of his siblings. The > pages in the album are falling out. The photos are glued in. > > Any one have any experience with old photos? I think I would like to > take them out of the album (the album itself isn't that old) and either > frame them or put them in a new album. I experimented with one photo and > it won't be that difficult to remove them from the paper. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks for your help. > > Joan > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look.

Please answer Nanette offline on this. Each computer is set up differently and this list is not set up for computer help. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nannette" <nannette_478@yahoo.com> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: [StL-Metro] CD Burning & Photos > Hi, > As I dont have a teen close by, can anyone tell me how one would burn photos onto a cd. > I realize a CD/RW unit is needed.I'm looking into getting one as a replacement on my modem for the CD player that came installed.Somebody I know has, a never used IDE unit _Memorex 40x 12x48x w Roxio easy cd Ver.5 Tool Kit, very great deal, as they are upgrading instead to another higer power. > Thanks. > Nannette > > > > Nannette > > Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > I only work on Genealogy on days that end in "Y". > >

With the weather changing and the Holidays approaching many of us will start thinking about doing "something" with all the genealogy stuff we have accumulated. Some of us have written books for our families Some have done photo albums (Joan and Jerry's last postings got me thinking about this) Some have done rooms dedicated to their heritage with ethnic themes. If someone on the list has done something really special to hand down the research they have done on their families, I invite you to share what you did (without an advertising for any specific products of course) An example would be my map collection that I put together for my husband. He loves maps. So I began looking in all sorts of places, antique stores, flea markets, old text books, auction houses / sites for maps (current and actual maps from the time period) that showed the parts of the world, Missouri, and St. Louis our ancestors lived in. When the family all gathers that map album is one of the first thing someone grabs and starts looking at. Seems like someone finds something new every time. All I did was buy an oversized photo album and those acid free conservation style pages. I typed up some heading on my computer...printed them and then slipped the maps into the photo sheets where I had placed the pages with the headings. This is a relatively easy project as even antique maps from the 1800s are often available for under $20 (I got some for under $5) and they are really conversation pieces in themselves. Another example would be to take photos of the areas where your ancestors lived. (Use caution if the area has deteriorated into something that is just not safe to go to). I used disposable cameras for this project (they are light weight, come with zooms now and are very inexpensive and they took very good pictures of things like houses and streets and schools. In some cases the house no longer existed so I would shoot the area to get a more full street shot. One of the men I work with brought in a book his mother created for her children last year. He is a newly wed and this was a present to his wife. It gave family group sheets on everyone in the family (living) and also the genealogy of the family she had married into. She also gave a certificate to her daughter-in-law to provide 100 hours of research for her to start researching her side of the family. (I thought that was really cool! So now the daughter-in-law and mother-in-law have a hobby they can share and get to know each other in a better way...I have done this sort of in reverse with my mother-in-law who is recently retired and she is having a ball researching her side of the family). Diane Shaw and I have talked about getting together this fall to go visit some older churches in the area. All denominations. I have the 1863 St. Louis Directory and plan to print out the church listings. I think it will be fun to do this (plan to take along disposable cameras) and this could be fun to share. If any of you have some project that you think would be of interest to others on the list or are looking for a "research buddy" feel free to share that with the list. Just make sure to keep this within the guidelines of the rootsweb AUP (acceptable use policy..i.e.: no advertising or selling) and on topic to the Missouri / Metro St. Louis list guidelines. Laura

Jerry, great answer! Joan that is wonderful!!! Just for those who may not have a scanner or are not very computer savvy, I am enclosing some links to sites that deal with preserving photographs. They will be at the bottom of my response. Another thing you might consider with a few of them is to have them "digitally copied" by a photo studio. The digitally copied images can be electronically touched up so you get rid of fading, cracks, tears, etc. This can get costly but if it is really special picture you may want it professionally redone. A cheaper alternative that might have very good results is if you have a techy teen in your family they might also know how to do this. I have done it myself on a few photos in my family. It is time consuming but there might be one or two really special pictures that you want to do this with and then have a few copies made so you can hang one on the wall. Also if you ask for a CD with jpgs of the photos you can email them to all your friends and relatives. One last idea...many of the community schools have photo workshops. It might be a fun class to take! Here are the links I promised. http://www.uni.edu/petersog/icpctip5.html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6662/photopre.htm#clean there is a section about cleaning and preserving in this long text about storing, keeping, cleaning and preserving photos http://www.cyndislist.com/photos.htm Good luck! Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Tichacek" <tichacek@quixnet.net> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: [StL-Metro] Recommendations for Old Family Photos > Joan: > > Scan the original family photos at 600 dpi TIFF (non-lossy large files with > high-resolution to retain detail) and burn the master images onto CD-Rs (700 > MB) and/or DVD-Rs (4.7 GB). Get everybody identified in the photos along > with dates and places and write it on the back of photos so your children > and grandchildren who inherit your photos will know who the people are. You > can always use photo-editing software later to clean up the photos and/or > create JPEGs of your high-resolution TIFF masters as needed to send to > family or for your genealogy software program or screensavers. Display > copies of the photos in your house on the walls, NOT the originals as you > don't want them to fade or be damaged anymore than they already are. Put > the originals in a safety deposit box for safekeeping. With new DVD-editing > software on the market, you can customize your family photo collection > burned on your DVD-Rs to play in a DVD player and display on your TV, HDTV > or big screen. You can also create customized screensavers with JPEG images > of family and ancestors that cycle through photos when your computer is > idle. Designate in your will, living will or estate the trusted relative, > child or grandchild who values you having an interest in genealogy and who > will be the future caretaker of your genealogy stuff and who has enough > brains not to throw away or sell all of your valuable records and personal > belongings after you die. > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan T Kaemmer" <jkaemmer@juno.com> > To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:39 AM > Subject: [StL-Metro] photos > > > Dear List, > > I recently received a treasure in the mail...an old photo album with > photos of my great grandfather's parents and most of his siblings. The > pages in the album are falling out. The photos are glued in. > > Any one have any experience with old photos? I think I would like to > take them out of the album (the album itself isn't that old) and either > frame them or put them in a new album. I experimented with one photo and > it won't be that difficult to remove them from the paper. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > Thanks for your help. > > Joan > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > look. > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=MO-STLOUIS-METRO > >

Joan: Scan the original family photos at 600 dpi TIFF (non-lossy large files with high-resolution to retain detail) and burn the master images onto CD-Rs (700 MB) and/or DVD-Rs (4.7 GB). Get everybody identified in the photos along with dates and places and write it on the back of photos so your children and grandchildren who inherit your photos will know who the people are. You can always use photo-editing software later to clean up the photos and/or create JPEGs of your high-resolution TIFF masters as needed to send to family or for your genealogy software program or screensavers. Display copies of the photos in your house on the walls, NOT the originals as you don't want them to fade or be damaged anymore than they already are. Put the originals in a safety deposit box for safekeeping. With new DVD-editing software on the market, you can customize your family photo collection burned on your DVD-Rs to play in a DVD player and display on your TV, HDTV or big screen. You can also create customized screensavers with JPEG images of family and ancestors that cycle through photos when your computer is idle. Designate in your will, living will or estate the trusted relative, child or grandchild who values you having an interest in genealogy and who will be the future caretaker of your genealogy stuff and who has enough brains not to throw away or sell all of your valuable records and personal belongings after you die. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan T Kaemmer" <jkaemmer@juno.com> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: [StL-Metro] photos Dear List, I recently received a treasure in the mail...an old photo album with photos of my great grandfather's parents and most of his siblings. The pages in the album are falling out. The photos are glued in. Any one have any experience with old photos? I think I would like to take them out of the album (the album itself isn't that old) and either frame them or put them in a new album. I experimented with one photo and it won't be that difficult to remove them from the paper. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks for your help. Joan ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look.

Hi, As I dont have a teen close by, can anyone tell me how one would burn photos onto a cd. I realize a CD/RW unit is needed.I'm looking into getting one as a replacement on my modem for the CD player that came installed.Somebody I know has, a never used IDE unit _Memorex 40x 12x48x w Roxio easy cd Ver.5 Tool Kit, very great deal, as they are upgrading instead to another higer power. Thanks. Nannette Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Dear List, I recently received a treasure in the mail...an old photo album with photos of my great grandfather's parents and most of his siblings. The pages in the album are falling out. The photos are glued in. Any one have any experience with old photos? I think I would like to take them out of the album (the album itself isn't that old) and either frame them or put them in a new album. I experimented with one photo and it won't be that difficult to remove them from the paper. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks for your help. Joan

I agree with only one exception, writing on the backs can bleed through,damage the originals, I scan and use the writing tool and write the info beside / under each photo,then print. Some I have were written on yrs ago by the orig. owners, I like to put the in new Acid free albums with the information on little sm.tab lables with each picture / also number them in a safe spot to reference picture with tabs.Make sure all materials are acid free.I create and put my copies in page covers for each person along with all documents relating to persons.From a scan I cut out and make a collage of each family group also .Alot of work but I like having a person with his family. Nannette Jerry Tichacek <tichacek@quixnet.net> wrote: Joan: Scan the original family photos at 600 dpi TIFF (non-lossy large files with high-resolution to retain detail) and burn the master images onto CD-Rs (700 MB) and/or DVD-Rs (4.7 GB). Get everybody identified in the photos along with dates and places and write it on the back of photos so your children and grandchildren who inherit your photos will know who the people are. You can always use photo-editing software later to clean up the photos and/or create JPEGs of your high-resolution TIFF masters as needed to send to family or for your genealogy software program or screensavers. Display copies of the photos in your house on the walls, NOT the originals as you don't want them to fade or be damaged anymore than they already are. Put the originals in a safety deposit box for safekeeping. With new DVD-editing software on the market, you can customize your family photo collection burned on your DVD-Rs to play in a DVD player and display on your TV, HDTV or big screen. You can also create customized screensavers with JPEG images of family and ancestors that cycle through photos when your computer is idle. Designate in your will, living will or estate the trusted relative, child or grandchild who values you having an interest in genealogy and who will be the future caretaker of your genealogy stuff and who has enough brains not to throw away or sell all of your valuable records and personal belongings after you die. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan T Kaemmer" To: Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: [StL-Metro] photos Dear List, I recently received a treasure in the mail...an old photo album with photos of my great grandfather's parents and most of his siblings. The pages in the album are falling out. The photos are glued in. Any one have any experience with old photos? I think I would like to take them out of the album (the album itself isn't that old) and either frame them or put them in a new album. I experimented with one photo and it won't be that difficult to remove them from the paper. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks for your help. Joan ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== Search the Archive of Messages for MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=MO-STLOUIS-METRO Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

Dear Linda, Try some of the resources available through the St. Louis Public Library: http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Also, Dave Lossos' website for St. Louis (and Missouri) research: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/ Georgia Linda wrote: > Researching Thomas A. Anderson b abt 1810, wife Elizabeth b. abt 1814, > children Fanny, Virginia, Archy, Horace, Thomas, Betty Margaret, Edmonia b. > 1853, living in St. Louis by 1860. > Edmonia married Frank H. Wood (born abt 1848 )in1873 in St. Louis. Their > children: Ada, married ? Gifford; Waldo, married Alice?; Beulah, Bonita, > married Robert McGilaway; Grover Cleveland married Stella Coddington; > Estelle, married Eugene Genail; Frances, married Omer Robb; Frank married > Edith ?; and Hazel. > > Is anyone related, or does anyone know anything about any of these families? > > Thank you, > Linda > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > Climbing my family tree was fun until the nuts appeared.

Researching Thomas A. Anderson b abt 1810, wife Elizabeth b. abt 1814, children Fanny, Virginia, Archy, Horace, Thomas, Betty Margaret, Edmonia b. 1853, living in St. Louis by 1860. Edmonia married Frank H. Wood (born abt 1848 )in1873 in St. Louis. Their children: Ada, married ? Gifford; Waldo, married Alice?; Beulah, Bonita, married Robert McGilaway; Grover Cleveland married Stella Coddington; Estelle, married Eugene Genail; Frances, married Omer Robb; Frank married Edith ?; and Hazel. Is anyone related, or does anyone know anything about any of these families? Thank you, Linda

Aunt Marie was Mutzie. Aunt Juliet was Mooky. Where the names came from I don't know.