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    1. [StL-Metro] Roll Call A-E Surnames
    2. ANDREAS EPPERHART EAPES or CAPES (?) Liz May Fairway, KS

    11/01/2003 07:24:36
    1. [StL-Metro] Brant family
    2. I am searching for a very elusive Brant family who were supposed to have lived in St. Louis. William Brant (Brandt) married Anna Maria Schmidt May 23, 1866. Their son Henry Charles Brant was born was born November 23, 1867. William died in 1869. The family tradition says they married at the Old Cathedral, that his funeral was from there. I have written them twice, once no answer and the second one was no record. I am also looking for a Schmidt family who may have lived in St. Louis for some time but moved on the Moniteau Co. Any help would be appreciated Jackie Brant

    10/31/2003 02:38:19
    1. RE: [StL-Metro] Brant family
    2. The Family History Library Catalog holds the microfilm copies of the church sacramental registers for the Old Cathedral. Cut and paste this rather long URL to get to the listing. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns =*%2C0%2C0&titleno=707913&disp=Church+records%2C+1766-1993++ Ellen jackie500_1@netzero.net wrote: > >I am searching for a very elusive Brant family who were supposed to have >lived in St. Louis. > >William Brant (Brandt) married Anna Maria Schmidt May 23, 1866. Their >son Henry Charles Brant was born was born November 23, 1867. William >died in 1869. > >The family tradition says they married at the Old Cathedral, that his >funeral was from there. I have written them twice, once no answer and >the second one was no record. > >I am also looking for a Schmidt family who may have lived in St. Louis >for some time but moved on the Moniteau Co. > >Any help would be appreciated > >Jackie Brant > > >==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >For tips on researching St. Louis Church Records: http://members.gtw.net/~seamus/churchrecords.htm > > __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

    10/31/2003 11:52:14
    1. [StL-Metro] Re:Cassidy of Kansas
    2. Jackie, Thanks for posting the Cassidy information I continue the research. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    10/31/2003 01:48:08
    1. [StL-Metro] Re: Beckmann
    2. Gloria, Thanks for sending the Beckmann/ Bockrath and Albers possibilities, I'll work these clues into several possibilities to work and leads to others. Bill Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    10/31/2003 01:24:09
    1. [StL-Metro] Cassidy
    2. Jim, this is what I have on a Cassidy family. Taken from the St. John Catholic Church Book, in Clonmel, Sedgwick Co. Ks. Bernard Cassidy was born in 1849 in Ireland. Bernard and his sister emigrated to the U.S. and first settled in Illinois. Working for the railroad meant traveling around a great deal, and while in North Dakota he met his wife, Mary, who was born in 1865. Bernard was transfered to Minnesota and then on to Kansas where he and his family bought a farm west of Clonmel. The couple had six children:, Joseph, Nellie, Peter, Edward (my uncle) Mary, and Cecilia . bernard died in 1922 and Mary died in 1932. There are other Irish families living around Clonmel. And most of them came to Ks. from the Nolan Settlem,ent in Iowa, near Ottumwa. I told Bill some time ago that I would send him this and completely forgot it. Sorry about that. jackie

    10/30/2003 07:23:45
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] A True Halloween Story--1947
    2. Thank you Roy: There were even more haunts in other places around St Louis but they're just too scary to talk about. One was an awful haunt named Sharon who constantly kept me on edge. "Brrrrrr. . ., she was terrible scary."----Jim

    10/30/2003 03:55:02
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] A True Halloween Story--1947
    2. Jim: FABulous!! You surely do know how to tell a story. My wife, Betty Arp, had completed two years of Nurse's training at St. Louis City Hosp before she came to Massachusetts in August 1946, when we were married. She never did tell me how haunted the place was. Roy

    10/30/2003 02:28:44
    1. [StL-Metro] Roll call A - E
    2. l_glenn
    3. Belser, John X, son William Edward Curry, Maggie, born Fitzgerald

    10/30/2003 12:39:29
    1. [StL-Metro] A True Halloween Story--1947
    2. Remember as you read this story that there were six uninvolved witnesses to these events. Today is the day before Halloween and brings back memories of Halloweens past. Halloween 1947 is one of those Halloweens. That was the year Mister Ryan was almost seriously injured in a fist fight over near City Hospital. It was cold, as it always seems to be Halloween night in St Louis, the wind was blowing and if it wasn’t freezing it was very near to freezing. Fifteen minutes in that wind and our cheeks were fiery red. We were living in the Clinton Peabody Projects and getting prepared for trick or treat night. There were six of us, all around the age of twelve. At dark we all gathered at my house in preparation to knock on doors after a party at that church just south of Fourteenth and Lafayette Streets. When all six had mustered we discovered that we were all dressed as Hoboes. But mine was the best costume. My sister Sharon had come up with the idea of using mascara to paint a beard on my face. Girls can be useful sometimes, but not always, I agreed with Mom, thirteen was still to young for girls to be painting their eyelashes no matter what the movie magazines said. This was also the Halloween we discovered a tremendous source of wealth, scraping wax and soap off store windows beginning the day after Halloween. Razor blades, fox tail brooms and elbow grease were the only implements needed and we were rich. How rich you ask? When we divided up into three two man teams we discovered that each team came back with around ninety dollars that evening. We were so wealthy I had a hard time convincing my Mom we had actually earned that much cleaning windows and had nothing to do with robbing little old ladies. She finally believed when I showed her my cut finger from a slipped razor blade and every one of the guys had a matching cut. But back to trick or treat night. We made the party over at the church that evening and had a great time playing the games and entering the contests, eating enough candy to become diabetic and laughed mightily when Clifford Hardesty pushed Sally Medford in the tub where we were bobbing for apples, then laughed even louder when Sally turned a pumpkin upside down on Clifford’s head and he couldn’t get it off. It was a fantastic party. Finally the party ended and it was time to start knocking on doors. But first we had other plans. It was planned that we would build a barricade of junk in the middle of the intersection at Grattan and Park Avenue, right where Malcolm Bliss hospital was. We had stockpiled cardboard boxes and wooden saw horses and other materials too numerous to list. But alas, it wasn’t to be that night, we were side tracked before we even reached our stock pile. I better pause here for a little color of the neighborhood. Malcolm Bliss hospital was a mental hospital that scared the kids in the neighborhood and was attached to City hospital. At night it was a little imposing and dark and all of us were convinced it was as haunted as City Hospital. And I would almost be willing to swear in Court that City Hospital "was, is, and always will be haunted." Shut and lock the doors, bar the windows, tear it down, those haunts aren ’t going anywhere. I can’t remember where I got this report but it proves how haunted and dangerous City Hospital is: GHOSTS & HAUNTS IN MISSOURI HAUNTED LOCATIONS IN ST. LOUIS SOUTH OF HWY 64 St. Louis City Hospital, located at 1515 Lafayette Ave with the cross streets of South 14Th Street to the east and Grattan Street to the west. This hospital was built in 1906 and closed down in 1985. There are many reports of paranormal activity at this abandoned hospital. The paranormal investigators that I have talked to, who have been inside these buildings, state that this location is too dangerous to visit and recommend never going inside. There you have it, proof positive, City Hospital was, is and always will be haunted. Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. I saw a haunt there one time and can’t talk about it, even today. I can talk about Halloween 1947 though. After leaving the church, we were walking west on Lafayette intending to turn north on Grattan when we noticed Mr Ryan walking ahead of us in a most unusual manner. He seemed to be swaying back and forth as he walked and was taking up the whole sidewalk from side to side. We were just passing the front door of City Hospital when Dave said, "there’ s nothing wrong with Mr Ryan he’s just drunk." After a proper amount of laughter at Mr Ryan’s antics we noticed him stop at the southwest corner of the hospital behind a bush for a refreshing pit stop. While watching him we saw a white something float down from the sky, then another, and then two smaller white objects that all seemed to be attacking him. We knew what they were, but could not explain how a ghost could actually fight like those were fighting Mr Ryan, they had him covered and wouldn‘t let him go no matter how hard he fought. We were always told you couldn’t touch a ghost, your hand would just pass through. But Mr Ryan sure was fighting, and he was shouting and cussing like nothing we had ever heard. And I will admit we were to chicken to jump on those paranormal beings. At twelve we didn't even have peach fuzz on our cheeks let alone any hair on our chests. In fact he was shouting and cussing so loud someone inside called the police. When the police got there they pulled Mr Ryan away from those white things right away and saved him from who knew what. Meanwhile inside the hospital, it was learned later, that Sally Medford’s father was a patient and had been hospitalized for food poisoning. Sally later told us that Mr Medford was having terrible problems with diarrhea that evening and couldn’t shout loud enough to get help with his problem and soiled the whole bed. She said he was so sick that he was near death with no one to help him. He laid in bed as long as he could, no where to escape from all that poop, but finally managed to crawl to the window where he threw his sheets and pillow cases out. Then crawled back to bed where he promptly passed out. Meanwhile, back outside on the lawn, the police were struggling with Mr Ryan. "What the hell’s going on Ryan," asked Leary the beat cop? "Can’t you see, you dumb flatfoot?" "See what, all I see is a bunch of dirty sheets laying there. that‘s no reason to be disturbing all those poor sick people with your cussing and shouting." "Yeah, sheets now, that’s because I beat the crap out of the rest of them." And for once poor Mister Ryan lucked out, the cops took off without taking him to jail. I wouldn’t want him in my car either, smelling like that. I’ll end this story with this caution, "Stay away from City Hospital on Halloween night, no matter how inviting all those doors look in the neighborhood. We don‘t want a ghost to get you."

    10/30/2003 11:54:45
    1. [StL-Metro] Bouncing Messages
    2. Bill and Lisa Kemp
    3. We are not alone...maybe it has something to do with that pesky mass of incandescent gas that is a gigantic nuclear furnace (the sun)? Greetings from GOPUSA! You have reached the newslist@gopusa.com mailing list. Messages to you from the newslist mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. Lisa Farrand Kemp "Farrand Families of Missouri and Illinois" http://pookie-baby.tripod.com/Farrand2000/index.html Rootsweb Posting http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=speshelkay

    10/30/2003 11:42:50
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] A-E roll call
    2. AHNERT, Charles and Wilhelmina from Mt. Olive, Ill. Charles was in the Union Army and died in 1901. Wilhemina died in 1922. BECKMAN(N) Fred Born in Missouri, died in St. Louis, Missouri. Parents Fred and Caroline

    10/30/2003 11:39:07
    1. [StL-Metro] A-E roll call
    2. Audrey Muehlberg
    3. ALLEN Bartholomew b .c1850 Ireland St. LOuis 1860 m. TIERNAN, Sarah St. Louis CAPPELLE. Virginia grdaughter of Bartholomew DUFFEY, from so. Illinois to St. Louis EAGAN m. TIERNAN Audrey arm@htc.net

    10/30/2003 09:31:24
    1. [StL-Metro] Surnames
    2. Eugene E Vanacek
    3. Here is mine! Fohrell Biar Eisel Thanks

    10/30/2003 09:09:32
    1. [StL-Metro] Teriffic
    2. Thanks a lot Gloria: I had not seen any of this before, I'm hoping Bill can figure this out. However, I do know that Overbeck family and will show Christine when she comes down here next month. You were great for doing this research for us.----Jim ------------------------------------------------------------- Jim and Bill, I was looking in the St. Joseph Church (Shrine of) records yesterday and found several Beckmann folks but didn't write any info on them. I did find a couple of Overbeck folks: Overbeck, Maria Teresia born 20 July 1861; Dau of Herrmann and Maria Tresina BOCKRATH. Sponsors: Gerard Henr. ALBERS and Maria Teresia Bockrath. Overbeck, Hermann husband of Adelheid Died 31 Oct 1858, buried 1 Nov 1858 Age 71y --------------------- Also on this page of deaths there are the following of possible interest: Johanna Wilhelmina SEVING wife of Carl (Charles) Friederich BECKMANN. Died 6 Sep 1858, buried 7 Sep 1858; 45y. Philip son of Francis Bockrath died 9 Nov 1858, buried 10 Nov 1858 Age - 11y Catharina BLECKMANN wife of Heinrich Kornet (Also seen as Cornet). Died 5 Oct 1858, buried 6 Oct 1858; Age 27y. Maybe she should be a Beckmann? Hope this little bit helps. Gloria

    10/30/2003 06:34:33
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] Help
    2. Jim and Bill, I was looking in the St. Joseph Church (Shrine of) records yesterday and found several Beckmann folks but didn't write any info on them. I did find a couple of Overbeck folks: Overbeck, Maria Teresia born 20 July 1861; Dau of Herrmann and Maria Tresina BOCKRATH. Sponsors: Gerard Henr. ALBERS and Maria Teresia Bockrath. Overbeck, Hermann husband of Adelheid Died 31 Oct 1858, buried 1 Nov 1858 Age 71y --------------------- Also on this page of deaths there are the following of possible interest: Johanna Wilhelmina SEVING wife of Carl (Charles) Friederich BECKMANN. Died 6 Sep 1858, buried 7 Sep 1858; 45y. Philip son of Francis Bockrath died 9 Nov 1858, buried 10 Nov 1858 Age - 11y Catharina BLECKMANN wife of Heinrich Kornet (Also seen as Cornet). Died 5 Oct 1858, buried 6 Oct 1858; Age 27y. Maybe she should be a Beckmann? Hope this little bit helps. Gloria

    10/30/2003 05:13:40
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] An organized roll call for surnames beginning with A - E
    2. ALBERS - The children of Joseph Heinrich Albers (nee Niehaus): Fred H. ALBERS - Born 18 Dec 1854, Germany (probably Visbeck). Wife-Gesina KUETERS. Died-17 Apr 1945, St. Louis Frank ALBERS - Born 29 Nov 1859, Visbeck, Germany. Married Anna Elizabeth SCHADE, 1890, St. Louis. Died 10 Aug 1945, St. Louis. Mathias ALBERS - Born 4 Oct 1861, Germany. Died abt 1886, St. Louis Henry ALBERS - Born 25 Feb 1866, Germany. Died bef. 1945, St. Louis Joseph ALBERS - Born 16 Jun 1875, Germany. Died aft. 1945, St. Louis BERNHARDT John BERNHARDT - Born 1853, St. Louis. Parents:Frederic Bernhardt and Marie Elizabeth GROBE. Married Elizabeth BROCKARD abt 1879. Died Feb 1928. Children: Mary L., Theresa K., Josephine G., Frances A., Anna L., Celia J., Helen C., Irene, and Richard J. Susan

    10/30/2003 05:13:33
    1. RE: [StL-Metro] Microsoft Patch Message
    2. Gina
    3. www.symantec.com VBS.Paspec@mm is a mass-mailing worm that sends itself using Microsoft Outlook. The email will have an attachment named Patch.exe.bat. Type: Zoo Worm Systems Affected: Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Me Systems Not Affected: Macintosh, OS/2, UNIX, Linux This appears to be a virus! Gina -----Original Message----- From: jeanb [mailto:jeanb@tranquility.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:25 PM To: MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [StL-Metro] Microsoft Patch Message Has anyone else received a message from Microsoft that says: "Dear friend , use this Internet Explorer patch now! There are dangerous virus in the Internet now! More than 500.000 already infected!" It has an attachment named patche.exe. I was wondering if it is a spam/virus or if it is legit?? Thanks. Jean Tomorrow is another day. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you are researching the Irish in St. Louis, you might want to have a look at Diane Shaw's websites: http://members.gtw.net/~seamus/Irshnstl.htm and http://members.gtw.net/~seamus/KerryPatch.htm

    10/29/2003 12:53:33
    1. [StL-Metro] Help
    2. If you have read the "McQuillen Saga," you will remember there was a story about the ladies in North St Louis who were very entertained by all the commotion near the Hogan gang's headquarters. I have stumbled across a nugget that I am trying to develop and need more help. Our own resident authority on cemeteries in St Louis and I have talked about some of his family members but cannot find the info I need. I blushingly admit his family is a little more sedate than mine. Can anyone help us with info on the following names? Buchholz, Cassidy Beckmann Even the minutest piece of info would be helpful.----Jim

    10/29/2003 06:04:23
    1. Re: [StL-Metro] Microsoft Patch Message
    2. Never do anything like that without checking with Microsoft first. It sounds like a scam.

    10/29/2003 02:58:22