If you receive a statement from the St.Louis Dept of Records with only a service date ex: because many were lost to fire...Would a local V.A. have any more data on the deceased? I'd like to get my fathers service records to see where all he was & ranks from 1937-1955. Nannette Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing

I remember "Pete Gray and Bill Veek." (Veek as in wreck) 1. Do you remember which arm Pete Gray was missing? 2. Which side of the plate did he bat from? 3. What did his stance look like? 4. What did he do with his glove when he threw the ball? 5. Did he ever walk from right field? Ahhh, the days of the STL Browns were grand and Brownie Boosterhood was Supreme. No matter they didn't win all the time, They belonged to us.----Jim

Memo to Bob Doerr. I remember Franz Laux well. Now, don't forget Harry Carey, who at one time announced Cardinal games and those of that other illustrious team of the the "Trolley Series", the Browns. Do you recall Chet Laabs, Pete Gray, Eddie Gaede, and Bill Veek? George in sunny Florida

Are there any list members who have a Robert Carlisle Byrne on their family tree? He was married to Sarah Carter 1865 and lived in Putnam, Tennessee until he moved the family to St Louis sometime between 1880 and 1885. Robert and Sarah had twelve children, two of which would be born in St Louis. 1885 and 1888. The family would have lived very near the Savis Center in the 1880s and 90s on Fourteenth Street, about the 400 block. Their oldest daughter, Sinie, would marry George W. McQuillen in 1885 in STL. Where did they all go when they reached STL? I am approaching the wall at breakneck speed with no idea where to swerve. Help!!!----Jim

Greetings, Everyone! The St. Joseph marriages list has been updated on Dave Lossos' site: <A HREF="http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/">Genealogy in St. Louis</A> Thanks to Laura Bozzay for proofreading them and to several others for their input as well. These records are a challenge to say the least. The database has been checked, rechecked and checked again but I'm sure you can find a mistake. All umlauted names have been retained once in each record with the probable English form in brackets. This was done to keep the flavor of the records and to hopefully make the names more findable. Below is Laura's suggestion for searching the page. Thanks, Laura. If there is a question mark contained in the record, it means this was my best guess as to the spelling of the name. As Gary would say - Good hunting! You can email me if you have questions. Gloria > To search within the listings, if you are running IE: > Select edit from your tool bar. > Select "Find on this Page" > A query box will open. Enter the surname you want to find. > Press OK. > The query will take you to each successive listing of anything that contains > what you typed in. > So if you are looking for Hoffman or Hoffman you can enter Hof and you will > get Hof, Hoff, Hoffman, Hoffmann, etc. >

Hi Joan sent me the Turnverein data and in it I found the name Laux. That reminded me... Now, y'all, who remembers Franz Laux, the voice of the St. Louis Cardinals? And popular disk jockey Rush Hughes? (Hitch-hiking, I caught a ride with him from Kansas City to St. Louis in 1945.) Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks

Hi Karen You might want to try the following web site, they have records for O'Fallon newspapers, http://www.ofallonhistory.org/index.shtml If you contact them they are very helpful. I have received a lot of information from them over the years. John Aramowicz aramweb@arach.net.au Perth, "Sunny All The Time" Western Australia Researching; Aramowicz, Alexander, Monroe, Adams and Pelo Our Home Page http://www.arach.net.au/users/aramweb/

This is a great write up about how to search the RootsWeb Archives. Joan is one of the major helps for those of us who administer lists. She gave us permission to share this with our list...so here it is! By the way, to go directly to the archives for our list: a.. MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L searchable archives a.. MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L threaded archives Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung.... Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [LO] Checking the Archives > For more information on how the browseable and searchable list archives can > be used effectively you might want to check this out and maybe share it with > your lists (from the RootsWeb Review Oct. 9, 2002): > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/20021009.txt > > Buried Treasures at RootsWeb: Mining the Mailing Lists Archives. > The RootsWeb Mailing Lists archives contain the content of years of > discussion that have been carried on among researchers of the subject > matter of these various Mailing Lists. Thus buried in these archives > could be some treasures that might benefit you in your quest to learn > more about your ancestors. Someone at another time -- perhaps years ago > -- might have posted just the information you seek today. > > Because the Mailing Lists archives' content is not included in the > metasearch results when you type in a surname on the main RootsWeb page, > a specialized search to find the treasures in the Mailing Lists archives > must be conducted. Such searches may result in finding some sparkling > gems pertaining to your genealogy that you will not discover elsewhere. > > The archives of the individual Mailing Lists are both browseable and > searchable from two separate RootsWeb archives. Most Mailing Lists at > RootsWeb are archived. The Threaded (browseable) Archives is at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > and the Interactive Search (searchable archives) is located here: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Both of these links -- Interactive Search and Threaded Archives can also > be found under the Mailing List section on RootsWeb's Home Page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > In the Threaded Archives, responses to an original message are displayed > attached to the message to which they are replying in an outline format > with responses indented from the original message. Thus you can follow > an entire subject of discussion by tracing through a thread of messages > in the archives. Browsing the Threaded Archives also benefits new > Mailing List subscribers who may want to get a feel for the list before > posting to it or wish to check out whether their ancestors have > previously been discussed. It also aids current Mailing List members by > enabling them to check messages they might have missed while on > vacation, during e-mail delivery problems, or because of a computer > crash. > > Starting at the Threaded Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ type in > the Mailing List name of your choice to access an index page showing > each month and year included in that particular list's archives. View an > outline of the subjects of all messages posted to the Mailing List > within a given month (including the poster's name and date posted, if > desired) in either threaded (the default) or chronological order. Click > on a subject of interest to view the full text of the message. > > The Interactive Search located here: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > allows you to search a single Mailing List one year at a time by marking > the appropriate radio button. (Radio buttons are round circles which > represent choices within an list of options on a form.) Select a > keyword, name, or phrase to obtain results matching your search > criteria. The Interactive Search supports some Boolean operators (AND, > OR, ANDNOT) to help you establish the most effective searches to suit > your needs. Boolean expressions are used extensively by Internet search > engines. > > By default, your searches will include every field in a message, but you > may narrow down your results by specifying that you want your search to > apply only to matches in a specific field. In the following examples all > Boolean operators are shown in capital letters while all search criteria > are shown lowercase. This is for explanatory purposes only -- as both > are case insensitive. > > You may search for john OR smith by using the OR operator. You will > obtain all messages containing either the word John or Smith. However, > if you search on "john smith" or john+smith the results will only yield > instances where the words John and Smith appear in that exact sequence. > The use of quotes or a plus sign creates a complete phrase. Searching > for john AND smith (using the AND operator), or john smith (with a > single space separating John and Smith) will yield results where John > and Smith appear somewhere in the message, but not necessarily side-by- > side. > > The ANDNOT operator may also be used as follows: john ANDNOT smith which > would yield all messages where the word John was found unless the > message also included the word Smith. > > Grouping search criteria and the applicable operators within parentheses > will permit more complex searches. For example, (sarah AND jones) OR > (john AND smith) will yield results where Sarah AND Jones OR John AND > Smith appear somewhere in a message but the words are not necessarily > side-by-side. > > Searching on a specific message field, such as searching for all > messages posted to a list by a specific poster during a year, is > accomplished by typing in the search criteria: from/johndoe@anyisp.net > Only the "from" field will be searched. If you are looking for a > specific thread and you know the subject or partial subject you wish to > locate, you may opt to search the "subject" field only, as follows: > subject/"john smith in ohio" -- note that double quotation marks are > used to tie the entire phrase together when you are searching for more > than a single word. The phrase in quotation marks must match the > subject, or a portion of the subject, exactly to return a hit. > > You may search for all messages posted on a given day without specifying > a field but you must use quotation marks to tie the phrase together. For > example: "02 may 2002" will get all messages posted on May 2, 2002 and > "22 may 2002" will get all messages posted on May 22, 2002. Searching on > "may 2002" will yield all messages posted within the month of May 2002, > and searching on 2001 will result in getting all messages posted to the > list for the entire year. > > Interactive list searches support trailing wildcards only (wildcards > coming at the end of a word). Use an asterisk * to represent zero or > more unknown or variable letters at the end of a word after you have > specified a minimum of at least the first letter. Interactive list > searches work on whole words and not strings of letters. In other words, > if you search for john and a message includes johnson it won't come up > in your results -- but if you search on john* it will. > > One benefit of the searches applying to words rather than strings of > letters is that a search on sy will pick up the given name or surname Sy > but will not yield words which include the string "sy" such as the word > "easy". > > Exploring the Mailing Lists Threaded Archives and using the Interactive > Search capabilities in creative ways may reward you with some previously > buried genealogical treasures. > > Joan

Dear Karen, When I need an obit/death notice, I look for a public library in the area and contact the reference staff. If they cannot help, I ask if they can recommend either a genealogical or historical society. I also ask the names of the local/main newspapers for the area. If there is no society that can help, I ask my local reference librarian to see if they can find a source for the newspapers (assuming that they were microfilmed) and request that the film be ordered. I first use the following to find a library: http://www.publiclibraries.com/ If that doesn't work, I just use the search engine <google.com> and try to find a library. Here's one for O'Fallon: http://www.ofallonlibrary.org/ List of societies for Illinois at rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb/society.htm I might also post a query on the rootsweb board for that county asking about where to get an obituary. Georgia Karjac@aol.com wrote: > A friend from PA has asked my help in finding an obit for a woman who died in > IL. According to the SSDI, Belle (sometimes Isabelle) Walker, born: 17 Feb > 1894, died Sep 1983. Last residence O Fallon, Saint Clair, IL. > > Would the St. Louis paper have obits from 1983 for people who lived in O > Fallon? Any ideas? > > Thanks for any help. > Karen > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, email MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L-request@rootsweb.com; in the subject line, put only the word UNSUBSCRIBE with nothing in the message body. You can contact Michelle or Laura at MO-STLOUIS-METRO-admin@rootsweb.com.

A friend from PA has asked my help in finding an obit for a woman who died in IL. According to the SSDI, Belle (sometimes Isabelle) Walker, born: 17 Feb 1894, died Sep 1983. Last residence O Fallon, Saint Clair, IL. Would the St. Louis paper have obits from 1983 for people who lived in O Fallon? Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Karen

Been off enjoying turkey & six grandchildren--their folks, not withstanding!! Have a few surnames: Rickmann, Luke, Herye & Bellew Adolph J Rickmann b abt 1874 in Germany M Flora Bertha Luke they had Ralph F (1902) George W (1909) Ralph Married Lillian Dorothy Herye they had Flora Rickmann (1939) and she married Frank Elmer Bellew (1938) on December 21, 1957 They had Susan, Flora Martha & Frank Michael, our son-in-law. Gots lots of holes------anyone able to fill in any/some? Thanks Bill Houdek also looking at Missouri names: Dampf, Hamilton, Schineider, Anderson among others.

I am researching the family names OUHRABKA/AUHRABKA. I believe that the family emigrated from Semily, Bohemia (now Czechoslovakia) between 1852 and 1854, probably through New Orleans. It appears that the family was led by Josef AUHRABKA, born in 1804 in Bohemia, died in St. Louis August 27, 1882. He brought with him his six sons - Franciscum, Josef, Anna, Johan, Charles, Adalbert, and Aloisius. There are records of the family at St. John of Nepomak church, including a confirmation in May, 1854, and many marriages and christenings. Later in the 1880's, many of the sons and grandsons changed their name to ORABKA. There are also records of the family name in New Orleans, perhaps the offspring of a brother of Josef AUHRABKA, who remained in New Orleans when they emigrated. I have a lot of information which I would be happy to share. Nancy of Los Angeles

My grandfather was named Thomas Fitzhugh JOHNSON, born abt 1880-1885. He married Leona Duckworth in 1906 and died in 1915 of pneumonia. He had a younger brother named Charlie, who later moved to Texas and lived to be 102. The family rumor was that he came from South America, but I have been unable to make any headway in locating him due to the common name "Johnson". Nancy from Los Angeles

Dear Margaret, If you went to this website: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/1930.htm You would have had to click on "Street Index" which would take you to: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/1930streets.htm Maffitt is listed as being in D10 on the 1930 map. And Howard ST. as being in G9 Then go back to http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/1930.htm And click on the appropriate box to find the street. Once you find the street, look around to find street names that are listed as the boundaries for the various wards. If you went to Paulette Morris' Ward boundaries, it would give the streets which defined the boundaries but it would not include all the streets within the boundaries. For that you would need a map, preferably an older map like the 1930 map. If you used the current St. Louis map, streets have been renamed and expressways have taken out some streets. Did I answer your question or are you now more confused? Are you looking for an enumeration district for the census? Have you found them on the soundex? If you have not used the soundex, the St. Louis Public Library has the 1880, 1900, 1910 and 1920 soundexes/miracode for Missouri. You can request that they look up your names. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Cllick on item # 5 for what's available and item 13 to email them. Georgia Marcotz4@aol.com wrote: > I have Christian Koelling (my gggfather) on 4284 Maffitt Avenue in > the 1910 Census with his family and at 2706 Howard St in the 1900 > census. I went to the web page that you had given to someone for > street finders but neither one of these streets > were listed. > Would appreciate any help!!!! > Margaret in NC Marcotz4@aol.com

I did not see this in our archive and the address is not showing as a list member. I am forwarding to the list and contacting the individual. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winnefred A, Lesandrini" <kellykid07@worldnet.att.net> To: <MO-STLOUIS-METRO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} ROLL CALL K AS IN KELLY > I am looking for information on a JOHN J. KELLY, born in St. Louis 1872, son of Andrew J. Kelly and Margaret Hines. He was my uncle and he is not buried in the Kelly plot in Calvary. He was in the 1880 cenus, 8 years old and in a 1884 city directory he is a clerk living at 411 Anna. > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Freddie Lesandrini > >

Fiske families

Researching: KLIPSCH, Frank (b. 11/19/1875 in Weisskirchen, Austria-Hungary) - Married Josephine KRESS (Gress) (b. 3/2/1878 in St. Louis, MO) married on 08/07/1895 in Kirkwood, MO, then moved to St. Louis, MO. RUNGE, Elmer (b. circa 1880) - Married Nell LAMB (b. circa 1883 in St. Louis, MO) married in St. Louis, MO, circa 1903. Diane T. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now

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Various articles in the 20 Feb 1876 Globe Democrat. Baseball - Brown Stockings vs. Empire. Grand Ave & Park, 3 o'clock. 25 cents (Now they'd just be getting ready to go to Florida - St. Louis in February - what perfect baseball weather!) Mr. George Partridge, President of the StL Provident Association reiterates that the Association will be obliged to stop unless it receives immediate aid. Oscar Holton, an ex-policeman was arrested Saturday for the alleged theft of 29 pounds of butter worth $8.70 belonging to Fred Erke of 23rd and O'Fallon Sts. Holton has been arrested before in consequence of his predilection for the butter-tubs. He was committed to jail yesterday. Six $2.50 shirts for $9. Wiggan's slaughter sale 219 5th St. AT ST. BERNARD DOLLAR STORE 406 N. 4th Men and boys felt hats A splendid towel rack Large Pearl card cases, new Bronze, footed and porcelain lamps 4 pair ladies white Balbriggan hose Splendid silver plated butter dishes Carved Walnut frames with stencil gold linings Large lava Cigar Box, smoking stand or Smoking set A set of ebony or bone-handled Knives and forks All, at our standard price of One Dollar Situations Wanted - Females (love the wordings) Wanted - A place as second girl for a number-one German girl who has been with me five years. Address F. Goodwin care Letter carrier Wm. Amos Help Wanted - Females Wanted - A competent girl to do general housework - 3 miles west of Court house. Must be able to milk a cow, and be kind to children, to whom good wages will be paid. Apply to Mrs. Letitia Taylor, corner of Cook and Vandeventer Help Wanted - Males Wanted 40 families, 50 farm hands, to work land on shares or wages. Fare $14.25 Call immediately. Texas German Land and Emigration Bureau, 1612 Carondelet Ave. For Rent - 614 and 621 N. Fifth St. Comfotably furnished front rooms; $12 to $20 per month Coal - 9 cents per bushel at D. MacDonald's, 409 Olive ICE - receiving Three Special trains daily of Iowa ice, 15 to 20 inches thick. For sale, cheap in round lots. Jas. A. Smith at 817 N. 7th St. (Why Iowa?) WINCHESTER'S HYPOPHOSPHITE Of Lime & Soda A prompt and certain cure for Consumption, Weak Lungs, Chest and Throat Affliction, Dyspepsia and General Debility. Thoroughly tested for perfect success; $1 and $2 per bottle. Prepared only by Winchester & Co., Chemists and sold by all druggists (had to look this one up - it's any salt of hypophosphorous acid - it's used in Electroless nickel plating!) Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ (formerly Kirkwood, Webster)