The CRINNIONs owned some property on Green Street at 20th in 1860s. They were stone and brick masons in the 1850-1910 era. I have never been able to find it on Mapquest but that would explain it if Union Station was built there. Ellen CRINNION, MORAN, HOULIHAN, HUNT "Elizabeth Gerber" <[email protected]> wrote: >So I asked for list-help with this question in 2003. Now I have found out that my info was slightly >askew. My ancestor worked at a brickyard that was where they built Union Station. > >How can I find out what brickyard might have existed in the 1850s/1860s/1870s around the >Market/18th/Clark/20th area ? > >So far Directories for the ancestor have only listed where he boarded; not where he worked. >Any leads would be greatly appreciated !! >Elizabeth > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:33 PM >Subject: RE: [StL-Metro] Terminal RR Assoc. of St. Louis >Hi list- On a slightly related but tangential subject, how would I find out which brickyard(s) built Union Station? I checked the Union Station website & the Terminal RR Assnwebsite, but no luck. Any of you wise folks know? Thanks- E > > > >==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Hi Elizabeth: Found no evidence of a brickyard that far east using the 1875 StL Piictorial. I would agree that Cheltenham area would probably be your best bet. The clay to make brick was taken from the Cheltenham/Fairmount/Sulpher Springs area (in the area of the first Pacific RR Station) starting in the 1840s and became the prime source of brick used after the Great Fire of 1849. Per "Lion of the Valley," English Quakers started digging there about 1840. You mention Union Station - prior to this 1896 [?] station, there was the 'Union Depot' located at 12th & Poplar. Where did he board? See "The Clay Mines and Factories in Cheltenham/Dogtown . . ." (and all of St. Louis) by Lois Schmidt http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/dogtown/history/schmidt/schmidt4.html Good hunting Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Gerber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: RE: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Old St Louis brickyards > So I asked for list-help with this question in 2003. Now I have found out > that my info was slightly > askew. My ancestor worked at a brickyard that was where they built Union > Station. > > How can I find out what brickyard might have existed in the > 1850s/1860s/1870s around the > Market/18th/Clark/20th area ? > > So far Directories for the ancestor have only listed where he boarded; not > where he worked. > Any leads would be greatly appreciated !! > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:33 PM > Subject: RE: [StL-Metro] Terminal RR Assoc. of St. Louis > Hi list- On a slightly related but tangential subject, how would I find > out which brickyard(s) built Union Station? I checked the Union Station > website & the Terminal RR Assnwebsite, but no luck. Any of you wise folks > know? Thanks- E > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 > >

The only brickyards that I know about back then were the ones out off manchester road or Cheltenham rd my folks worked in those brick yards pat yes ask the library down town bet they can help you pat

Dear Elizabeth, Check the business section of the City Directories for brick yards. If you do not have access to the city directories, contact the St. Louis Public Library. http://www.slpl.lib.mo.us/libsrc/geneinfo.htm Georgia Elizabeth Gerber wrote: > So I asked for list-help with this question in 2003. Now I have found out that my info was slightly > askew. My ancestor worked at a brickyard that was where they built Union Station. > > How can I find out what brickyard might have existed in the 1850s/1860s/1870s around the > Market/18th/Clark/20th area ? > > So far Directories for the ancestor have only listed where he boarded; not where he worked. > Any leads would be greatly appreciated !! > Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:33 PM > Subject: RE: [StL-Metro] Terminal RR Assoc. of St. Louis > Hi list- On a slightly related but tangential subject, how would I find out which brickyard(s) built Union Station? I checked the Union Station website & the Terminal RR Assnwebsite, but no luck. Any of you wise folks know? Thanks- E > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]

Sorry for the confusion about the Gale website, folks. I checked it and got in and then sent the message to the list. I didn't know that the offer was going to expire the same day I posted it to the list. I did continue to get through using a cached copy of the page until they actually changed the password. While I was in there, I got some info from an on line book about Kentucky. Gale is the company that offers Ancestry Plus to libraries. Their resources are not exactly the same as Ancestry has for its home users. I have used Ancestry at home and not found certain directory listing and then used Ancestry Plus at the library and found more directory listings than were available through Ancestry at home. So, if you are not checking Ancestry at your library because you have it at home, you might want to use the library's version as well. The two resources are much the same, but not exactly the same. Diane Shaw Hillsboro, MO

So I asked for list-help with this question in 2003. Now I have found out that my info was slightly askew. My ancestor worked at a brickyard that was where they built Union Station. How can I find out what brickyard might have existed in the 1850s/1860s/1870s around the Market/18th/Clark/20th area ? So far Directories for the ancestor have only listed where he boarded; not where he worked. Any leads would be greatly appreciated !! Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: RE: [StL-Metro] Terminal RR Assoc. of St. Louis Hi list- On a slightly related but tangential subject, how would I find out which brickyard(s) built Union Station? I checked the Union Station website & the Terminal RR Assnwebsite, but no luck. Any of you wise folks know? Thanks- E

The free week ran out on Saturday the 16th. Mike Flannigan <[email protected]> wrote: It still didn't work for me, and I don't think it is a cache problem, because I tried 3 different browsers. Mike > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Re: Gale website is free-temporarily > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:54:09 -0400 > From: "Andrew Davis" > To: [email protected] > > Yes it will. I had the same problem. Make sure you hit the proceed button with the mouse instead of hitting enter. If you hit the enter key they include that into the password you entered. So it would like you put the password as graphics +(enter) instead of just the word graphics. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] Many would be scantily clad if dressed in their own humility. HUGS HUGS HUGS

I was curious if someone who lived in that area could take a few pictures of some houses. They used to be my family's back in the late 1800's and early 1900's. ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Edgar<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves I found LEE in Webster Groves, close to Rock Hill Rd. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Doerr" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves >I lived in Webster Groves in the 1930s and was a letter carrier in Webster > Groves in the 1940s and recall no Lee. > > Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:45 AM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves > > >> Does anyone here live near a street named Lee in Webster Groves? I am > trying to find out if there are some old houses still standing there. If > so > please email me. Thank you! >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/>) you might want to take a > look. > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Read about it here: http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/04/free_access_to_.html Diane Shaw

I lived in Webster Groves in the 1930s and was a letter carrier in Webster Groves in the 1940s and recall no Lee. Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves > Does anyone here live near a street named Lee in Webster Groves? I am trying to find out if there are some old houses still standing there. If so please email me. Thank you! > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > >

I found LEE in Webster Groves, close to Rock Hill Rd. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Doerr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves >I lived in Webster Groves in the 1930s and was a letter carrier in Webster > Groves in the 1940s and recall no Lee. > > Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:45 AM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Lee Webster Groves > > >> Does anyone here live near a street named Lee in Webster Groves? I am > trying to find out if there are some old houses still standing there. If > so > please email me. Thank you! >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] >> >> >> > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > look. > >

Does anyone here live near a street named Lee in Webster Groves? I am trying to find out if there are some old houses still standing there. If so please email me. Thank you!

What is this month's password. R.Steffen -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fisher <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:17:05 -0400 Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Gale Group-password graphics They say this is the wrong password -- enter this month's password.. which isn't graphics. S. Fisher ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look.

It still didn't work for me, and I don't think it is a cache problem, because I tried 3 different browsers. Mike > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Re: Gale website is free-temporarily > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:54:09 -0400 > From: "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Yes it will. I had the same problem. Make sure you hit the proceed button with the mouse instead of hitting enter. If you hit the enter key they include that into the password you entered. So it would like you put the password as graphics +(enter) instead of just the word graphics.

It was free till April 16 Robert Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:They say this is the wrong password -- enter this month's password.. which isn't graphics. S. Fisher ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look. Many would be scantily clad if dressed in their own humility. HUGS HUGS HUGS

They say this is the wrong password -- enter this month's password.. which isn't graphics. S. Fisher

I have tried 6 times and still can't get in it said wrong password and I used the mouse and I am on DSL. Pat McDevitt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Gale website is free-temporarily > http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial > > The password is graphics. > > Check out Virtual Reference Library for on line books, etc. > > > Diane Shaw >

_http://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html_ (http://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html) I thought this might be interesting.

Yes it will. I had the same problem. Make sure you hit the proceed button with the mouse instead of hitting enter. If you hit the enter key they include that into the password you entered. So it would like you put the password as graphics +(enter) instead of just the word graphics. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Flannigan<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Re: Gale website is free-temporarily It won't work it you have dial-up. Mike On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial<http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial> > > The password is graphics. > > Check out Virtual Reference Library for on line books, etc. > > > Diane Shaw ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

It won't work it you have dial-up. Mike On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, [email protected] wrote: > http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial > > The password is graphics. > > Check out Virtual Reference Library for on line books, etc. > > > Diane Shaw