Gloria - Thanks for the fast return. Great information I will include this in my information on the family. Thanks again. Do you know if the lodge has a e-mail address? Later Gene Vanacek - San Antonio, TX. On Mon, 9 May 2005 05:02:34 EDT [email protected] writes: > The “C.S.P.S.” Cesko-Slovanské Podporující Spolecností > ( Bohemian Slavonic Benevolent Society ) > The “C.S.P.S.” or Cesko-Slovanské Podporující Spolecností > was founded in St. > Louis, Missouri on March 4th, 1854. The founders of this society > were the > early Czech immigrants, who’s brethren had fled the revolts and > political > oppression of the 1840s and 1850s. This group was comprised mostly > of farmers > and laborers with limited skills and poorly educated since School > attendance > was not yet mandatory in the Slavic Kingdoms. These > founding > fathers of the C.S.P.S. were intent on forming a Organization to > provide assistance > to their countrymen in times of illness, and care for the widows and > orphans. > This organization would also develop into an important avenue for > the local > Czech community to meet socially and discuss problems of mutual > concern. > ==== > I did a search on Slovan Lodge No. 1 C.S.P.S. and got the above. > http://my.execpc.com/~hkralik/ > Gloria > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, > send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] or if you are on the Digest > List [email protected] > >

The “C.S.P.S.” Cesko-Slovanské Podporující Spolecností ( Bohemian Slavonic Benevolent Society ) The “C.S.P.S.” or Cesko-Slovanské Podporující Spolecností was founded in St. Louis, Missouri on March 4th, 1854. The founders of this society were the early Czech immigrants, who’s brethren had fled the revolts and political oppression of the 1840s and 1850s. This group was comprised mostly of farmers and laborers with limited skills and poorly educated since School attendance was not yet mandatory in the Slavic Kingdoms. These founding fathers of the C.S.P.S. were intent on forming a Organization to provide assistance to their countrymen in times of illness, and care for the widows and orphans. This organization would also develop into an important avenue for the local Czech community to meet socially and discuss problems of mutual concern. ==== I did a search on Slovan Lodge No. 1 C.S.P.S. and got the above. http://my.execpc.com/~hkralik/ Gloria

Hi Gene: You didn't mention the year. The Slovaks/ Czechs started coming to StL about 1865-70. Most didn't stay but there is a Slovak community there.Unfortunately, there is a lot of source information but it hasn't been translated, per an article by Tim Fox - "Where the Czech's Are is my Home." Suggest you contact: American Czech Educational Center 4690 Landsdowne StL 63116 or call 314-752-8168 Good hunting Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Notes from Diane > Hi - Received a Death Notice yesterday from the St. Louis Public Library > and in the information said " Member of Lodge Slovan No.1 C. S. P. S.. > Does anyone have any information on this lodge and what the letters mean? > Thank you in advance. Gene from San Antonio, TX. "GO SPURS GO" > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > >

Hi Ranee: Seems like I haven't "seen" you in a while? Personally, I'm simply interested in Kamphoefner's speech since he will speak on the history of the German presence in StL. The question is - which speech will he give - why they left - the journey - the settlement, etc.? Thanks Gary Stoltman STOLTMAN/STOLTMANN ----- Original Message ----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted St Louis Germans > For those of you who are sending these emails (like the ones below) to the > list, you reference your German ancestors in St Louis, but you don't tell > us WHO THEY WERE! Very tantalizing but no help at all in solving brick > walls. > Try putting your ancestors names in CAPS after your signature, or in the > subject line of your email--that way, we can all spot some out-of-the-area > "kinfolks" when they show up! > Thanks! > Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis > Researching: BRADER/BREDER, von GERICHTEN, KIDD, KINSKI, KRAMME, LAVELY, > PFEIFFER, URBAN. > > Gary Stoltman <[email protected]> wrote: > List: > > Me too! I don't know anyone at the County library. Thanks > > Gary Stoltman > Mercerville, NJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marge langan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:41 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted > > >> This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's >> speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I >> live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is >> there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All >> my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very >> much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay >> for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send >> only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or >> if >> you are on the Digest List [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 >> >> > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > look. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > >

Hi - Received a Death Notice yesterday from the St. Louis Public Library and in the information said " Member of Lodge Slovan No.1 C. S. P. S.. Does anyone have any information on this lodge and what the letters mean? Thank you in advance. Gene from San Antonio, TX. "GO SPURS GO"

I am also interested. Hubby's St. Louis Germans are: WEYER, KELLERSMANN, DITTMEIER, KLEEKAMP, KOPP. Thanks, Margie Fuller in Iowa -----Original Message----- From: Gary Stoltman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Fw: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted List: Me too! I don't know anyone at the County library. Thanks Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "marge langan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted > This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's > speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I > live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is > there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All > my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very > much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay > for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]

I, too, would like to obtain a copy of Dr. Kamphoefner's speech. Hopefully someone will determine how to do this. Jacquie (researching Albert, Biermann, Schlueter and Reid in St Louis) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marge langan" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:41 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted > > >> This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's >> speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I >> live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is >> there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All >> my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very >> much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay >> for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send >> only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or >> if >> you are on the Digest List [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 >> >> > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > look. >

For those of you who are sending these emails (like the ones below) to the list, you reference your German ancestors in St Louis, but you don't tell us WHO THEY WERE! Very tantalizing but no help at all in solving brick walls. Try putting your ancestors names in CAPS after your signature, or in the subject line of your email--that way, we can all spot some out-of-the-area "kinfolks" when they show up! Thanks! Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis Researching: BRADER/BREDER, von GERICHTEN, KIDD, KINSKI, KRAMME, LAVELY, PFEIFFER, URBAN. Gary Stoltman <[email protected]> wrote: List: Me too! I don't know anyone at the County library. Thanks Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "marge langan" To: Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted > This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's > speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I > live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is > there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All > my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very > much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay > for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]

Jim: I work close to those neighborhoods, and you should be okay if you go during the day. The morning is usually better because the real troublemakers are not out yet. But I would not be there at night. I work in Fairgrounds Park and am white and female. The Kossuth Address is probably a rebuilt neighborhood, the original houses are probably not there. The Gano address is pretty run down, but not too dangerous. If Robin is on the east side of Calvary Cemetery, it is pretty nice. If it is on the west side, I would be more careful. St. Louis Avenue is experiencing a whole lot of rebuilding. There may be a lot of empty lots about the 4200 block. Farlin is probably in a pretty well kept up section. Sullivan Avenue is just south of Fairgrounds Park, but that is farther east than I usually travel. The Pope address is in a pretty stable neighborhood. Hope this helps. Marsha

Yeah I would stay clear entirely of neighborhoods like that. I have always never felt safe in those kinds of areas. I have been lucky that most of my ancestors houses that are still up from the St. Louis area are in Webster Groves. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Housing in St. Louis Jim, I see some addresses that I recognize. The neighborhood around Sarah and Natural Bridge is not one where I would suggest you go knocking on doors! I drove by my gm's house (4029 Labadie) and it was a shambles, boarded up. Across the street were burned-out ruins. My cousins were appalled that we had gone there! I left in 1943 (4133 West Lexington) and my father fled to Normandy soonafter. Ellen "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >I have never actually been to St. Louis so I don't know if my advice would be the best but here it is anyways. I would go during the day because that is always safer than the night. I would also bring copies of any older pictures you have of the house. Then knock on the doors and let the people living there now know who you are and give them the copies for their own enjoyment and to show that you aren't a lunatic. Then ask them if they mind if you take a photo of their house. That is what I always do. I have had some even invite me inside to take photos of the rooms. I usually decline that though for safety reasons. Most people are always interested in seeing old pictures and hearing stories of their houses. In fact I am in contact with several people who live in houses my ancestors used to. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Weisheyer<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:03 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Housing in St. Louis > > > Dear List Members, > > I am visiting St. Louis for a few days in June and I > hope to take as many pictures as I can of the houses > my family lived in prior to 1960. I haven't been to > some of these addresses since the 1950s and I don't > know if the neighborhoods are considered safe. Is > anyone familiar with these address to know whether it > would be safe to take pictures during the day? > > 1723 North 13th Street > 4281 Farlin Avenue > 2038 East Gano Avenue > 1315 Sullivan Avenue > 4212 St. Louis Avenue > 5532 Robin Avenue > 8617 Mora Lane > 4608 Pope Avenue > 4137a West Kossuth Avenue > > Thank you, > Jim in Florida > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail Mobile > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail<http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail<http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail<http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail>> > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/>>) you might want to take a look. > > > >==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register<http://isp.netscape.com/register> Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp<http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/>) you might want to take a look.

Jim, I see some addresses that I recognize. The neighborhood around Sarah and Natural Bridge is not one where I would suggest you go knocking on doors! I drove by my gm's house (4029 Labadie) and it was a shambles, boarded up. Across the street were burned-out ruins. My cousins were appalled that we had gone there! I left in 1943 (4133 West Lexington) and my father fled to Normandy soonafter. Ellen "Andrew Davis" <[email protected]> wrote: >I have never actually been to St. Louis so I don't know if my advice would be the best but here it is anyways. I would go during the day because that is always safer than the night. I would also bring copies of any older pictures you have of the house. Then knock on the doors and let the people living there now know who you are and give them the copies for their own enjoyment and to show that you aren't a lunatic. Then ask them if they mind if you take a photo of their house. That is what I always do. I have had some even invite me inside to take photos of the rooms. I usually decline that though for safety reasons. Most people are always interested in seeing old pictures and hearing stories of their houses. In fact I am in contact with several people who live in houses my ancestors used to. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Weisheyer<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:03 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Housing in St. Louis > > > Dear List Members, > > I am visiting St. Louis for a few days in June and I > hope to take as many pictures as I can of the houses > my family lived in prior to 1960. I haven't been to > some of these addresses since the 1950s and I don't > know if the neighborhoods are considered safe. Is > anyone familiar with these address to know whether it > would be safe to take pictures during the day? > > 1723 North 13th Street > 4281 Farlin Avenue > 2038 East Gano Avenue > 1315 Sullivan Avenue > 4212 St. Louis Avenue > 5532 Robin Avenue > 8617 Mora Lane > 4608 Pope Avenue > 4137a West Kossuth Avenue > > Thank you, > Jim in Florida > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail Mobile > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail<http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail> > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/>) you might want to take a look. > > > >==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

I have never actually been to St. Louis so I don't know if my advice would be the best but here it is anyways. I would go during the day because that is always safer than the night. I would also bring copies of any older pictures you have of the house. Then knock on the doors and let the people living there now know who you are and give them the copies for their own enjoyment and to show that you aren't a lunatic. Then ask them if they mind if you take a photo of their house. That is what I always do. I have had some even invite me inside to take photos of the rooms. I usually decline that though for safety reasons. Most people are always interested in seeing old pictures and hearing stories of their houses. In fact I am in contact with several people who live in houses my ancestors used to. ----- Original Message ----- From: James Weisheyer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Housing in St. Louis Dear List Members, I am visiting St. Louis for a few days in June and I hope to take as many pictures as I can of the houses my family lived in prior to 1960. I haven't been to some of these addresses since the 1950s and I don't know if the neighborhoods are considered safe. Is anyone familiar with these address to know whether it would be safe to take pictures during the day? 1723 North 13th Street 4281 Farlin Avenue 2038 East Gano Avenue 1315 Sullivan Avenue 4212 St. Louis Avenue 5532 Robin Avenue 8617 Mora Lane 4608 Pope Avenue 4137a West Kossuth Avenue Thank you, Jim in Florida __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail<http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/<http://genealogyinstlouisaccessgenealogy.com/>) you might want to take a look.

Listers, The announcement below may be of interest to members of this list. Bob Emnett ************ St. Louis Genealogical Society announces its first "St. Louis Research Institute" for those researching their St. Louis, Missouri, ancestors. The institute is a five-day intensive research experience of all the excellent facilities in the St. Louis metropolitan area with the assistance of genealogical research professionals. The research dates are 1 through 5 August 2005, with an opening reception on Sunday 31 July. Lectures will be held at the St. Louis Genealogical office, with the opening and closing receptions at the St. Louis Frontenac Hilton Hotel where a group of rooms have been blocked for this event at a special rate of $99 per day single or double occupancy. To maximize the benefit to the attendees, the Research Institute is limited to the first 25 registrants. Fee for the Institute is $300 for members and $350 for non-members before 1 July. For more information, a description of the program, and a registration form, please go to the Society Web site, www.stlgs.org, or you may call the Society office at 314-647-8547 on Tuesdays, Thursdays, or Saturdays between 9 a.m. and noon, CDT.

Dear List Members, I am visiting St. Louis for a few days in June and I hope to take as many pictures as I can of the houses my family lived in prior to 1960. I haven't been to some of these addresses since the 1950s and I don't know if the neighborhoods are considered safe. Is anyone familiar with these address to know whether it would be safe to take pictures during the day? 1723 North 13th Street 4281 Farlin Avenue 2038 East Gano Avenue 1315 Sullivan Avenue 4212 St. Louis Avenue 5532 Robin Avenue 8617 Mora Lane 4608 Pope Avenue 4137a West Kossuth Avenue Thank you, Jim in Florida __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail

Probably not, The state did not require death certificates until 1910. Donna

List: Me too! I don't know anyone at the County library. Thanks Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "marge langan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Uprooted or Transplanted > This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's > speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I > live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is > there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All > my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very > much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay > for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.5 - Release Date: 5/4/2005 > >

This is in response to the annoucement of Dr. Walter D. Kamphoefner's speech scheduled for June 25th at the St Louis County Library. Because I live in New York and unable to attend this presentation I'm inquiring "Is there any way those of us out of state can get copies of his speech? All my family including myself are Germans from St Louis and would like very much to be able to obtain a copy of his talk. I would be willing to pay for such a copy. Could anyone help me with this request? Thank-you Marge

Would a 1904 death certificate issued from the city of St Louis also be on file in Missouri's state capital, Jefferson City? Thank you. Sue Moyer

In a message dated 05/04/2005 10:31:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Casseopia (f) Cassi, Cassia, Cassis, Opie,Sopia Cassey - see Cassandra, Cassie Cassi (f) see Cassandra, Casseopia, Cassie, Catherine Cassia (f) see Casseopia, Cassidy, Keziah Cassidy (f) Casidhe, Cass, Cassia, Cassie, Kassidy, Kassie Cassie (f) Acacia, Caroline, Casimira, Cassandra, Casseopia, Cassidy, Catherine, Cassey, Cassi, Casey, Kassey, Kassi, Kassie, Kassy \ So - I s'pose you can looking for naming patterns, or else just take your pick! From Nancy Ellen Carlberg's book. T. Maureen Schoenky Thank You! There was a Catherine in the family so it must have been she that wrote the Will and signed it Cassiah.......mystery solved! Mary T/IL

Casseopia (f) Cassi, Cassia, Cassis, Opie,Sopia Cassey - see Cassandra, Cassie Cassi (f) see Cassandra, Casseopia, Cassie, Catherine Cassia (f) see Casseopia, Cassidy, Keziah Cassidy (f) Casidhe, Cass, Cassia, Cassie, Kassidy, Kassie Cassie (f) Acacia, Caroline, Casimira, Cassandra, Casseopia, Cassidy, Catherine, Cassey, Cassi, Casey, Kassey, Kassi, Kassie, Kassy \ So - I s'pose you can looking for naming patterns, or else just take your pick! From Nancy Ellen Carlberg's book. T. Maureen Schoenky