Jim, Also try zabasearch.com for Vie listings.

In a message dated 7/10/2005 8:07:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Pat: > > A young lady in California got in touch and we have discovered that her > grandfather and my grand uncle were in the same units in WW-1. We will be trading > info when I get back from Missouri.----Jim > wonderful what a GREAT THING TO HAPPEN TO A NICE GUY I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU thanks pat

Does Kansas City have a rootsweb list so you can subscribe and try to find the lady through the list? Betty Torno ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] looking for Vie > hanks Mary.----J > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] looking for Vie > > > Jim, if you are trying to find the person in Kansas City researching the Vie > family I suggest you write the Family History Centers in the area and ask them > to put your message on their bulletin board. I have been to a couple of the > centers and I checked their boards myself. Also there are kansas city > genealogy message boards online and it might be worth a try to put your message > there. Kansas city has a genealogy group called heart of america genealogical > association I believe the name is - you might write them to see if they could put > your message in their newsletter. > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]

Jim, if you are trying to find the person in Kansas City researching the Vie family I suggest you write the Family History Centers in the area and ask them to put your message on their bulletin board. I have been to a couple of the centers and I checked their boards myself. Also there are kansas city genealogy message boards online and it might be worth a try to put your message there. Kansas city has a genealogy group called heart of america genealogical association I believe the name is - you might write them to see if they could put your message in their newsletter.

Jim have you checked Dave Lossos site genealogy in st louis? you can check obits from his site for all the "Vie" listed in obits at one time There are quite a few listed then ask the library to look for the surname VIE in what ever years you need they will make copies and send them to you What a bargain and everyone at the library is so nice and try to be helpful good luck pat [email protected] wrote: >Jim Just cannot seem to locate that old notes >sorry >pat > > >"JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>Pat: >> >>I will love you forever if you can find that info.----Jim >>  ----- Original Message ----- >>  From: Patricia Sulzer<mailto:[email protected]> >>  To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:31 PM >>  Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records >> >> >>  Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE >>  I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her >>  If I remember more will let you know >>  I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis >>  the ones I found in city directories >>  pat >> >>  JAa MES O BRASHER <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>  My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. >> >>  For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. >> >>  My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. >> >>  At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. >> >>  The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. >> >>  The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim >>  ----- Original Message ----- >>  From: Nannette >>  To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM >>  Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records >> >> >>  You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. >>  I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. >>  Nannette >> >>  "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > wrote: >>  Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: >>  Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. >>  He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. >>  I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. >>  I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. >>  Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis >> >> >>  ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >>  If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >>  Nannette >> >>  Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. >> >> >> >> >> >>  --------------------------------- >>  Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. 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Jim Just cannot seem to locate that old notes sorry pat "JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]> wrote: >Pat: > >I will love you forever if you can find that info.----Jim >  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: Patricia Sulzer<mailto:[email protected]> >  To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:31 PM >  Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > >  Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE >  I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her >  If I remember more will let you know >  I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis >  the ones I found in city directories >  pat > >  JAa MES O BRASHER <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >  My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. > >  For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. > >  My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. > >  At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. > >  The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. > >  The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim >  ----- Original Message ----- >  From: Nannette >  To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM >  Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > >  You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. >  I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. >  Nannette > >  "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > wrote: >  Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: >  Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. >  He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. >  I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. >  I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. >  Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis > > >  ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >  If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > >  Nannette > >  Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. > > > > > >  --------------------------------- >  Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. 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Pat: A young lady in California got in touch and we have discovered that her grandfather and my grand uncle were in the same units in WW-1. We will be trading info when I get back from Missouri.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records Jim Just cannot seem to locate that old notes sorry pat "JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >Pat: > >I will love you forever if you can find that info.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia Sulzer<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > > Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE > I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her > If I remember more will let you know > I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis > the ones I found in city directories > pat > > JAa MES O BRASHER <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. > > For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. > > My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. > > At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. > > The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. > > The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nannette > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > > You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. > I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. > Nannette > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>" > wrote: > Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: > Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. > He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. > I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. > I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. > Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > Nannette > > Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. 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hanks Mary.----J ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] looking for Vie Jim, if you are trying to find the person in Kansas City researching the Vie family I suggest you write the Family History Centers in the area and ask them to put your message on their bulletin board. I have been to a couple of the centers and I checked their boards myself. Also there are kansas city genealogy message boards online and it might be worth a try to put your message there. Kansas city has a genealogy group called heart of america genealogical association I believe the name is - you might write them to see if they could put your message in their newsletter. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc.(in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Earl, This does not answer the question about your greatgrandfather and I suspect you know some or most of it, but below is what I found in the book, Florissant, Missouri, by Rosemary Davison. (There were no Mundy's -- any spelling -- or McAltoon listed in the index of the book.) I know Rosemary who is in her 80's and still working, volunteering, and advocating -- Here is a link to the Florissant Valley Historical Society, which has more info on Taille de Noyer -- _http://www.florissantoldtown.com/tailledenoyer.shtml_ (http://www.florissantoldtown.com/tailledenoyer.shtml) On another web site, I found this e-mail address for the Florissant Valley Historical Society: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) I dont' know if it's still current. Quotes from Rosemary's book follow my name. Peggy Kruse Florissant, MO [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Picking up in the middle of a story about Taille de Noyer, a home in Florissant.... On April 23, 1978, the senior Deshetres received from the Spanish government a grant of four hundred arpents of land including the plantation known as La Taille de Noyer.....On August 20, 1804, he sold Taille de Noyer to George Gordon, an early settler of Creve Coeur. John Mullanphy purchased the plantation on December 23, 1805, for $600 in peltry.... Included in the Historic American Buildings Survey and listed on the National Register of Historic Places, the nomination form gives this history [below] of Taille de Noyer and the Chambers family. Mullanphy, a native of County Fermanegh in Ireland, came to America in 1792. He went into business in Philadelphia and later in Baltimore In 1799 he moved to Frankfort, Kentucky, where he opened a bookstore and outfitted a schooner for West Indian trade. In 1804 he was encouraged by Charles Gratiot a prominent St. Louis businessman to come to St. Louis. He came shortly after the Louisiana Purchase. His knowledge of the French language that he learned during his service in the Irish Army in France and his keen business ability, gave him a great advantage over the simple French settlers. He began buying up small and large tracts of land from the French owners. In 1805 he bought from Franois Dunnegant two forty-arpent lots in St. Louis and Lot C on which Dunnegant had built his house in Florissant. From Joseph Robidouix he purchased 1,150 arpents in the north St. Ferdinand Common Fields. He became one of the largest landholders in St. Louis County. During the War of 1812, speculating in cotton, he became Missouri's first millionarie. He was active in political life, was instrumental in bringing the Sisters of Charity to administer the first hospital in St. Louis. He provided a house and land to the Sisters of the Sacred Heart to bring education to the young girls of the St. Louis area. His interest in Florissant started with land purchases but grew as time passed. In 1820 he offered to build a State House at his own expense if it would be located in Florissant. Taille de Noyer was used as a hunting lodge and trading post according to family tradition. The commandant's house on rue St. Charles was a part-time residence and also home for the Trappist Monks for one year. In 1820 he gave $1,000 toward the building of the new Church of St. Ferdinand. Until it ceased to be a parish church in 1955, the two front pews were reserved for Mullanphy descendants and twice ayear a mass was said in their name for his generous donation. In 1817 Mullanphy's daughter Jane married Charles Chambers, an Irishman, living in New York. To encourage them to live in the St. Louis area he gave them Taille de Noyer for $1.00 with love and affection. In 1819 Jane and Charles, with their first of seventeen children, moved into the commandant's house to await the completion of the homestead at Taille de Noyer--a summer kitchen, smoke house, stable, corn crib, and other necessary buildings. In May of 1820 they moved into Taille de Noyer turning a wilderness cabin into a working farm. The log cabin was slowly enlarged with an inheritance from Charles' father and a settlement of the Mullanphy estate. Charles frequently wrote to his father in New York and would tell him of his building plans. It seems that each time a new child was born a new room would be added to Taille de Noyer. The descendants of Jane and Charles Chambers remained at Taille de Noyer for 140 years. .... In a message dated 7/9/2005 5:19:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: am trying to confirm who John Mullanphy's siblings were and perhaps nieces and nephews. My GG grandfather Phillip Monday/ Munday/Mundy aka Phillip McAloon was a native of Co. Fermanagh, born near Roslea. He was first married to Catherine Mullanphy and they lived in Florissant as early as 1820. They had three children all baptized at St. Ferdinand Church. At the time of or just after Catherine died about 1824, Phillip moved to Richwoods, Washington Co. MO. He had frequent dealings there with John Mullanphy of that community who was married to Hester Masterson. The presence of Phillip and Catherine in Florissant at the same time THE John Mullanphy was active in the same community is too much for coincidence. This other John Mulanphy is tantalizing as well. I have to believe that Phillip's Catherine was related to John Mullanphy of fame. There is a Catholic History of St. Louis that relates that John Mullanphy brought a number of Irish to Florissant about 1819-1820 in a tenant farming scheme. He was hoping to improve the lot of his impoverished countrymen it seems. I believe this may be how Phillip and Catherine came to Florissant. I know that a lot of Mullanphy/Mullanophy/Mullanaphy people live in the Florencecourt and Derrylin area today, and indications from the scant historical records that exist show that those names were common in that area for many years. Mullanphy is not a common name in Ireland. But alas I have been unable to find much on the family of the famous John Mullanphy, Thanks, Earl Mundy [email protected]

Well, my contact is Gary Lee Bailey - his father Almer Robertson BAILEY married into my CASE line, making Gary my cousin... Anyway, he only knew that his grandfather was also Almer BAILEY, but no one knows where the Robertson came from. Not his mother, as she was a TAYLOR. Almer R. BAILEY was born in Hart, Oceana County, Michigan and married my Elaine Eleanor CASE, who was born in Ludington, Mason County, Michigan. All of their children were born in Muskegon, Muskegoa County, Michigan. That's my line, and I'm stickin' to them. I have to. They're family! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Hanneken" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Roll Call > Lisa, > > I am always interested! My grgrgrandfather was Stephen J. Bailey. He > also went by James Bailey. He was born in England sometime around 1820. > I do not know when he came to the U.S. On his marraige certificate at > Sts. Mary and Joseph it states that his father was also Stephen J. Bailey > and his mother was Anna Maria (Ann Mary or Mary Ann?) Smith. His wife was > Elizabeth Scheuer. His children were Mary Frances, Josephine, Stephen J., > John or James, Timothy, & Ann. > > Any Thing? > Diane > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if > you are on the Digest List [email protected] > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005

A few years ago, I phoned the VA hoping they might have my father's number. I provided information from his death certificate, which included his SSN, and the gentleman provided his Service Number in seconds. My dad was just the average WW II SSgt. with the 8th Air Force, not a lifer or famous for anything. It was an 800 phone number listed in some usual place, like online. I was amazed. Pam Smith

The Military Records Center on Page recently opened to the public (by appointment only, as I understand it). It's probably deluged now, but things should calm down as the newness wears off. Cordially, Betty Torno ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nannette Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > Exactly, even though St.Louis had a fire ....Computers were being used & > records are to be gotten,,,they told my ex-husband the same of his VietNam & > now have awarded him a purple heart & whatever the 2nd x they get & Found > his records & increased his pension!!. > I will give him a call for he knows where to contact. > Nannette > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > > > My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the > > folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are > > talking about. > > > > For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" > > family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due > > to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were > > destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. > > > > My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, > > Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The > > youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was > > destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and > > died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. > > > > At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather > > Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of > > information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the > > country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver > > and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the > > Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers > > Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street > > in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not > > been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. > > > > The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred > > lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. > > > > The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at > > NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nannette<mailto:[email protected]> > > To: > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > > > > > You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will > > most likely have this. > > I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a > > medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this > > helps a little. > > Nannette > > > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this > > information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather > > is buried there. The listing states: > > Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 > > 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. > > He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two > > years. > > I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they > > got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, > > other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th > > Dist/MO. > > I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, > > do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited > > info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. > > Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis > > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] otsweb.com> > > or if you are on the Digest List > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] otsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > Nannette > > > > Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham > > STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: > > Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. 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Exactly, even though St.Louis had a fire ....Computers were being used & records are to be gotten,,,they told my ex-husband the same of his VietNam & now have awarded him a purple heart & whatever the 2nd x they get & Found his records & increased his pension!!. I will give him a call for he knows where to contact. Nannette ----- Original Message ----- From: "JAMES O BRASHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the > folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are > talking about. > > For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" > family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due > to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were > destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. > > My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, > Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The > youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was > destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and > died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. > > At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather > Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of > information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the > country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver > and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the > Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers > Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street > in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not > been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. > > The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred > lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. > > The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at > NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nannette<mailto:[email protected]> > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records > > > You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will > most likely have this. > I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a > medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this > helps a little. > Nannette > > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this > information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather > is buried there. The listing states: > Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 > 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. > He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two > years. > I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they > got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, > other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th > Dist/MO. > I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, > do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited > info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. > Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > or if you are on the Digest List > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > Nannette > > Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham > STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: > Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > or if you are on the Digest List > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > look. > >

I am trying to confirm who John Mullanphy's siblings were and perhaps nieces and nephews. My GG grandfather Phillip Monday/ Munday/Mundy aka Phillip McAloon was a native of Co. Fermanagh, born near Roslea. He was first married to Catherine Mullanphy and they lived in Florissant as early as 1820. They had three children all baptized at St. Ferdinand Church. At the time of or just after Catherine died about 1824, Phillip moved to Richwoods, Washington Co. MO. He had frequent dealings there with John Mullanphy of that community who was married to Hester Masterson. The presence of Phillip and Catherine in Florissant at the same time THE John Mullanphy was active in the same community is too much for coincidence. This other John Mulanphy is tantalizing as well. I have to believe that Phillip's Catherine was related to John Mullanphy of fame. There is a Catholic History of St. Louis that relates that John Mullanphy brought a number of Irish to Florissant about 1819-1820 in a tenant farming scheme. He was hoping to improve the lot of his impoverished countrymen it seems. I believe this may be how Phillip and Catherine came to Florissant. I know that a lot of Mullanphy/Mullanophy/Mullanaphy people live in the Florencecourt and Derrylin area today, and indications from the scant historical records that exist show that those names were common in that area for many years. Mullanphy is not a common name in Ireland. But alas I have been unable to find much on the family of the famous John Mullanphy, Thanks, Earl Mundy [email protected]

Hi I noticed your contribution re St Louis history on the Fermanagh messageboard. Thought you might be able to assist me in my search for relatives in that city.Recetly I've begun to research the background of my surname --Crudden.I'm aware that some of the famliy emigrated to the US in the 19th century.However I think it may not have been until 1900 or later that some of the Cruddens reached St Louis.I would be interested to know if you have encountered that name in your research in that region and/or are you aware of any descendents currently living there. The name is quite uncommon and it's likely that most of the peoplle with that name are related going back to Fermanagh/Monaghan in the 17th century. Crudden can sometimes be written as Cruden Thanks for your kind attention Edward Crudden [email protected]

Lisa, I am always interested! My grgrgrandfather was Stephen J. Bailey. He also went by James Bailey. He was born in England sometime around 1820. I do not know when he came to the U.S. On his marraige certificate at Sts. Mary and Joseph it states that his father was also Stephen J. Bailey and his mother was Anna Maria (Ann Mary or Mary Ann?) Smith. His wife was Elizabeth Scheuer. His children were Mary Frances, Josephine, Stephen J., John or James, Timothy, & Ann. Any Thing? Diane

Pat: I will love you forever if you can find that info.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Sulzer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her If I remember more will let you know I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis the ones I found in city directories pat JAa MES O BRASHER <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Nannette To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. Nannette "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > wrote: Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. 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I am looking' LOL JAMES O BRASHER <[email protected]> wrote: Pat: I will love you forever if you can find that info.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Sulzer To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her If I remember more will let you know I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis the ones I found in city directories pat JAa MES O BRASHER > wrote: My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Nannette To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. Nannette "[email protected]" > wrote: Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! 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My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Nannette<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. Nannette "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> or if you are on the Digest List [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Jim several years ago I corresponded with a lady from the Kansas City area who was researching the name VIE I remember because I believe I looked at city directories for her If I remember more will let you know I may be wrong but seems to me they were in a business in St Louis the ones I found in city directories pat JAa MES O BRASHER <[email protected]> wrote: My buddy Nanette is correct; you need his Service number to be sure the folks at the records holding area out on Page Blvd know who you are talking about. For the past five years I have been working on getting info on my "Vie" family records and have been told repeatedly that they did not exist due to a great fire in 1973 in which all the records for this time period were destroyed. This turned out to be not so true. My grandmother, Mabel Vie, had two brothers, the oldest of the two, Oliver, was killed in action in the Marne Valley of France in 1918. The youngest brother, Archie, was gassed in the very same battle and was destroyed for life but survived in the VA hospital in Danville, IL and died in 1966, he was placed in the hospital in 1921. At the beginning of this year I contacted my Congresswoman, Heather Wilson, and strange things started to happen. Small bits and pieces of information have been reaching me from all sorts of obscure parts of the country. One piece that has reached me that I did not know was that Oliver and Archie had a first cousin, named Fred Vie who was also killed in the Marne Valley. Both Oliver and Fred have their names inscribed at Soldiers Memorial on the Marble Tomb on the rotunda at the memorial on Pine Street in downtown St Louis. There is one final Vie name on the tomb that has not been identified yet, but who knows, maybe it will be one of my Vies. The two Vie brothers lie at rest at Jefferson barracks, their cousin Fred lies at rest in a family cemetery plot elsewhere in St Louis. The Point is: Don't accept a "No information" answer from those folks at NARA. Keep searching, the info is there somewhere.----Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Nannette To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Military Records You will need to get his service number to start,Jefferson Barracks will most likely have this. I was not able to get much info.on my grt.gf.WW1 service,but I did get a medal,& MHS just sent me what they had for him & his brother. Hope this helps a little. Nannette "[email protected]" > wrote: Can anyone give me some directives on what to do next with this information? I found on the Jefferson Barracks website that my grandfather is buried there. The listing states: Von Gerichten, Philip: b 03/31/1869, d 01/29/1950. US Army PVT. Plot: 71 0 424D, bur. 02/01/1950. He died at the VA Center, Leavenworth, KS, where he had been for two years. I remember as a 7-yr old going to the funeral (and wondering how they got that big flag folded into such a little triangle). That's all I know, other than the funeral book which says Philip was buried by the VFW 11th Dist/MO. I don't have enough information to request military records from NARA, do I? I downloaded the 180 but hesitate to send it in with the limited info above; I'm not sure how to proceed from here. Any help appreciated. Ranee in Kirkwood/St Louis ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] Nannette Reasearching Surnames: WARFIELD Mitchell McConnell HEUGELE Rowbotham STIENECKE Summerman VanGels Berger COLLINS DUNNAVANT PARRISH . States: Md,Mo.,WV.,Wi. --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List [email protected] ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a look. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.