Ok I tried to respond to the person who asked about this - only to get an automated response that they are not accepting any emails except those on their list - this is very irritating! It is a one time reply and I have no interest in filling out a request to be allowed to send them mail. If you ask for help on these lists - please be courteous enough to set your email so you can RECEIVE it.

No, they were not Catholic. The parents are buried in St. Peters Cemetery on Lucas and Hunt road. The children I am looking for are Lillie Ellen ,Samuel W, Harry and Margaret Wilson. Their parents Samuel & Elizabeth (lizzie) Wilson. Thanks Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Stoltman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Childrens Home > Hi Pat: > > 1300 N. 22nd would have been about Mullanphy/Cass. St. > > Charles Rock Rd. was/is the County extension of the city's Easton Ave. > (now MLK) and is not near the 1300 N. 22nd address, i.e., this Home was > not in their 'neighborhood'. > > There was a German Protestant Orphans Home between Hanley & Lackland & > StCR Rd. at North & South Rd. There is a 1900 census for the Home > available but would obviously need their name. > > However, nearby your gg-grands was the German St. Vincent Orphan's Home > (Roman Catholic) at 1421 Hogan. This converts to roughly 18th & Cass. > > Do you know their religion? > > Gary Stoltman > Mercerville, NJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia mcdevitt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:03 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Childrens Home > > >> My Great grandparents both died in 1900. They [email protected] 1300 N 22nd the >> children were put in a Children's Home because there was no one to take >> them. My Grandmother said they were in the home located at Lackland & St. >> Charles Rock Road. I was unable to locate them listed their. >> >> I am not sure where N 22nd was. Does anyone have any other idea where >> else they might of put the children? >> >> Pat in Fl >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the >> utility address [email protected] If you are >> trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address >> but change the -L- to a -D- >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 >> >> >

Hi Pat: 1300 N. 22nd would have been about Mullanphy/Cass. St. Charles Rock Rd. was/is the County extension of the city's Easton Ave. (now MLK) and is not near the 1300 N. 22nd address, i.e., this Home was not in their 'neighborhood'. There was a German Protestant Orphans Home between Hanley & Lackland & StCR Rd. at North & South Rd. There is a 1900 census for the Home available but would obviously need their name. However, nearby your gg-grands was the German St. Vincent Orphan's Home (Roman Catholic) at 1421 Hogan. This converts to roughly 18th & Cass. Do you know their religion? Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia mcdevitt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Childrens Home > My Great grandparents both died in 1900. They [email protected] 1300 N 22nd the > children were put in a Children's Home because there was no one to take > them. My Grandmother said they were in the home located at Lackland & St. > Charles Rock Road. I was unable to locate them listed their. > > I am not sure where N 22nd was. Does anyone have any other idea where else > they might of put the children? > > Pat in Fl > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address [email protected] If you are trying > to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but > change the -L- to a -D- > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 > >

My Great grandparents both died in 1900. They [email protected] 1300 N 22nd the children were put in a Children's Home because there was no one to take them. My Grandmother said they were in the home located at Lackland & St. Charles Rock Road. I was unable to locate them listed their. I am not sure where N 22nd was. Does anyone have any other idea where else they might of put the children? Pat in Fl

What is the fee for obtaining a copy of birth record from the City of St. Louis for the year 1905? I have a form which states $10; is the address still P O Box 14702, St. Louis 63178? Please email to me directly, as I am having some problems getting my postings to the web site. Thank you Laura [email protected]

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,605153189,00.html This is great news. I found this info on another list and thought I would pass it along. Diane Shaw

This note is from the Dogtown list - Bob Corbett. Diane Folks, This coming Wednesday night Channel 4 at 7 PM will air a new film on Forest Park called: MAINTAINING THE GLORY. This was made for Forest Park Forever, I presume as a fundraiser. This seems to me that it will be an important film. As you all know from what you've read on this list, whether it is you yourself reporting, or you just hearing so many others of us report, Forest Park is a shinning gem right now. It is one thing to undertake a phenomenally expensive rehabilitation -- which has been mainly finished now -- and another to have the funds necessary to MAINTAIN it. These things do need tending. But, in giving Forest Park Forever a chance to appeal to your desire to keep the park what it is now, you are likely to get a marvelous view of what it is now in its shinning glory. This Wednesday, 7 PM, Channel 4. Bob Corbett

wonder how out of towners or out of state viewers can see thanks pat Diane <[email protected]> wrote: This note is from the Dogtown list - Bob Corbett. Diane Folks, This coming Wednesday night Channel 4 at 7 PM will air a new film on Forest Park called: MAINTAINING THE GLORY. This was made for Forest Park Forever, I presume as a fundraiser. This seems to me that it will be an important film. As you all know from what you've read on this list, whether it is you yourself reporting, or you just hearing so many others of us report, Forest Park is a shinning gem right now. It is one thing to undertake a phenomenally expensive rehabilitation -- which has been mainly finished now -- and another to have the funds necessary to MAINTAIN it. These things do need tending. But, in giving Forest Park Forever a chance to appeal to your desire to keep the park what it is now, you are likely to get a marvelous view of what it is now in its shinning glory. This Wednesday, 7 PM, Channel 4. Bob Corbett ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

From another List: ==== This is good news for those of us who use the LDS records for family research. They are planning a massive undertaking to make all of their records available via internet ... free. It won't happen overnight, but it is exciting news. You can read about it at the following web address. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,605153189,00.html

Click here: Built St. Louis: The Moolah Temple Moolah Temple 3821 Lindell St. Louis, MO 63108 (Map this address with Yahoo! Maps) The Moolah Temple was built in an Arabic and Moorish style of architecture in 1912. The 90,000 square foot building had been vacant since 1988. The renovation contains 40 apartments; rents range from $750 for a one bedroom to $1750 for a two bedroom with a den. Improvements also include a theatre, residential, and a bowling alley. A new parking garage directly behind the temple provides 850 parking spaces in a three-story facility on a 40,000 square foot parcel of land. The garage is designed to facilitate parking availability for both SLU persons as well as users of the renovated theater. The theatre is unique in that much of the seating is leather sofas with patrons choosing to bring in drinks from the bar. Developer Amrit & Amy Gill Owner Amrit & Amy Gill Architect Trivers and Associates Square Footage 88,590 Project Cost $ 42,000,000 Funding Source(s) State Historic Tax Credits, Federal Historic Credits, TIF Status Completed

Dear Bill, Thanks for the information. Georgia bhoudek wrote: > Moolah Temple is one of 191 Temples of the Ancient Arabic Order of the > Nobles of the Mystic Shrine---in other words, a Shrine Temple. The Shriners > operate 22 Hospitals for Children at no charge to the child or parent. They > spend about 1.6 million dollars a day in this philanthropic endeavor. Sorry > for the seemly blatant commercial, but could not restrain myself in > answering her question. > > Bill Houdek > Ballwin, MO > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Georgia Clark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:30 PM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July > > > I do have a question for those who live in St. Louis or have lived > > there. What is the Moolah > > (?) Temple? > > > > Georgia > > > > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a > > look. > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D-

I graduated 1946 from Central High School with one of my best and friendliest classmates Emily Huerman(n) Their was also a shoe store on 14th St. named Huermann Shoes. Ilast saw Emily at our 50th high school reunion in 1996 Her married name is Stefanus [email protected] wrote: I have begun the HEUERMANN/HEUERMAN List on Rootsweb. The Heuermann family is mainly located in St. Louis, MO, Sedalia, MO, Effingham, Teutopolis, Peoria, IL, New York, South Dakota, California, Texas, Nebraska. If you or anyone you know are researching this family - join us [email protected] Thanks Mary Heuerman Lusk ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- Many would be scantily clad if dressed in their own humility. HUGS HUGS HUGS

I have begun the HEUERMANN/HEUERMAN List on Rootsweb. The Heuermann family is mainly located in St. Louis, MO, Sedalia, MO, Effingham, Teutopolis, Peoria, IL, New York, South Dakota, California, Texas, Nebraska. If you or anyone you know are researching this family - join us [email protected] Thanks Mary Heuerman Lusk

I have begun the HEUERMANN/HEUERMAN List on Rootsweb. The Heuermann family is mainly located in St. Louis, MO, Sedalia, MO, Effingham, Teutopolis, Peoria, IL, New York, South Dakota, California, Texas, Nebraska. If you or anyone you know are researching this family - join us [email protected] Thanks Mary Heuerman Lusk

That is one name. It has, however, been used to describe other organizations not directly affiliated with the Masonic Order. Bill Houdek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hammons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July >I am evesdropping and have another question. Are these Masons the same >group as the 'Free Masons" > thanks > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bhoudek" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July > > >> All Shriners are Masons but not all Masons have elected to Join the >> Shrine. It is necessary one be a Master Mason in order to petition the >> Shrine for membership. One requirement for initiation into the Masonic >> Fraternity is to profess in a belief in God or a Supreme Being. >> Christians, Jews, Moslems, and most other Religions are comfortable in >> the Masonic Orders. The teachings are Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth. >> One's station in life is left at the door and all are equals. Again, >> probably more of a response than requested but the question seemed to >> need more than a one word reply. >> >> Bill Houdek >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July >> >> >>> >>> I've been to the Moolah Temple but am not familiar with its background. >>> I >>> somehow thought the Shriners were related to the Masons? And the >>> Masons are >>> related to a Christian religion? >>> >>> Peggy >>> Florissant >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:21:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> Moolah Temple is one of 191 Temples of the Ancient Arabic Order of the >>> Nobles of the Mystic Shrine---in other words, a Shrine Temple. The >>> Shriners >>> operate 22 Hospitals for Children at no charge to the child or parent. >>> They >>> spend about 1.6 million dollars a day in this philanthropic endeavor. >>> Sorry >>> for the seemly blatant commercial, but could not restrain myself in >>> answering her question. >>> >>> Bill Houdek >>> Ballwin, MO >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >>> NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, >>> political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal >>> messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will >>> be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen >>> Burnett [email protected] >>> >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website >> (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to take a >> look. >> >> > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] >

St. Charles County (MIssouri) Genealogical Society and St. Charles Community College History Department are sponsoring their annual Family History Day on 12 November 2005 at the college in St. Peters, Missouri (suburban St. Louis). Workshop presenter is Michael John Neill, M.S., columnist for the Ancestry Daily News and faculty member of Genealogical Institute of Mid-America TOPICS: Why go to the Courthouse? With a Big Grain of Salt: Evaluating Online Information for Reliability. Reaching Beyond the Internet: Libraries, Genealogical Societies, Museums, etc. Contacting Kin: Interviewing, Telephoning, and Emailing Family Members for Information Registration is only $15 and optional lunch is an extra $7.50. Additional information can be obtained at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosccgs/announce.html We'd love to have you join us. Michael -- Michael John Neill http://www.rootdig.com/

Since we are discussing the Masons, can anyone tell me if the Scottish Rite Library still exists ? Back in 1949 (before my time) the Globe Democrat did an excellant series on, "St. Louis History in Pictures". Many of the photos were courtesy of the Scottish Rite Library of St. Louis. These photos are amazing, I have never seen many of them before. Wide panaramic views of the city back in the 1870's; street scenes of people at work; camp photos of St. Louis soldiers in the Spanish American War (1898), ect. I have never seen these published by the Missouri Historical Society or anywhere else. They are fantastic. Where can we find them today ? P.S.: If you have not seen the movie "National Treasure", starring Nicholas Cage and you like history, you will love it--it is a history adventure (and is also about the Masons). --Scott K. Williams, History's Time Portal to Old St. Louis http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/ St. Louis City/County USGenNet History Messageboard http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/webbbs/queries/index.cgi

I am evesdropping and have another question. Are these Masons the same group as the 'Free Masons" thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhoudek" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July > All Shriners are Masons but not all Masons have elected to Join the > Shrine. It is necessary one be a Master Mason in order to petition the > Shrine for membership. One requirement for initiation into the Masonic > Fraternity is to profess in a belief in God or a Supreme Being. > Christians, Jews, Moslems, and most other Religions are comfortable in > the Masonic Orders. The teachings are Brotherly Love, Relief and > Truth. One's station in life is left at the door and all are equals. > Again, probably more of a response than requested but the question > seemed to need more than a one word reply. > > Bill Houdek > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July > > >> >> I've been to the Moolah Temple but am not familiar with its >> background. I >> somehow thought the Shriners were related to the Masons? And the >> Masons are >> related to a Christian religion? >> >> Peggy >> Florissant >> >> >> In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:21:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Moolah Temple is one of 191 Temples of the Ancient Arabic Order of >> the >> Nobles of the Mystic Shrine---in other words, a Shrine Temple. The >> Shriners >> operate 22 Hospitals for Children at no charge to the child or >> parent. They >> spend about 1.6 million dollars a day in this philanthropic >> endeavor. Sorry >> for the seemly blatant commercial, but could not restrain myself in >> answering her question. >> >> Bill Houdek >> Ballwin, MO >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== >> NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, >> political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal >> messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and >> will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact >> Kathleen Burnett [email protected] >> > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to > take a look. > >

I've been to the Moolah Temple but am not familiar with its background. I somehow thought the Shriners were related to the Masons? And the Masons are related to a Christian religion? Peggy Florissant In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:21:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Moolah Temple is one of 191 Temples of the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine---in other words, a Shrine Temple. The Shriners operate 22 Hospitals for Children at no charge to the child or parent. They spend about 1.6 million dollars a day in this philanthropic endeavor. Sorry for the seemly blatant commercial, but could not restrain myself in answering her question. Bill Houdek Ballwin, MO [email protected]

All Shriners are Masons but not all Masons have elected to Join the Shrine. It is necessary one be a Master Mason in order to petition the Shrine for membership. One requirement for initiation into the Masonic Fraternity is to profess in a belief in God or a Supreme Being. Christians, Jews, Moslems, and most other Religions are comfortable in the Masonic Orders. The teachings are Brotherly Love, Relief and Truth. One's station in life is left at the door and all are equals. Again, probably more of a response than requested but the question seemed to need more than a one word reply. Bill Houdek ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] My trip to St. Louis in July > > I've been to the Moolah Temple but am not familiar with its background. > I > somehow thought the Shriners were related to the Masons? And the Masons > are > related to a Christian religion? > > Peggy > Florissant > > > In a message dated 8/25/2005 2:21:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Moolah Temple is one of 191 Temples of the Ancient Arabic Order of the > Nobles of the Mystic Shrine---in other words, a Shrine Temple. The > Shriners > operate 22 Hospitals for Children at no charge to the child or parent. > They > spend about 1.6 million dollars a day in this philanthropic endeavor. > Sorry > for the seemly blatant commercial, but could not restrain myself in > answering her question. > > Bill Houdek > Ballwin, MO > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] >