Thank you Carole, I will call them after the holidays. Another lister said she had family there and give me a little info also. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Vahalla Cemetery > Some of my relatives are buried there and as far as I know, it is the > only > Valhalla in St. L area. They will give you info in the office I > believe. > Carole > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] > >

Pat: Question: Why don't you call them or write to them yourself and find the answers to all of your questions? If you went to the trouble to look them on the net, surely you found a phone number for them. Or an email address. Didn't you? Craig > [Original Message] > From: Pat Hammons <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 12/22/2005 11:58:28 AM > Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] Vahalla Cemetery > > Can anyone tell me anything about Vahallia Cemetery. I did 'google' it > and found some info about the cemetery itself. I just found an ancester > buried there. Has anyone had expierience with them? will they give out > info ( plot etc etc/) information? What type of fee? etc etc. What > religion if any, is this associated with, I gathered it was any > denomination. also is there only one Vahallia Cemetery in the St. Louis > area? > > thanks > > Pat > > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D-

Some of my relatives are buried there and as far as I know, it is the only Valhalla in St. L area. They will give you info in the office I believe. Carole

Hi Pat, I have relatives buried in Valhalla. They will give out information for a fee. I really don't remember exactly how much they charged. It is a nice cemetery as cemeteries go - small but well kept. Mary

Does anyone know if there are any records for the Alexander Funeral Home that was 6175 Delmar? Thanks pat

Can anyone tell me anything about Vahallia Cemetery. I did 'google' it and found some info about the cemetery itself. I just found an ancester buried there. Has anyone had expierience with them? will they give out info ( plot etc etc/) information? What type of fee? etc etc. What religion if any, is this associated with, I gathered it was any denomination. also is there only one Vahallia Cemetery in the St. Louis area? thanks Pat

The St. Louis County Library now has a binder that contains an index to baptisms at St. Patrick's Church - a predominantly Irish parish. The index only runs from 1853 to 1862, so it is limited. This would be helpful to anyone who is researching the Irish during those years , but I think it would be especially helpful to those who live out of St. Louis and who are researching those years. A lookup by library personnel in this index would be fairly easy and I think they would probably be happy to check. Diane Shaw

I am researching, Tucci, Corea, Klein, Keller,Bommarito(married Rose Mastroianni) All of St. Louis, MO. Thanks, Marge

I am currently serving as a volunteer on the Landmark and Historic District Commission for the City of Florissant. If there are any present or former Florissant residents on the list, you may be able to help me on a project I am working. I am trying to identify as many homes of war veterans (survivors plus those that did not make it back home, Killed in Action, Missing, POW's died in containment, ect.). These can be boyhood homes, pre or post war residences. My intention is to see that these structures are properly identified, protected if necessary, and these servicemen remembered. Many homes in Florissant were some of the first homes of World War II veterans that returned following the war. Many are now over the 50 years for qualification in the historic home designation. The greatest significance are those of veterans that served in combat zones during all wars of the United States. Please provide (regardless of architectural uniqueness or current condition of the home): Serviceperson's Name: Branch of Service: Rank (if known): War of Service (declared or undeclared): Street Address (in Florissant at time of service OR in currently annexed districts of the City): Approximate Date of Residence: Is this person still living ? If not approx. date of death: Additional Information if known: Please send information to: [email protected] Thank you, Scott K. Williams, Florissant Landmark and Historic District Commission

Some years ago, I found pictures of an uncle at this site. I think the person who finds these pictures tries to list them here and will provide copies of the orignal picture(s). Apparently it is a hobby for this person - s/he has over 80,000 photos found old flea markets, garage sales, etc. Here's hoping someone finds a picture! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rampage/INDEXTWO1.txt I found the location by doing a search at Rootsweb (with the Search Thing) where other picture lists are located. http://sitesearch.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search Jacquie Albert (researching Albert, Biermann, Brandt or Bethorn?, Kanke, Lederhos, Orrenkrich, Reid, Schlueter, Tubesing)

Listers - especially for you out-of-towners, who are interested in viewing the neighborhoods of ancestors - download Google Earth. It's easy (I did it!) It's an amazing tool. Almost scary. Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ

In a message dated 12/3/2005 10:20:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: information would be available from those 100 year old records if they were available? You would have to already know the name, and birthdate to get them. The death records would be public and would state cause of death. Ann Parker Maybe a next of kin would be listed that is otherwise unavailable.

Greetings, Listers! From The St. Louis Post-Dispatch 3 Dec 2005: Page A5 St. Stanislaus Kostka Catholic Church has hired a Roman Catholic priest from the Springfield-Cape Girardeau diocese. The Rev. Marek B. Bozek, a 30 year old native of Poland, will celebrate his first mass at St. Stanilaus on Christmas Eve 2005. He is doing this without Archbishop Raymond Burke's consent. Rev. Bozek feels it is his sacred duty...to answer the call of the people of St. Stanislaus Kostka Parish. Page A6 The U. S. Census Bureau has updated its estimate of the population of the city of St. Louis. They have added 2% more giving it a total of about 350,705. This shows an increase of 2,666 people in one year. St. Louis was among 35 places that successfully appealed their 2004 population estimates. FYI Gloria

Good from Rev. Bozek and I am not from St. Louis!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] St. Louis Area Updates > Greetings, Listers! > >>From The St. Louis Post-Dispatch 3 Dec 2005: > Page A5 > St. Stanislaus Kostka Catholic Church has hired a Roman Catholic > priest from the Springfield-Cape Girardeau diocese. The Rev. Marek B. > Bozek, a 30 year old native of Poland, will celebrate his first mass > at St. Stanilaus on Christmas Eve 2005. He is doing this without > Archbishop Raymond Burke's consent. > Rev. Bozek feels it is his sacred duty...to answer the call of the > people of St. Stanislaus Kostka Parish. > > Page A6 > The U. S. Census Bureau has updated its estimate of the population of > the city of St. Louis. They have added 2% more giving it a total of > about 350,705. This shows an increase of 2,666 people in one year. > St. Louis was among 35 places that successfully appealed their 2004 > population estimates. > > FYI > Gloria > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > If you haven't visited Dave Lossos' "Genealogy in St. Louis" website > (http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com/) you might want to > take a look. > >

I am just curious, but what kind of information would be available from those 100 year old records if they were available? You would have to already know the name, and birthdate to get them. The death records would be public and would state cause of death. Ann Parker __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com

In a message dated 12/2/2005 6:35:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I just question why this law is preventing access to records over an 110 years old, especially to a direct descendant.. Lynn I wonder too - would not a 72 year rule seem appropriate since that is the rule for census?

Thanks to all who answered my question about the "HIPPA Law" which stands for "Health Insurance Patient Privacy Act". I just question why this law is preventing access to records over an 110 years old, especially to a direct descendant.. Lynn

Thank you for your very informative message. I personally am interested in this as my great-grandfather died in the City Hospital in 1896 and would like to pursue his record further. My question to you, and please ingore my ingorance, but what is "the HIPPA law"? Lynn Diane wrote: > OK - here is the scoop on the St. Louis City Hospital registers, Female > Hospital registers, Midwives and Physicians, etc., collection listed > below as available from the Mormon Church. > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > I talked to an archivist at City Hall and she told me that the records > are there, but are not available for genealogical research because of > the Mo. HIPPA law. I questioned whether the HIPPA law would apply to > records that are over a hundred years old and she said that she didn't > know, but that the city is not going to allow access to the registers > unless the person researching meets HIPPA requirements. I checked with > a knowledgeable person at a St. Louis hospital and she told me that the > HIPPA law does not apply to records that are over 70 years old and apply > only to the actual medical record, not an index to them. Regardless, > the city of St. Louis is not going to allow access to these records. > So, folks, the only way to get to these records is from the church of > Latter Day Saints. I hope that the libraries take a look at this set of > records and consider getting them for us. To me, they would be > extremely valuable to people looking for anyone, but especially for > women (because of the Female hospital registers). It is ironic that > without the Mormon church, nobody would have these records. > > So for those of you who are trying to find a person who died between the > years 1846 to 1900 and during the year 1927 or for and for those who > just want to document that a person was in St. Louis during those years > as well as those who are looking for females (the Female Hospital and > the Midwives list), this collection could be very valuable. If you have > a "brick wall" in this time period, you might be able to find a relly's > name on the index. You won't be able to get the actual medical record, > but I would think that knowing that the person was hospitalized and > knowing their age, you might be able to narrow down an assumed death > date for a person this way. > > This collection is large and would be too expensive to rent as a set. I > believe there are 16 films alone in the City Hospital collection. I > would encourage anyone who rents one of these films to offer to do > lookups for others on the Rootsweb list. > This is a good example of the huge service done for us by the Mormon > Church. > > Diane Shaw > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Early City Hospital Registers & Health records > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:38:40 -0600 > From: Diane <[email protected]> > To: ST. Louis Rootsweb <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > > > Below is a link to the LDS listing for Health Records in St. Louis City: > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > It lists: > > City Hospital Registers: 1846-1900 and 1927 > Female Hospital Registers: 1876-1905 > Register of Midwives and Physicians: 1869-1906 > > among 5 items available in this health category. One of the other items > is a book, which of course, you can't order unless you order it through > a Family History Library and the other is a film of Health Facility > Reports. > > I would think that these three films would be of great interest to > people in the St. Louis area as well as outside of St. Louis. I > e-mailed the County Library to determine if these films are in their > collection and they are not. I called the Public library and found > that they are not in the collection of their library either. However, > Kathy Smith, our list buddy, told me that she thinks the registers are > available at City Hall and recommended that I call and ask about it. I > called the Archives at City Hall (314-622-4610) and was advised that > they are not sure if they have the records. They are going to return my > call. > > These films would especially be of interest to anyone who had a > physician in their family, and/or anyone searching for a female during > those years. So, for everyone with interests in St. Louis health > records - in or out of St. Louis- these films are available through the > LDS library and are probably worth checking out. > I will post any information I get about the availability of these > records through St. Louis City Hall when they return my call. > > Diane Shaw > > > > Hi Diane, > I am sorry but we do not have permission from the owning archive to > purchase these films. > Joyce > > At 01:36 PM 11/25/2005 -0600, you wrote: > I have found a set of 16 films that are in the Mormon Church (LDS) > library that are City Hospital registers for the years 1846 through > 1900. The Female Hospital registers are there too. > > I have never seen this collection in the County or City Libraries. Are > they available in St. Louis? > > Diane Shaw > Hillsboro, MO > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will > be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett [email protected] > > >

Hello Diane, Sorry to hear about your foot surgery. Hope everything is mending quickly. I was in Antonia Woods the 1st weekend in Oct. My son has added an addition to his home, (he did a lot of the wood work himself) but it was all beautiful. Seen my two great granddaughters and watched them play. They are adorable. The area out on 55 (I think that was the # of the highway) is sure growing. Didn't recognize it, especially the bottom road leading into AW. Nice to read you on e-mail again. I have a gr. grandmother who died in the city hospital in 1944, but my letter was returned and not forwarded, so it was a dead end for me. It will be interesting to see if you find out anything about your relative. Good Luck! Rosalie Lohmann, Naples, Fl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: [MO-STLOUIS-METRO] City Hospital Register etc. only available from LDS > OK - here is the scoop on the St. Louis City Hospital registers, Female > Hospital registers, Midwives and Physicians, etc., collection listed > below as available from the Mormon Church. > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > I talked to an archivist at City Hall and she told me that the records > are there, but are not available for genealogical research because of > the Mo. HIPPA law. I questioned whether the HIPPA law would apply to > records that are over a hundred years old and she said that she didn't > know, but that the city is not going to allow access to the registers > unless the person researching meets HIPPA requirements. I checked with > a knowledgeable person at a St. Louis hospital and she told me that the > HIPPA law does not apply to records that are over 70 years old and apply > only to the actual medical record, not an index to them. Regardless, > the city of St. Louis is not going to allow access to these records. > So, folks, the only way to get to these records is from the church of > Latter Day Saints. I hope that the libraries take a look at this set of > records and consider getting them for us. To me, they would be > extremely valuable to people looking for anyone, but especially for > women (because of the Female hospital registers). It is ironic that > without the Mormon church, nobody would have these records. > > So for those of you who are trying to find a person who died between the > years 1846 to 1900 and during the year 1927 or for and for those who > just want to document that a person was in St. Louis during those years > as well as those who are looking for females (the Female Hospital and > the Midwives list), this collection could be very valuable. If you have > a "brick wall" in this time period, you might be able to find a relly's > name on the index. You won't be able to get the actual medical record, > but I would think that knowing that the person was hospitalized and > knowing their age, you might be able to narrow down an assumed death > date for a person this way. > > This collection is large and would be too expensive to rent as a set. I > believe there are 16 films alone in the City Hospital collection. I > would encourage anyone who rents one of these films to offer to do > lookups for others on the Rootsweb list. > > This is a good example of the huge service done for us by the Mormon Church. > > Diane Shaw > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Early City Hospital Registers & Health records > Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:38:40 -0600 > From: Diane <[email protected]> > To: ST. Louis Rootsweb <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > > > Below is a link to the LDS listing for Health Records in St. Louis City: > > http://tinyurl.com/bwfbx > > It lists: > > City Hospital Registers: 1846-1900 and 1927 > Female Hospital Registers: 1876-1905 > Register of Midwives and Physicians: 1869-1906 > > among 5 items available in this health category. One of the other items > is a book, which of course, you can't order unless you order it through > a Family History Library and the other is a film of Health Facility Reports. > > I would think that these three films would be of great interest to > people in the St. Louis area as well as outside of St. Louis. I > e-mailed the County Library to determine if these films are in their > collection and they are not. I called the Public library and found > that they are not in the collection of their library either. However, > Kathy Smith, our list buddy, told me that she thinks the registers are > available at City Hall and recommended that I call and ask about it. I > called the Archives at City Hall (314-622-4610) and was advised that > they are not sure if they have the records. They are going to return my > call. > > These films would especially be of interest to anyone who had a > physician in their family, and/or anyone searching for a female during > those years. So, for everyone with interests in St. Louis health > records - in or out of St. Louis- these films are available through the > LDS library and are probably worth checking out. > > I will post any information I get about the availability of these > records through St. Louis City Hall when they return my call. > > Diane Shaw > > > > Hi Diane, > I am sorry but we do not have permission from the owning archive to > purchase these films. > Joyce > > At 01:36 PM 11/25/2005 -0600, you wrote: > I have found a set of 16 films that are in the Mormon Church (LDS) > library that are City Hospital registers for the years 1846 through > 1900. The Female Hospital registers are there too. > > I have never seen this collection in the County or City Libraries. Are > they available in St. Louis? > > Diane Shaw > Hillsboro, MO > > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected]

Dear Bj, Was your grandfather collecting a pension after 1956 or 1959? I was told that records prior to that were either lost or destroyed unless the person was currently working after that date or was collecting a pension. I was able to get my uncle's, my grandfather's and a great-uncle's records because two were collecting pensions and the other was an officer at that time period. Georgia Bj wrote: > I was researching my Grandfather's employment with the SLPD. The Librarian at the Police Department dug up records for me from the 30's and 40's. The address on my envelope she sent was: > > St Louis Police LIbrary > 315 S Tucker Blvd. > St Louis MO 63102 > > Her name is Barbara Miksicek (Librarian) > Hope this helps....Bj (Conners) Bagwell > > Diane <[email protected]> wrote: > While talking to the City Hall Archivist today, I learned that criminal > records are available. She said that if you go to the Police Department > at 12th and Clark and go to the First Floor, you can fill out a form and > pay $9.00 and get a search of the criminal records done. You will not > get access to the records - you will get the service of a person who > will search the records for you. I am very interested in this, so if > anyone has any luck doing this, please, please, please, e-mail me or the > list and tell us! I know that there are several folks on the lists who > have gangsters and other criminally colorful characters in their > families who would love to be able to get a copy of their record. > > I also learned that the Police Academy has some records of St. Louis > Police officers. I would recommend a phone call to the academy before > going there. I know there are two people on this list who are trying > to get info on St. Louis police officers. Maybe this is the answer. If > you have any luck, let the list know! > > These days, I am recovering from surgery to my left foot and am not very > mobile. Surgery to the right foot is right around the corner. I will > not be able to make the one hour drive to the city from Hillsboro to get > a search done-at least not in the near future. I especially would not > like to get there, park and hobble into the building in cold weather > only to discover that the records are not available. If anyone has > success with this, please let me know. I will talk my long suffering > husband into taking time off work and helping me get into the building > to get the criminal records! > > Diane Shaw > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > > May your troubles be less, your blessings more > and nothing but happiness come through your door! > > ==== MO-STLOUIS-METRO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address [email protected] If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D-