Barbara, We on this List could not agree with you more! I think that is the reason for the necessity of this area list... to try to kill 2 birds with one stone, and we are proud of being one of the most helpful Lists around... It's tough, isn't it, when you post a query, and no one knows anything to respond...Hang in there... we've all be in the same position as you [and may still be].... and you never know what new people will join the List that has the key you're looking for... You might be interested in knowing that I saw a query posted just today on Jackson County, ALABAMA for a LEADER family. Lanita