Hi Carlene, I knew the odds were very low, but wanted to hear it from a Couch researcher who was more familiar with Simpson and Lindley than I am. Thanks for responding! Why Lindley fought for the Union, and not for the Confederacy, and why Lindley enlisted in St. Louis with two of his father's cousins, will probably remain one of those unanswered questions. Wouldn't it be great if we could spend just 15 minutes with one of our ancestors, and ask all those questions we wonder so often about? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <MeFreeToB@aol.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Lindley Couch > In a message dated 3/11/2007 9:58:15 PM Central Standard Time, > Mike@Landwehr.com writes: > >> There is no doubt that the Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage >> received >> a >> pension for service in Company C of the 40th Missouri. My question to >> Lindley Couch descendants is whether there is any room for doubt that the >> Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage was Simpson Couch's son???

Hi List it is strange that my Susan J Roberts Estes would name her children after the Couch family,after she married John W Estes they had Lindley Couch Estes then Alfred Perry Estes and Isaac Estes also a Madison Estes and Thomas S Estes,i still haven,t found anyone that help me figure this one out,also my Susan i,am pretty sure was a sister to Rebecca Roberts Couch,Simpson Couch wife,and Alexander Roberts daughter,but was told Susan was a Couch,so now she is a Susan Couch Roberts Estes,and she was not married to any David Hill any how mine was,ent,she is my ggrandmother, _mariesweet@aol.com_ (mailto:mariesweet@aol.com) Marie in Colorado <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/11/2007 9:58:15 PM Central Standard Time, Mike@Landwehr.com writes: > There is no doubt that the Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage received > a > pension for service in Company C of the 40th Missouri. My question to > Lindley Couch descendants is whether there is any room for doubt that the > Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage was Simpson Couch's son??? > Hi Mike, You do bring up some very interesting points to make us Couch researchers scratch our heads. But, I don't think there is ANY doubt that the Lindley Couch who married Mary Frances Gage is the son of Simpson Couch. Carlene Missouri Ozarks ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

With regard to the Kelletts, is Eliza Jane Kellett in your line? She was born about 1823 in Randolph Co., AR and died by 1855. She married William Andrew Wooldridge on Oct. 31, 1847 in Randolph Co., AR. She was my great great grandmother. Catherine BryantKellett@aol.com wrote: > > >Hello All & Lanita > > >I know there's someone out there, that has the missing link to my Kellett >family, but they don't realize how important their information is. They haven't >done family research yet, so I have to wait for them to show up, or search fo >r them. > > >Regards >Josiah JB Kellett >in Tennessee > > > > > > > >In a message dated 3/11/2007 1:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >ozarkn@grm.net writes: > >Just curious: > >When researching, do you stick with your direct line, or do you try to >research the whole lines including siblings for each generation on >down? > >Why? > >Lanita > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > > > ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

In a message dated 3/11/2007 9:20:16 PM Central Standard Time, pgmiller@flash.net writes: > If Lindley is on the 1890 census of CW soldiers in Oregon Co., it might > tell you if the Oregon Co. Lindley was in the right regiment. > Pat Miller > Hi Pat & All, Good idea, but doesn't work. By 1890 Lindley was living in central AR with his second wife, Mary Frances Gage. Mike, I don't have any information about Lindley being in the military. Would be most interested if you learn more. Carlene - 2nd great-granddaughter of Lindley Couch and Sarah Ann Kilman ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

You can find Missouri soldiers roster cards online at: http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/soldiers/ Lindley's is there, and can easily be opened. Lots of good stuff on the military found online! Lanita

When I was first getting into genealogy my Aunt Virginia stressed to me how important it was to focus on the straight line, and treat siblings as incidental. If the info on siblings was easy to collect then do so, if not, they were only sibling lines anyway. In the pre-computer era the above strategy was likely the only way to manage all the information. But I am one who will research anyone I am related to. I do trace & track sibling lines as interest and time allow. In fact, the only reason that I was able to locate Betsey STUBBLEFIELD's husband, William ALLEN's father Isaac, was because I also have a HUFF line and I ran into the family of John HUFF m. Mary Elinor CORDER. After I saw the Mary Elinor CORDER HUFF's sibilings I realized that my lines connected to 4 of the 5 daughters. That was a tremendously huge clue that I absolutely never in a million years would ever have located on my own straight line researching. Linking Isaac ALLEN & Sophia Ruth CORDER to William ALLEN & Betsey STUBBLEFIELD remains the discovery that I am most proud of overall during my years of research. So my bottom line is this. Conduct straight line research until you bump into the inevitable dead end, and at that point you start researching siblings, and those with similar surnames in close geographical proximity for clues. And if that fails to bear fruit then back up a generation and repeat. It really is the best way I have found to get around research roadblocks. And one last hint, look over neighbors in the census regardless the surname. Often they will be related to your line if you check them out. Families tended to cluster afterall, especially pre-railroad times. james wall

Lanita, Is Lindley Couch's age on his Civil War enlistment card? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Lindley Couch > Missouri Archives says that a Lindley served with the Union and was a > Private under Capt Harrison in the 40th Regiment Infantry Volunteers, > Co. "C". Enlisted Sept 1, 1864, mustered out Aug 1865.. > > Since Lindley, s/o Simpson was in Oregon Co. in 1867 when he married, > and in 1870, on the census, I am hesitant to say that it is the same > "Lindley". Oregon Co. or the area is not mentioned on his enlistment > card. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Lanita I feel very confident that the Lindley Couch who served in the 40th Missouri was the same Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage. There is just something about Lindley Couch's service that has always been a bit interesting to me. I've looked at the names of all the men who served in Company C of the 40th Missouri Infantry, and did not find the names of any other men that I could connect to Oregon County. That's not surprising, since the 40th was organized at Benton Barracks, near St. Louis. But there were three Couch men who served in Company C of the 40th Missouri: Henry, John and Lindley Couch. Now, the elder Lindley Couch (son of Moses Couch) had a brother (we believe) named Avery Couch. Avery Couch had three sons: Henry, John and Lindley Couch. Lindley Couch, son of Avery, was about three years older than Lindley Couch, son of Simpson. I am confident that the John and Henry Couch who served in Company C of the 40th Missouri were Avery Couch's sons. And, if I didn't know better, I would assume that the Lindley Couch who served in the same company with John Couch and Henry Couch was their brother. Instead, it appears that the Lindley Couch who served with John and Henry was the son of their cousin, Simpson Couch. Doesn't it seem strange that Simpson Couch's son, Lindley, would go to St. Louis to enlist in the Civil War? And isn't it interesting that Lindley, son of Simpson, apparently avoided military service until after his 21st birthday? And doesn't it seem strange that Lindley would enlist at St. Louis with two of his father's cousins? And doesn't it seem a bit strange that Simpson's second son, Lindley, served in the Union Army, while Lindley's older brother, Alfred P., and younger brother, George W., both served the Confederacy? And isn't it interesting that Lindley Couch, son of Avery Couch, disappeared some time after the 1850 census. I'm assuming that Lindley (son of Avery) died after the 1850 census and before the end of the Civil War, but have no evidence of his death. There is no doubt that the Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage received a pension for service in Company C of the 40th Missouri. My question to Lindley Couch descendants is whether there is any room for doubt that the Lindley Couch who married Mary F. Gage was Simpson Couch's son??? Just something to think about! Let me know if you have anything to add. If anyone on the list has read Lindley Couch's pension records, I'd very much like to visit with you about what the records say. Best wishes, Mike Landwehr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Lindley Couch > Missouri Archives says that a Lindley served with the Union and was a > Private under Capt Harrison in the 40th Regiment Infantry Volunteers, > Co. "C". Enlisted Sept 1, 1864, mustered out Aug 1865.. > > Since Lindley, s/o Simpson was in Oregon Co. in 1867 when he married, > and in 1870, on the census, I am hesitant to say that it is the same > "Lindley". Oregon Co. or the area is not mentioned on his enlistment > card. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If Lindley is on the 1890 census of CW soldiers in Oregon Co., it might tell you if the Oregon Co. Lindley was in the right regiment. Pat Miller Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > Missouri Archives says that a Lindley served with the Union and was a > Private under Capt Harrison in the 40th Regiment Infantry Volunteers, > Co. "C". Enlisted Sept 1, 1864, mustered out Aug 1865.. > > Since Lindley, s/o Simpson was in Oregon Co. in 1867 when he married, > and in 1870, on the census, I am hesitant to say that it is the same > "Lindley". Oregon Co. or the area is not mentioned on his enlistment > card. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Lanita, This is interesting because I was told when I started researching to not worry about siblings until I found the directs. But, in my short four years of research I've found that the only way I've found my direct line is to research the siblings first. I have many great and great great grandparents (plus) that would still not be found if I hadn't done the siblings first. It makes the family so much more interesting and tells so much about how they lived. Genealogy isn't just names of ancestors, its who they were coming alive. I don't go any farther back than I need to, but will eventually expand the tree and the story as far as possible. Pat Miller Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > I agree to check into the siblings, you never know what or who you will > find! How far 'down' with the descendants of the siblings do you go? > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi, I'd like to get in touch with a descendant who has researched Lindley Couch, son of Simpson Couch. If you are knowledgable about Lindley's service in the Civil War, please contact me. Thanks, Mike Landwehr

Missouri Archives says that a Lindley served with the Union and was a Private under Capt Harrison in the 40th Regiment Infantry Volunteers, Co. "C". Enlisted Sept 1, 1864, mustered out Aug 1865.. Since Lindley, s/o Simpson was in Oregon Co. in 1867 when he married, and in 1870, on the census, I am hesitant to say that it is the same "Lindley". Oregon Co. or the area is not mentioned on his enlistment card. Lanita

I agree to check into the siblings, you never know what or who you will find! How far 'down' with the descendants of the siblings do you go? Lanita

Hello All & Lanita I always research on other branches of the family and other siblings. I've done more of my research on my Kellett side by researching the Brothers, Sisters and Cousins. It's been really difficult researching my Kellett's. I always research hoping, that one of distant cousins might know something, that might give me a break through or a clue, to my direct line. As far as my mothers side. It's been easier researching my Danish og German Ancestors. I have recently connected to a new cousin, because they had no clue, to their family research. They had a brick wall, until I came a long and provided them information about their family. I know there's someone out there, that has the missing link to my Kellett family, but they don't realize how important their information is. They haven't done family research yet, so I have to wait for them to show up, or search fo r them. That's why I research all lines. Regards Josiah JB Kellett in Tennessee In a message dated 3/11/2007 1:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ozarkn@grm.net writes: Just curious: When researching, do you stick with your direct line, or do you try to research the whole lines including siblings for each generation on down? Why? Lanita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Lanita & All, I research as many of the sibling lines as possible. I've learned that groups of families migrated and settled together. Marriages among families in different generations produce some interesting relationships. :-) I have several cousins (of varying degrees) with whom I'm related in at least 3 different ways. This is especially true in my Oregon Co. families. You miss so much interesting information when you research only a direct line. As someone pointed out, you also miss some wonderful clues leading to your direct lines. Carlene Missouri Ozarks ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Lanita, As a matter of fact, I've researched for many years, looking only for my direct line. I now realize that without adding at least the siblings' names, dates and location of births and deaths I've missed valuable clues that would have helped shorten my searches! Just this last month I found a new cousin who had many interesting stories to tell about his own ancestors, one of which was also my ggggrandfather. I couldn't resist reading the whole 44 pages he sent. Lo and behold, there was also my gggrandfather, who has been missing all these years. He was not in the direct line of my new cousin, but was a collateral. Without the work my new cousin put into listing all the marriages, descendants, etc of his ancestors, I wouldn't have the long-searched-for gggrandfather, his wife and their story!! Since I found this, I've gone back to my paper files and begun to add those extra family members to my family tree and found many leads to follow. If I had done this from the first, I'd be a lot further along in my search for my direct line. Donnie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

When I first started out, at age 16 I stuck with my direct line as wanted to get as much entered from the living generation at that time. Also, when I first started entering into a genealogy program in a computer, I would stick to basically one line until that line was entered. But today, after researching for close to 40 years and with everything now entered into a genealogy program, I research all the siblings downward. Mainly because I want to know more - but have come to realize how valuable information that these siblings descendants have in their possession. It is through them that I meet wonderful cousins such as I have on this list. Also following them, Bible records, years of genealogy a descendant of a sibling has done, old photos, etc have been discovered. Many times an old photo of a direct ancestor of mine has been discovered in the possession of a descendant of a sibling, especially in cases where I descend from a son and the sibling was the oldest or youngest sibling in the family or the direct ancestor had went to live their later years with that sibling. Also, don't forget to watch out for those neighbors and cousin marriages. If anyone writes me and don't get an answer right away, please remember that I do have a son who is serving in Afghanistan. He was deployed a month ago and has 5 more to go. Thanks, *Researching DIRECT LINES of Jobe,McIntire, Brewer, Hall and Thomas from this area. Ann (Jobe) Brown ( Ontario, Canada) <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/index.html> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/jobe.html> > Just curious: > > When researching, do you stick with your direct line, or do you try to > research the whole lines including siblings for each generation on > down? > > Why? > > Lanita >

I research the whole line when I have enough information to get started. I have found many second and third cousins and even a family picture of my grandparents. My grandfather had died in 1899 and we had no pictures of him ( house fire long ago). I have found many clues and information about my direct line through researching the siblings, etc. Catherine Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: >Just curious: > >When researching, do you stick with your direct line, or do you try to >research the whole lines including siblings for each generation on >down? > >Why? > >Lanita > > >

Just curious: When researching, do you stick with your direct line, or do you try to research the whole lines including siblings for each generation on down? Why? Lanita