Hi Lanita, Their all on the RC website. Kara Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

Betty, Thanks for the updated email address. Yes, I am aware of Randolph Co.'s history as being a part of Lawrence Co.. I am ordering their marriages as well. I just didn't want to order a book if you've already done the hard part by putting them online! Thanks! Lanita

Oops, I told you that my new email address was tucker2@cox-internet.com Well, that was my old address. My new primary address is tucker2@suddenlink.net My secondary address is tucker.42278@yahoo.com Sorry about that. Betty Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: Betty, I sent you an email, and it bounced. I am thinking of ordering the 2 R.C. marriage books from Arkansas Research. One is from 1821-1893, and the other is from 1893-1923. Do you already have all of these online, or what year did you start with? Lanita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

Hi Lanita, The Randolph Co Marriage Index which I have online starts 1837. The book for which you are considering ordering covers marriages from 1821. Mr Knotts notes the following in the books introduction "So that the Randolph Co marriage list would be more complete, the marriages in book A1 and A2, Lawrence Co Ar, Arkansas Territory, for the period 1821 - 1836, were abstracted and included herein." There are no marriages recorded in the Randolph Co Clerks office prior to 1837. Please remember that Randolph County has a long history. It has been part of: Four Countries - France, Spain, the Confederacy and the United States. Four territories - District of Louisiana (1804), District of New Madrid (1805), Territory of Missouri (1815) and Territory of Arkansas (1819). Two states - Missouri and Arkansas Three counties - New Madrid, Lawrence and Randolph. In 1835, Randolph officially came into existence as a separate county in the Arkansas Territory. Arkansas was admitted to statehood in 1836. My new primary email address is tucker2@cox-internet.com Betty Tucker Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: Betty, I sent you an email, and it bounced. I am thinking of ordering the 2 R.C. marriage books from Arkansas Research. One is from 1821-1893, and the other is from 1893-1923. Do you already have all of these online, or what year did you start with? Lanita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.

Betty, I sent you an email, and it bounced. I am thinking of ordering the 2 R.C. marriage books from Arkansas Research. One is from 1821-1893, and the other is from 1893-1923. Do you already have all of these online, or what year did you start with? Lanita

Well, I finally got a reply back after putting in a query about early marriages from Jackson Co., AL. Since so many from this area came here from there, thought you might be interested in knowing that "No marriages before 1851 available unless some one has bible records. The court records were burned during the Civil War." That pretty well seals the deal on finding marriage records for several of my families since they all were in MO by 1850 or 1860.... RATS!!!! Hope you all are working away at this hobby and get better news! Lanita

Ron, There is a JESSA M. SNIDER, wife of Homer J., in Shannon Co. in 1920. She is listed as being 41, so would be 'his age'. Be interesting to see if that would panned out for you. Lanita

Hello everyone, I've been catching up on a bit of genealogy lately (after a month in hospital, two months in rehab unit, and a nightmarish fortnight in a "supported residential service"). Before I went away, so to speak, I got some notes together ready order my greatgrandfather Warren Newton Burnett's death certificate from the state government. To my delighted surprise, I find that the archives have in the meantime caught up and the certificate image is now online. He died 3 March 1927 (not 1925 as I had previously understood), and I now have a birthdate (9 January 1856). The informant was my grandfather Edmond Burnett, and the attendant was Frank Hyde (a name well known to many of you on the list). It was no surprise to find him described as a widower, but I WAS surprised to see the name of his wife reported as Josie Snider. Huh? He is on the 1880 census in Phelps County, MO with wife Catherine (unknown surname), and there is a record of an 1884 marriage to Mary F. Stringer in Shannon County. So where did Josie Snider fit in? Is there anyone with Snider connectons who might shed some light on this? I think it is about time someone wrote a biography of Frank Hyde. The quintessential country doctor, I see now that he attended not only the death of my great-grandfather but my very own birth in 1945! And he went on for some time after that (died about 1949 if I recall correctly). Regards to all, Ron Burnett

Lanita - Thank you for checking this out for me. Most of the rest of the family are in Shannon County but have not been able to locate where Franklin or Martha are buried. Appreciate it -- Ona On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:37:08 -0600 Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> writes: > I think there's a good chance that your Franklin has passed. I found > > Marion in the 1910 Shannon Co., MO census. You might check over > there. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I think there's a good chance that your Franklin has passed. I found Marion in the 1910 Shannon Co., MO census. You might check over there. Lanita

I checked the Oregon Co. cemetery book and your Franklin and Martha WOOD[S] are not listed, neither is their son, Marion. Will keep looking, but maybe some of the others can check their cemetery records for the surrounding counties. Lanita

Hello List--- I have a FRANKLIN WOOD and wife MARTHA, daughter MARY and son MARION in the 1900 census of Oregon County. Falling Spring Township. I have been unable to find FRANKLIN after this date and am wondering if he might have died there and might possibly be in a cemetery book for Oregon County? Any help greatly appreciated. Ona Fern

We have no such wonderful database that I know of. I wish. What a great thing Missouri has done for genealogists! Claudette Hackworth -----Original Message----- From: mo-oregon-history-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mo-oregon-history-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lanita Sconce Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:36 PM To: OREGON CO HISTORY HISTORY Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Arkansas info online Missouri has many death certificates from 190?-195?, as well as military enlistment cards... I have been unable to find anything similar for Arkansas ....anybody know of any? Lanita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lanita, Great point. I know that this happened quite a bit along the Missouri-Arkansas border, but elsewhere, as well. In Lindley Couch's case, this would suggest that he avoided all military service until he was two months short of his 21st birthday, and then was forced to enlist (at the point of a gun?) at Benton Barracks, near St. Louis. I suppose that is possible if Lindley was living with, or visiting, his Couch relatives in the St. Louis area when he was "discovered". This is all speculation, of course, but I would suggest that the fact that Lindley did not enlist in Fristoe's Regiment, along with his three brothers, might mean that he was opposed to fighting for the Confederacy, or that he was living outside of the Oregon County area when his three brothers joined Fristoe. Perhaps Lindley was living with Henry and John Couch, his father's two cousins, some where in the St. Louis area. Though I doubt that Lindley and Henry and John would have been all that close, since Henry and John were both older and married with families in 1864. It is interesting to note that Henry and John Couch enlisted on August 30, and Lindley did not enlist in the same company (voluntarily or at the point of a gun!) until two days later, on September 1. Thanks for making a good point, Lanita. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Lindley Couch in the Civil War > Mike, > > Men in the area were required to join whatever army was in the area or > be shot. I have some who are listed on both sides, same man, different > armies, because of the threats to him and his family. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carlene, I'm still facinated by the fact that Lindley Couch served in the Union Army. As you are probably aware, Lindley's older brother, Alfred P. Couch, enlisted in the Missouri State Guard when Governor Claiborne first called for volunteers to protect the state from Federal forces in the summer of 1861, then later served in three different Confederate regiments, serving until the end of the war. Lindley's brother, George W., joined Fristoe's Regiment (Confederate) in the summer of 1864. And if the service of Alfred and George left any doubt as to the Simpson Couch family's sympathies, we have the fact that Simpson named his youngest son, born in November of 1861, Sterling Price Couch. Sterling Price was the general who led the Missouri State Guard against the Union forces in Missouri in the latter half of 1861. Many families with strong southern sympathies named their sons after Sterling Price. I earlier raised the question of whether the Lindley Couch who served in the 40th Missouri (Union) could have been a different Lindley Couch, simply because it was difficult to accept that Simpson Couch's son would have served in the Union Army. But I just checked the list of men who served in Fristoe's Regiment (organized in July of 1864). The men of Company G included Alfred P. Couch, George W. Couch, and Francis M. Couch, all of Webster, Missouri. These would have been three of Simpson Couch's four eldest sons. If the three Couch boys enlisted about July of 1864, they were probably 21, 17 and about 15 years of age (I don't have Francis' exact date of birth). Missing from the list, of course, was their brother, Lindley Couch, who enlisted in the 40th Missouri (Union) in St. Louis a few weeks later, on September 1, 1864. It would sure be interesting to know what circumstances led Lindley Couch to enlist in the Union Army! You have to wonder how he could have gone back to Oregon County after the end of the war, and been accepted by the residents of this area (and by his family!), who were so strongly sympathetic with the Confederate cause. I assume that being the son of as prominent a man as Simpson Couch would have provided some refuge, but it still must have been very difficult, both for Lindley, and for Simpson and his family. Carlene, I have a note in my file that Lindley Couch and his family moved to Bryant, in Saline County, Arkansas, in 1886, and lived there the rest of Lindley's life, except for the year 1893, when the family lived in Couch, in Oregon County. I suspect you may have been the original source of that information. Have you ever heard anything about why Lindley and Mary moved their family from Oregon County to Saline County? Do you know of any relatives or friends who were living in Saline County before Lindley and his family moved there? I find it very interesting that Lindley apparently moved to Saline County in 1886, the same year he applied for a Federal pension based on his service in the Union Army. I can't help but suspect that there was a connection between the two events. I'd love to hear your thoughts, Carlene. Mike > Hi Mike, > > I've wished so many times to be able to do just that! In genealogy, there > seem to be so many "whys" that are impossible for us to figure out at this > point > in time. > > Just maybe the reason Lindley Couch left Oregon Co. right after the Civil > War > was because he had chosen to join the Union Army, causing conflict within > the > family. Then again, WHY would he move to Saline Co., AR; farther into > Confederate sympathizing territory? More questions we can only conjecture > about. > > Please keep in touch if/as you learn more. > > Carlene > Missouri Ozarks > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, Men in the area were required to join whatever army was in the area or be shot. I have some who are listed on both sides, same man, different armies, because of the threats to him and his family. Lanita

Missouri has many death certificates from 190?-195?, as well as military enlistment cards... I have been unable to find anything similar for Arkansas ....anybody know of any? Lanita

In a message dated 3/12/2007 6:51:30 PM Central Standard Time, Mike@landwehr.com writes: > Wouldn't it be great if > we could spend just 15 minutes with one of our ancestors, and ask all those > questions we wonder so often about? > Hi Mike, I've wished so many times to be able to do just that! In genealogy, there seem to be so many "whys" that are impossible for us to figure out at this point in time. Just maybe the reason Lindley Couch left Oregon Co. right after the Civil War was because he had chosen to join the Union Army, causing conflict within the family. Then again, WHY would he move to Saline Co., AR; farther into Confederate sympathizing territory? More questions we can only conjecture about. Please keep in touch if/as you learn more. Carlene Missouri Ozarks ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Josiah, I am not really researching the Kelletts but responded to your query saying perhaps someone had some information about the illusive Kelletts. I guess you could say I was just trying to be a good genealogy "neighbor"! I realize there is nothing about Eliza Jane Kellett prior to her listing in the household of William Wooldridge in Randolph Co., AR in 1850. I really had not puzzled over that fact for two reasons. One, I hadn't thought about it! and two, I had always just heard my mother and her sisters say that Eliza Jane Kellett was their Great Grandfather's mother. After you wrote me privately, I looked on the Randolph Co. website under Marriages. Eliza Kellett married William A. Wooldridge in 1847. In 1844, an Eliza Holt married a Elias Kellett. If Eliza Kellett was Eliza Holt and the 5 year old in 1850 was her son, he was born before they were married. Of course, that certainly happened then as now. Another possiblity is that Elias Kellett was her brother which would make it reasonable that she might have named her new son with William after her brother. The 5 year old could be a young brother. I just don't know. Reports from other family members researching Wooldridges have indicated Eliza died and William then married Harriet Thornbury. Catherine BryantKellett@aol.com wrote: > Catherine: > > > > > I think I talked to you several years ago. I was thinking, that you > lived in Colorado, but I'm not sure. > > There's one Kellett, James Kellett, who came to Arkansas from > Tennessee. He was born between 1780-1790. We have nothing on him or > any marriage for him. We do believe, that maybe he was married to Lavinia. > > James Kellett was in the Lawrence Co, AR 1830's Census. See Below... > > James KELLETT > 1 male under five years of age > 1 male of five and under ten > 1 male of ten and under fifteen > 3 males of fifteen and under twenty > 1 male of forty and under fifty > 2 females under five years of age > 1 female of five and under ten > 1 female of ten and under fifteen > 1 female of fifteen and under twenty > 1 female of forty and under fifty > for a total of 13 people in this household. There were no slaves or free > colored persons in this household > > > We don't have any of his children counted for or what their names are. > > There's so many unanswered questions about my Kellett family, that > anyone could be your connection. > > Josiah JB Kellett > in Tennessee > used to live in Colorado > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339>.

Catherine: I don't have information Eliza Jane Kellett, who married William Andrews Wooldridge. I checked the Randolph Co, AR 1850's Census. There was James Kellet age 5 living with William and Eliza Wooldridge. I was think that Eliza Jane Kellett, was the daughter of Bryant Kellett and Darcus, but the Dates are way off. Are you sure she was born a Kellett or married to a Kellett? Josiah JB Kellett in Tennessee In a message dated 3/12/2007 6:52:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rmarx2@wi.rr.com writes: With regard to the Kelletts, is Eliza Jane Kellett in your line? She was born about 1823 in Randolph Co., AR and died by 1855. She married William Andrew Wooldridge on Oct. 31, 1847 in Randolph Co., AR. She was my great great grandmother. Catherine <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.