Lanita, The Missouri Death Certificate Project has been a great project for my family research. There are still some mysteries and probably a lot of deaths that never were registered from Oregon County. Pat Dallas,TX Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > I have just spent the afternoon going through the death certificates at > the MO archives for some of my families. At first I didn't look at > those whose names I didn't have in my database, but after finding some > infants that I didn't know about whose info provided some answers, I > have now gone back and tried all of those in the area. I have found > many new leads, and am quite excited at this new info. I thought I > would share that key with you. So, don't be afraid to try all of them, > there are some real treasures out there to find in those certificates!! > > http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#search > > Good luck! > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Lanita, I have used the Missouri Death Certificate website so much. We have family in Texas, Howell, Dent, Shannon and Oregon County. My dad's House line was extensive in Missouri and Arkansas. I was looking for one of his grandmother's sister's lines and found Allie Margaret Green by putting in Margaret and going through all of the Margaret's in Howell County. Found her! She had married Thomas West and without the death certificates I would never have found her, her husband or family. I was then able to trace her family back in the census. Not always lucky tho, tried her sister, Mary Martha Green in Howell, Shannon and Texas counties but she must have moved out of the area. I wish that every state had the same kind of website, wonderful for researching! My sister and I order the five at a time that are not available to be copied yet. As soon as we get one order back we send another one, have found lots of info that way. Pat, you are sure correct that a lot of deaths were never registered. I have a great aunt who died in the 40's, have her obit, tombstone picture, and funeral record but no death certificate. We have even tried with different spellings but no luck! Marguerette Pat Miller <pgmiller@flash.net> wrote: Lanita, The Missouri Death Certificate Project has been a great project for my family research. There are still some mysteries and probably a lot of deaths that never were registered from Oregon County. Pat Dallas,TX

Lanita, Good idea. Thanks for sharing. In reconstructing the 1890 Idaho Federal census, a volunteer went through the 1900 census and listed the children who were born in Idaho and were 10 or more years old in the 1900 census--the assumption being that they were alive and living in Idaho in 1890. Another novel way to look at existing data. Joan Griffin Rusk

I have just spent the afternoon going through the death certificates at the MO archives for some of my families. At first I didn't look at those whose names I didn't have in my database, but after finding some infants that I didn't know about whose info provided some answers, I have now gone back and tried all of those in the area. I have found many new leads, and am quite excited at this new info. I thought I would share that key with you. So, don't be afraid to try all of them, there are some real treasures out there to find in those certificates!! http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/#search Good luck! Lanita

According to Lewis Simpson, deceased historian from Alton, the name Oregon was selected for Oregon County because the Oregon Trail was very much in the news in those days and the people liked the name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Phillips" <okienms@telepath.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > It was never named Webster. Oregon county was created in 1845 from part of > Ripley County. Ripley County was created in 1833 from part of Wayne > County. Wayne county was created before statehood and covered about the > area of everything south of and including Springfield. > Webster County was created in 1855 from land that was part of the original > Wayne county. > > Gene > > At 09:17 AM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >>Lanita, I have been curious about how Oregon Co. camed to be named that. >>Do >>you have any idea or even why it was changed from Webster? >> >>Jane Foley >>NC >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> >>To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 PM >>Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary >> >> >>> Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to >>> Oregon. >>> >>> Lanita >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When Howell County was created from half of Oregon County, the county seat of Oregon County that is Thomasville was left too far to the edge and not adhering to the rule to have county seats near the center of the county. Leaders were selected to meet and find a new location as well as a name for the new county seat. They met in a house near where Alton now sits, The name of Alton was selected as easy to say and spell because the new county clerk was poor at spelling. He proved that in the very first set of notes he took by spelling it Owlton. Much of the migration to Oregon County was from near Marshfield, the county seat of Webster County. That migration was set off in two waves, the opening of land in Oregon County about 1870 and the railroad which was being built in 1882 but most of the people moved to Thayer around 1884-5. Marshfield was settled by many from eastern TN and southern KY around the Cumberland Gap area which was the case with my ancestors. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Webster > Sorry, all of the Oregon Co boys were listed as being in WEBSTER > County, the old county name before they came up with Oregon. It was > indeed a part of Ripley but the 1st name was Webster and not Oregon Co. > It was that name a very short while, I've been trying to find where I > found that.. will get back to you. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, Fristo's Regiment is on our E. G. Gerdes Civil War pages and has rosters. http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/fristodx.htm http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/ Hope this helps. Jeri Helms Fultz_______________________________ "but I remain your affectinate cosin untill death" Thank you again ggrandpa Davis for those words. Never dreamed I'd get to use em! ______________________________ Personal webpages - http://home.earthlink.net/~jerifultz/ Edward G. Gerdes AR Civil War pages. http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/ Lawrence Co Arkansas Pages http://www.couchgenweb.com/lawrence/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <mo-oregon-history-request@rootsweb.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: MO-OREGON-HISTORY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 61 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary (Jane Foley) > 2. Re: Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary (Gene Phillips) > 3. Re: Webster (Lanita Sconce Smith) > 4. Webster (Lanita Sconce Smith) > 5. Re: Webster (Gene Phillips) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:17:45 -0400 > From: "Jane Foley" <mjfent@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00fe01c7841f$d620e0c0$6101a8c0@D1F3R881> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Lanita, I have been curious about how Oregon Co. camed to be named that. > Do > you have any idea or even why it was changed from Webster? > > Jane Foley > NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> > To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > > >> Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to >> Oregon. >> >> Lanita >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:05:37 -0500 > From: Gene Phillips <okienms@telepath.com> > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > To: mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <E1HfQWg-0006Jv-Jj@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It was never named Webster. Oregon county was created in 1845 from part of > Ripley County. Ripley County was created in 1833 from part of Wayne > County. Wayne county was created before statehood and covered about the > area of everything south of and including Springfield. > Webster County was created in 1855 from land that was part of the original > Wayne county. > > Gene > > At 09:17 AM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >>Lanita, I have been curious about how Oregon Co. camed to be named that. >>Do >>you have any idea or even why it was changed from Webster? >> >>Jane Foley >>NC >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> >>To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 PM >>Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary >> >> >>> Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to >>> Oregon. >>> >>> Lanita >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:16:45 -0500 > From: Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Webster > To: mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1c28d2982fedef3378378e7763c01b62@grm.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Sorry, all of the Oregon Co boys were listed as being in WEBSTER > County, the old county name before they came up with Oregon. It was > indeed a part of Ripley but the 1st name was Webster and not Oregon Co. > It was that name a very short while, I've been trying to find where I > found that.. will get back to you. > > Lanita > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:21:03 -0500 > From: Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> > Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Webster > To: OREGON CO HISTORY HISTORY <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <e5bcbfe6815a7e2101537f23d9137e00@grm.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Okay, I found my confusion. Simpson Couch landed in Oregon Co./Ripley > Co./Lawrence Co., AR, in 1830s. When he settled in the land we now know > as Oregon Co in the Couch community, the community was 1st named HY and > then the name was changed to WEBSTER before Simpson changed it to > COUCH. > > Here are just some of the original names of locations in the county and > what they are called now: > > NOW/THEN > Couch/ Hy and also called WEBSTER > > Thomasville/Rich Hill > > Alton/Owlton > > Pleasant Hill/Seed Tick > > Greer crossing/Bellow Falls > > Bardley/Tightwad > > New Liberty/Brawley > > Joliff Springs/Goober Creek > > Riverton/Johnson's Ferry > > Royal Oak/Stringtown > > Thayer/Division then it was called Augusta > > > > Hope this helps! > Lanita > > I think my family tree is a few branches short of full bloom. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:38:31 -0500 > From: Gene Phillips <okienms@telepath.com> > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Webster > To: mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <E1HfSOU-00025r-IA@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I just looked at Ed's and it listed them as being from Webster, MO. The > first page of the history shows that Company G, the company the Couch boys > were in was formed in Webster TOWNSHIP. Apparently that township no longer > exists or the name changed. It could also be in a neighboring county and > that was the closest place they could sign up. A note on Ed's page says > the location listed is the place of enlistment, but may also be place of > residence. > > My gg-grandfather Benjamin Phillips was also in Company G and he lived in > Piney Township in Oregon County. > > Gene > > At 08:16 PM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >>Sorry, all of the Oregon Co boys were listed as being in WEBSTER >>County, the old county name before they came up with Oregon. It was >>indeed a part of Ripley but the 1st name was Webster and not Oregon Co. >>It was that name a very short while, I've been trying to find where I >>found that.. will get back to you. >> >>Lanita >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MO-OREGON-HISTORY list administrator, send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MO-OREGON-HISTORY mailing list, send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MO-OREGON-HISTORY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 61 > ************************************************ >

I just looked at Ed's and it listed them as being from Webster, MO. The first page of the history shows that Company G, the company the Couch boys were in was formed in Webster TOWNSHIP. Apparently that township no longer exists or the name changed. It could also be in a neighboring county and that was the closest place they could sign up. A note on Ed's page says the location listed is the place of enlistment, but may also be place of residence. My gg-grandfather Benjamin Phillips was also in Company G and he lived in Piney Township in Oregon County. Gene At 08:16 PM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >Sorry, all of the Oregon Co boys were listed as being in WEBSTER >County, the old county name before they came up with Oregon. It was >indeed a part of Ripley but the 1st name was Webster and not Oregon Co. >It was that name a very short while, I've been trying to find where I >found that.. will get back to you. > >Lanita > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay, I found my confusion. Simpson Couch landed in Oregon Co./Ripley Co./Lawrence Co., AR, in 1830s. When he settled in the land we now know as Oregon Co in the Couch community, the community was 1st named HY and then the name was changed to WEBSTER before Simpson changed it to COUCH. Here are just some of the original names of locations in the county and what they are called now: NOW/THEN Couch/ Hy and also called WEBSTER Thomasville/Rich Hill Alton/Owlton Pleasant Hill/Seed Tick Greer crossing/Bellow Falls Bardley/Tightwad New Liberty/Brawley Joliff Springs/Goober Creek Riverton/Johnson's Ferry Royal Oak/Stringtown Thayer/Division then it was called Augusta Hope this helps! Lanita I think my family tree is a few branches short of full bloom.

Sorry, all of the Oregon Co boys were listed as being in WEBSTER County, the old county name before they came up with Oregon. It was indeed a part of Ripley but the 1st name was Webster and not Oregon Co. It was that name a very short while, I've been trying to find where I found that.. will get back to you. Lanita

It was never named Webster. Oregon county was created in 1845 from part of Ripley County. Ripley County was created in 1833 from part of Wayne County. Wayne county was created before statehood and covered about the area of everything south of and including Springfield. Webster County was created in 1855 from land that was part of the original Wayne county. Gene At 09:17 AM 4/21/2007, you wrote: >Lanita, I have been curious about how Oregon Co. camed to be named that. Do >you have any idea or even why it was changed from Webster? > >Jane Foley >NC > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> >To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 PM >Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > > >> Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to >> Oregon. >> >> Lanita >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lanita, I have been curious about how Oregon Co. camed to be named that. Do you have any idea or even why it was changed from Webster? Jane Foley NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to > Oregon. > > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Doris, for the book name to supply the source. Thanks too for all you do voluntarily at the library for all of us researchers! Lanita

Oregon Co. was originally named Webster before they changed it to Oregon. Lanita

Doris, The reference to Webster County is in error. I believe that it is an error in transcription, but am not sure. It is a reference to the village of Webster, which was a former name for the village of Couch, Missouri. Mike Landwehr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Johnson" <d_john@ortrackm.missouri.org> To: "MO OREGON HISTORY" <MO-OREGON-HISTORY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Fristoe's Regiment, MO Calvary > This was interesting to me, perhaps will be to others. In History of > Fristoe's Regiment Missouri Calvary, CSA compiled and written by Ed > Grooms, I noticed that COUCH, Alfred P.; COUCH, Francis M. and COUCH, > George W. all had Webster County listed as residence or place of > enlistment. I thought they all had Oregon County roots. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was interesting to me, perhaps will be to others. In History of Fristoe's Regiment Missouri Calvary, CSA compiled and written by Ed Grooms, I noticed that COUCH, Alfred P.; COUCH, Francis M. and COUCH, George W. all had Webster County listed as residence or place of enlistment. I thought they all had Oregon County roots.

First: in reply to Carolyn Boone's question about Jerry Ponder's death. It was sometime before August, 2005. It was mentioned at the August 25, 2005 meeting of Oregon County Genealogical Society. Second: to Lanita; The list of Confederate Parolees was taken from Confederate Surrender and Parole; Jacksonport and Wittsburg, Arkansas, May and June 1865. Compiled by Jerry Ponder and Victor Ponder, 1995. Doris

Jerry W. Ponder died 16 Jul 2005 Mason County, TX N On Thu Apr 19 6:52 , carolyn boone <williamboone1669@sbcglobal.net> sent: >Doris, > When did Jerry Ponder die? > > Carolyn Boone > >Doris Johnson d_john@ortrackm.missouri.org> wrote: > Confederate parolees at Jacksonport, AR, June, 1865 >BELLAH, Charlie; 3Lt. G 15th MO Cav Rgt. >BELLAH, Edward, 3 Sergt. G 15th MO Cav. Regt >BELLAH, Elba; 1 Sergt. G. MO Cav. Regt > >BOZE, A.; Capt. 15th MO Cav Regt >BOZE, A. Capt. ORDO Staff, Reeves Command >BRIMHALL, William, Pvt. K Fristoe's MO Cav >COUCH, Alfred P.; Pvt. G Fristoe's MO Cav >COUCH, Francis M.; Pvt. G. Fristoe's MO Cav >COUCH, George; Pvt. G Fristoe's MO Cav >LAFFOON, T. M.; Pvt. F 6th. MO Cav Regt >LAFOON, E. M. F.; Pvt. B. Fristoe's MO Cav >LAFOON, L.C.S.; Pvt. B. Fristoe's MO Cav > >The above names were taken from a book in the OCGS Library. I believe the material was compiled by the late Jerry Ponder of Doniphan, MO. >I copied the names and abbreviations as they appeared in the book. I knew the names were some that were being researched. Most likely this information has already been obtained. Nevertheless, it's always worth putting it out. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------ Sent via APlusWebmail.com, a service of APlusHosting.com

Thanks Doris!! You have added more info that I didn't have! What book were these names taken from? Lanita

Doris, When did Jerry Ponder die? Carolyn Boone Doris Johnson <d_john@ortrackm.missouri.org> wrote: Confederate parolees at Jacksonport, AR, June, 1865 BELLAH, Charlie; 3Lt. G 15th MO Cav Rgt. BELLAH, Edward, 3 Sergt. G 15th MO Cav. Regt BELLAH, Elba; 1 Sergt. G. MO Cav. Regt BOZE, A.; Capt. 15th MO Cav Regt BOZE, A. Capt. ORDO Staff, Reeves Command BRIMHALL, William, Pvt. K Fristoe's MO Cav COUCH, Alfred P.; Pvt. G Fristoe's MO Cav COUCH, Francis M.; Pvt. G. Fristoe's MO Cav COUCH, George; Pvt. G Fristoe's MO Cav LAFFOON, T. M.; Pvt. F 6th. MO Cav Regt LAFOON, E. M. F.; Pvt. B. Fristoe's MO Cav LAFOON, L.C.S.; Pvt. B. Fristoe's MO Cav The above names were taken from a book in the OCGS Library. I believe the material was compiled by the late Jerry Ponder of Doniphan, MO. I copied the names and abbreviations as they appeared in the book. I knew the names were some that were being researched. Most likely this information has already been obtained. Nevertheless, it's always worth putting it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message