Can anyone tell me if W.C. Amerman's undertaking records still exist? He was the undertaker in Koskonong when both of my grandparents died in 1913 and 1914. I wonder if he might have also been undertaker when my grandmother's parents died in 1909 and 1910. Pat Miller Dallas,TX

I am searching for WINNINGHAM. Any assistance would be appreciated. Reba Dimond

At 09:17 PM 6/14/2007, you wrote: >Where did we get the info that Martha (Looney?) was possibly sister of >husband Bill's Joseph Looney (who m. Coleman's sister Thena Stubblefield)? This is a question I have thought about to some extent. The genesis of calling Coleman STUBBLEFIELD's wife Martha LOONEY is not of recent origin and predates the internet by decades. In otherwords people long dead were comfortable calling her Martha LOONEY. Nor was it ever questioned by David TRIMBLE author of the book "Stroud and Stubblefield in Virginia" and he was reluctant to even accept our William, father of Coleman, was a son of Robert STUBBLEFIELD and wife Ann [WYATT?] at first. I just rechecked his book and clear as can be Martha LOONEY b. 29 Jan 1790. In fact not a single early STUBBLEFIELD researcher I am aware of had a problem with the claim. The doubting Thomas phenomenon is of recent origin. Coleman STUBBLEFIELD was administrator of the estate of Joseph LOONEY after all. The connections between the family of Joseph LOONEY and Martha wife of Coleman are not hard to believe or verify. So I think there is more reason to accept she was a LOONEY than that she was not. Was she a widow? I can't match her up. And the main problem you have with this LOONEY line is if you accept the premise that she was indeed Martha LOONEY her age nearly of necessity would make her a grand-daughter of the founders of the Southern LOONEY line, Absolum LOONEY and Margaret MOORE. The Michael LOONEY Nita FRY mentions in her post is a son of Absolum & Margaret. So if it was not Jonathan LOONEY and Jane HARBISON who were parents of Martha you have to start looking at the other brothers. Jonathan did move on to Tennessee, as did Michael LOONEY & Temperence CROSS. Martha's parents almost had to have moved from Virginia on into Tennessee as well. Tracking down the fates of the other sons of Absolum & Margaret LOONEY is about the only way to pinpoint an alternative to Jonathan LOONEY and Jane HARBISON. So I don't have answers but hopefully there is some food for thought somewhere in this post, lol. james wall

Carolyn, Yes, I knew you had the Bible and you graciously sent me a copy of the relevant pages some years ago. I also knew the Bible only gave Martha Stubblefield as her name. Very aggravating, isn't it? At least it gave her birth date. I keep hoping someone new will come on the genealogy sites with just the information we need to untangle this family. One can only hope. I have corresponded with James Wall, also. Perhaps he has something new to offer, otherwise, we are still at this brick wall. If we could only get another male Looney descendent from this line to take the DNA test, we might be able to begin to untangle the lines. Thanks for your reply. Nita In a message dated 6/14/2007 9:17:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: Nita, the Bible page just says Martha STUBBLEFIELD - I just looked again to be sure! Perhaps James Wall would participate in this discussion!!!!! He is really one of the best in straitening out the tangles! ----- Original Message ----- From: <N5BRY@aol.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- Martha & Joseph Looney > > Carolyn, Kara and others tracking Martha Looney, > > We need records that don't seem to be available. Some questions > continue: > > Did we originally get the idea Martha was a Looney from Coleman's Bible > giving her birthdate? > > Where did we get the info that Martha (Looney?) was possibly sister of > husband Bill's Joseph Looney (who m. Coleman's sister Thena Stubblefield)? > > Is that why we thought Martha was Looney since families frequently > intermarried and traveled together? > > If Joseph and Martha were Looney siblings's, whose children were they? > > I have thoroughly researched Jonathan and Jane Harbison Looney and there > is > absolutely no evidence they ever had children that grew to adulthood and > certainly not found on any records - anywhere. > > Husband Bill is a direct descendent of the above Joseph and Thena > Stubblefield Looney. However, he could not do the DNA for the Looney > project since he > has dropped off the Looney direct male line through his Grandmother Thena > Elizabeth Looney Clinging. > > We knew another direct male descendent from the Joseph and Thena line who > did carry the Looney name and asked him to do the DNA for us. (through > his > Joseph/Thena to Wm. Stubblefield Looney line) He did the test and tested > completely out of the Looney gene pool. > > His closest match beyond the first 12 marker is with a Metcalfe in > England. > There were Metcalfe's in the colonies very early and in Hawkins Co, TN.. > Was Joseph perhaps a product of a Metcalfe and Looney female in Hawkins > Co? Or > an adoptee but carrying the Looney name? Was someone on our donor's > particular line an adoptee, etc., and someone from perhaps the Metcalfe > line? > > To get a clearer picture of Joseph and Martha Looney, we desperately need > another direct Looney male to test from this Joseph's line. If we can > find > where Joseph came from, perhaps it will lead us to where Martha belongs, > also. > > We have offered to pay the DNA testing fees, but no descendent has come > forward to take us up on the offer. One kind soul from another Looney > line > offered but that was not going to give us the DNA evidence we needed. > > Unless we find out where Joseph came from , I doubt we will ever know > where > Martha came from, either. > > I have found records indicating that Wm. Stubblefield was in Hawkins Co., > TN > for 18 years (from 1792) prior to his arriving in AR early 1800's. That > puts the family in the same area as Michael (3) Looney whose son, Wm. m. > Rhoda > Stubblefield, daughter of Wm. Stubblefield. Perhaps there were other > Looney > families in Hawkins Co., at the same time.. > > Any help here, or fresh ideas, would be appreciated. > > Nita Fry > > > > > > In a message dated 6/13/2007 8:20:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Think there is some question now about whether Martha was a Looney after > all. > Anyone out there know? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K S" <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> > To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- > > >> My connection is Sarah (Carnard) Stubbelfeild she was married to Absolom >> W. Stubblefield 2 May 1844. Then married 15 Jul 1856 Jacob Sammons, my >> 4th > >> great grand Uncle. Absolom W. Stubbelefield was s/o Coleman Stubblefield >> and Martha Looney. >> >> Anything? >> >> Kara >> >> >> Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! >> The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - >> Scotland >> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Nita, the Bible page just says Martha STUBBLEFIELD - I just looked again to be sure! Perhaps James Wall would participate in this discussion!!!!! He is really one of the best in straitening out the tangles! ----- Original Message ----- From: <N5BRY@aol.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- Martha & Joseph Looney > > Carolyn, Kara and others tracking Martha Looney, > > We need records that don't seem to be available. Some questions > continue: > > Did we originally get the idea Martha was a Looney from Coleman's Bible > giving her birthdate? > > Where did we get the info that Martha (Looney?) was possibly sister of > husband Bill's Joseph Looney (who m. Coleman's sister Thena Stubblefield)? > > Is that why we thought Martha was Looney since families frequently > intermarried and traveled together? > > If Joseph and Martha were Looney siblings's, whose children were they? > > I have thoroughly researched Jonathan and Jane Harbison Looney and there > is > absolutely no evidence they ever had children that grew to adulthood and > certainly not found on any records - anywhere. > > Husband Bill is a direct descendent of the above Joseph and Thena > Stubblefield Looney. However, he could not do the DNA for the Looney > project since he > has dropped off the Looney direct male line through his Grandmother Thena > Elizabeth Looney Clinging. > > We knew another direct male descendent from the Joseph and Thena line who > did carry the Looney name and asked him to do the DNA for us. (through > his > Joseph/Thena to Wm. Stubblefield Looney line) He did the test and tested > completely out of the Looney gene pool. > > His closest match beyond the first 12 marker is with a Metcalfe in > England. > There were Metcalfe's in the colonies very early and in Hawkins Co, TN.. > Was Joseph perhaps a product of a Metcalfe and Looney female in Hawkins > Co? Or > an adoptee but carrying the Looney name? Was someone on our donor's > particular line an adoptee, etc., and someone from perhaps the Metcalfe > line? > > To get a clearer picture of Joseph and Martha Looney, we desperately need > another direct Looney male to test from this Joseph's line. If we can > find > where Joseph came from, perhaps it will lead us to where Martha belongs, > also. > > We have offered to pay the DNA testing fees, but no descendent has come > forward to take us up on the offer. One kind soul from another Looney > line > offered but that was not going to give us the DNA evidence we needed. > > Unless we find out where Joseph came from , I doubt we will ever know > where > Martha came from, either. > > I have found records indicating that Wm. Stubblefield was in Hawkins Co., > TN > for 18 years (from 1792) prior to his arriving in AR early 1800's. That > puts the family in the same area as Michael (3) Looney whose son, Wm. m. > Rhoda > Stubblefield, daughter of Wm. Stubblefield. Perhaps there were other > Looney > families in Hawkins Co., at the same time.. > > Any help here, or fresh ideas, would be appreciated. > > Nita Fry > > > > > > In a message dated 6/13/2007 8:20:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Think there is some question now about whether Martha was a Looney after > all. > Anyone out there know? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K S" <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> > To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- > > >> My connection is Sarah (Carnard) Stubbelfeild she was married to Absolom >> W. Stubblefield 2 May 1844. Then married 15 Jul 1856 Jacob Sammons, my >> 4th > >> great grand Uncle. Absolom W. Stubbelefield was s/o Coleman Stubblefield >> and Martha Looney. >> >> Anything? >> >> Kara >> >> >> Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! >> The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - >> Scotland >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marguerette, thanks so much for sending my e-mail on to Marilyn. Didn't know if she was on the site or not but was hoping she would get it. I'm so happy to find any information or pictures and will share. I have a picture of Martin House son of Hollingsworth and Milly Thomas and also Harriett House Huddleston, Laura Matney House wife of Joseph House. Sure hated to hear about your husband, hope things get better. My brother had it and he stayed with us, so know what your going through. Thanks so much for sending my address on to Marilyn, I really appreciate it.Fern Harris

Fern, Marilyn is not on the list so I forwarded your e-mail on to her with your address. I don't know if you also sent her an e-mail or not. My husband has cancer and he is going through the chemo and radiation now so not doing much e-mail or copies now. Marilyn is also going to make Dolores Warren copies of the death certificates. Marguerette House Powell Fern <fernharris@charter.net> wrote: Marilyn, received your e-mail and I would love to have the death certificates of Tabitha House Watson and George House. Will gladly pay for them and the postage. It was a thrill to know you had them. If theres anything you would like Iwould be glad to send. Thanks so much. My address is- Fern Harris- 3400 So. Missouri- Sedalia, Mo. 65301 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marilyn, received your e-mail and I would live to have the death certificates of Tabitha House Watson and George House. Will gladly pay for them and the postage. It was a thrill to know you had them. If theres anything you would like Iwould be glad to send. Thanks so much. My address is- Fern Harris- 3400 So. Missouri- Sedalia, Mo. 65301

Carolyn, Kara and others tracking Martha Looney, We need records that don't seem to be available. Some questions continue: Did we originally get the idea Martha was a Looney from Coleman's Bible giving her birthdate? Where did we get the info that Martha (Looney?) was possibly sister of husband Bill's Joseph Looney (who m. Coleman's sister Thena Stubblefield)? Is that why we thought Martha was Looney since families frequently intermarried and traveled together? If Joseph and Martha were Looney siblings's, whose children were they? I have thoroughly researched Jonathan and Jane Harbison Looney and there is absolutely no evidence they ever had children that grew to adulthood and certainly not found on any records - anywhere. Husband Bill is a direct descendent of the above Joseph and Thena Stubblefield Looney. However, he could not do the DNA for the Looney project since he has dropped off the Looney direct male line through his Grandmother Thena Elizabeth Looney Clinging. We knew another direct male descendent from the Joseph and Thena line who did carry the Looney name and asked him to do the DNA for us. (through his Joseph/Thena to Wm. Stubblefield Looney line) He did the test and tested completely out of the Looney gene pool. His closest match beyond the first 12 marker is with a Metcalfe in England. There were Metcalfe's in the colonies very early and in Hawkins Co, TN.. Was Joseph perhaps a product of a Metcalfe and Looney female in Hawkins Co? Or an adoptee but carrying the Looney name? Was someone on our donor's particular line an adoptee, etc., and someone from perhaps the Metcalfe line? To get a clearer picture of Joseph and Martha Looney, we desperately need another direct Looney male to test from this Joseph's line. If we can find where Joseph came from, perhaps it will lead us to where Martha belongs, also. We have offered to pay the DNA testing fees, but no descendent has come forward to take us up on the offer. One kind soul from another Looney line offered but that was not going to give us the DNA evidence we needed. Unless we find out where Joseph came from , I doubt we will ever know where Martha came from, either. I have found records indicating that Wm. Stubblefield was in Hawkins Co., TN for 18 years (from 1792) prior to his arriving in AR early 1800's. That puts the family in the same area as Michael (3) Looney whose son, Wm. m. Rhoda Stubblefield, daughter of Wm. Stubblefield. Perhaps there were other Looney families in Hawkins Co., at the same time.. Any help here, or fresh ideas, would be appreciated. Nita Fry In a message dated 6/13/2007 8:20:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, cbkrodell@sbcglobal.net writes: Think there is some question now about whether Martha was a Looney after all. Anyone out there know? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K S" <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- > My connection is Sarah (Carnard) Stubbelfeild she was married to Absolom > W. Stubblefield 2 May 1844. Then married 15 Jul 1856 Jacob Sammons, my 4th > great grand Uncle. Absolom W. Stubbelefield was s/o Coleman Stubblefield > and Martha Looney. > > Anything? > > Kara > > > Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! > The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My Oregon County surnames are: Brewer, Roberts, Sisk, Robertson Thank you! Jo

Hi Carolyn, My Boone was married to Lafayette Hamon. Her name was Lelia Cora Boone b. 1856 Virginia and died 29 Apr 1936 Corpus Christi, Tx. Her parents were D. Gettings Boone and Melissa Jane Parsons. Let me know if this is your line. Kara Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

I am with Fern on this one: Tabitha House Watson (1846-1938); Robert King (1848 IL - 1876 MO), possibly son of Wilzey King; William Edward Peters; LouElla Davis Godwin Otten (1882-1947) ~ parents are from TN; Laura / Lorine Godwin (1903 - ?) possibly married a Bingham, probably moved to OK; Ginger Fern <fernharris@charter.net> wrote: My connection is Carl Miller born 1837-1912, Sophia (Soldo) Miller born 1837-?, Charley Miller 1866-1947. Sarah Elizabeth (Eberhart) Miller 1866, Sam Watson 1855-1925, Tabitha (House) Watson 1846-1938, F.R. Judd 1867-1951, Cora (Watson) Judd 1880-1964, Would love to hear from anyone. fernharris@charter.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.

Hello, I am interested in the Boone Family of KS. Carolyn Boone K S <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi List, My maine name is Sammons (Simmons,Sammonds, Simons, Salmons, Sammans,Samons) and anything that branches off of that. John Sammons b. 1797 d. abt 1861-1870 Randolph Co. Ark. Samuel Sammons b. 1832 d. 1879 Randolph Co. Ark. William Ingram Sammons b. 1856 Randolph Co. Ark. They moved back and forth from Randolph Ark. to Ripley and Oregon Co. Mo. I can't find them any of them in the 1870 Census in Ark. or Missouri. If anyone can shed light on that I'd be very happy. My other lines off the Sammons's are: Buchannan, Brewer, Hall,Smith, Stubblefield, Starling, Parks, Jones, Brooks, Stout, Tinker, Franks, Downey. Those are just a few. I'm always willing to share information, just let me know. Other names are: Hamon (Hammon), McKinney, Wooldridge,Vinson, Gossage, Gibbs, Hurst, Holtzclaw, Shipman, Boone, Butler, Futrell, Calhoun, Kirkland. Thanks, Kara Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of the surnames that I am interested in from that area are Roush, Ledbetter, Ledgerwood, Weaver, DePriest, Goodman, Henry, and Chowing, Appreciate any help that I might find. Willing to exchange information. Toni Roush Springfield, MO. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Oregon County, MO and Fulton/Izard Co., AR: Reilley/Riley, Shurron/Sharron (pronounced like the girls name Sharon), Hodges, Roach, Bearden, Hodnett. --- Reilley and Hodges from Kentucky to Fulton Co, Ar in about 1878 and to Oregon Co 1890.; Shurron from N.C. and TN and then Oregon Co., Roach from Illinois, Bearden from TN then IL then to Oregon Co and then to Fulton Co, AR, Hodnett is Hodges related from VA. Other interests not related to Oregon Co are: Cox, Clair, Godby, Hale, Moore, Childres, McNatt, Berkey and Sears. Some adopted in are Stewart and McCoy. Pat Miller Dallas,TX

Think there is some question now about whether Martha was a Looney after all. Anyone out there know? ----- Original Message ----- From: "K S" <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- > My connection is Sarah (Carnard) Stubbelfeild she was married to Absolom > W. Stubblefield 2 May 1844. Then married 15 Jul 1856 Jacob Sammons, my 4th > great grand Uncle. Absolom W. Stubbelefield was s/o Coleman Stubblefield > and Martha Looney. > > Anything? > > Kara > > > Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! > The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

laughing.......well that doesn't suprise me! If anyone knows, I'm all ears. Thanks, Kara Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

Kara, what is your Stubblefield connection I descend from William/Elizabeth, then Coleman/Martha, Abraham/Selitha Evaline/ Nathaniel/Flora Belle. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "K S" <blondeone2@sbcglobal.net> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] ROLL CALL- > Hi List, > > My maine name is Sammons (Simmons,Sammonds, Simons, Salmons, > Sammans,Samons) and anything that branches off of that. John Sammons b. > 1797 d. abt 1861-1870 Randolph Co. Ark. Samuel Sammons b. 1832 d. 1879 > Randolph Co. Ark. William Ingram Sammons b. 1856 Randolph Co. Ark. They > moved back and forth from Randolph Ark. to Ripley and Oregon Co. Mo. I > can't find them any of them in the 1870 Census in Ark. or Missouri. If > anyone can shed light on that I'd be very happy. > > My other lines off the Sammons's are: Buchannan, Brewer, Hall,Smith, > Stubblefield, Starling, Parks, Jones, Brooks, Stout, Tinker, Franks, > Downey. Those are just a few. I'm always willing to share information, > just let me know. > > Other names are: Hamon (Hammon), McKinney, Wooldridge,Vinson, Gossage, > Gibbs, Hurst, Holtzclaw, Shipman, Boone, Butler, Futrell, Calhoun, > Kirkland. > > Thanks, > > Kara > > > Kara- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! > The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

All Jobe families and descendants. My own branch is from Eli B. JOBE who married Prudnece ?, through their son, Jesse Jobe who married Susan Ann McINTIRE (d/o William McIntire THOMAS and gd/o Ephriam Thomas and Maria Catharina 'Caty' TEAL). Great grandfather was Jesse's son, Caleb JOBE (1847 Oregon Co., MO - 1925 Foard Co., Texas). Caleb was raised by his Uncle Elijah Jobe and his wife, Mary M. PARRACK - d/o John PARRACK and Lourana CYPRET. Caleb married Martha Emily BREWER December 17, 1868 Jobe Twp, Oregon Co., MO. She was d/o John R. BREWER and Cynthia HALL. Many connecting lines in the area. Check our my website at: My Own Jobe Branch of Oregon Co., MO http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/jobe/oregon.html William McIntire and Jane Thomas http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/mcintire.html Ephriam Thomas and Caty Teal http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/thomas.html John R. Brewer and Cynthia Hall http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ajobebrown/brewer.html *Especially looking for any old photos of any descendants of these families or any of the other Jobe families in the area. Ann (Jobe) Brown

My connection is Carl Miller born 1837-1912, Sophia (Soldo) Miller born 1837-?, Charley Miller 1866-1947. Sarah Elizabeth (Eberhart) Miller 1866, Sam Watson 1855-1925, Tabitha (House) Watson 1846-1938, F.R. Judd 1867-1951, Cora (Watson) Judd 1880-1964, Would love to hear from anyone. fernharris@charter.net