thanks for the email...i live in fla, ...i have the family bibles, and 2 ambrotypes of wilburn h, hash, he was a confederate solider, and a obit shows he was buried in lonesome hill cem, 1916, and there is one in laclede co mo...so...if i can prove he is there, some group might want to put a csa marker on him, and i need to contact a hash decendent too see if they want to purchase these items..he was born in grayson co va....thank you for your assistance..charles..:o)...

Charles, Lawrence County, MO has a pretty complete cemetery listing that is in a lot of libraries. There is a very active Lawrence County, MO list and somebody on it would probably have a book. I don't have the cemetery book, but the Dallas main library has a copy. Whrre are you located? Pat Dallas,TX CHARLES PAVLU <PAVLU@webtv.net> wrote: wilburn hash,51st va inf, was buried at lonesome hill cem,1906,and i thing in lawarance co mo..around brush creek mo,,.any ideas how i can find him?...thanks...charles...:o).... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

wilburn hash,51st va inf, was buried at lonesome hill cem,1906,and i thing in lawarance co mo..around brush creek mo,,.any ideas how i can find him?...thanks...charles...:o)....

Toni, Sorry to hear that you won't be able to go. Hopefully things will be better next year. Lanita

Lanita, I usually go every year but am so disappointed that I will not be able to attend this year. I just had complete knee replacement and they also had to lengthen the leg while doing it. I am just not doing well enough to make the trip yet. My husband thought about taking me up for only Saturday but I am just not ready for even that yet. Hope you have a good time. I sure would have loved to met you there. Toni Roush Springfield, Missouri ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Martha, I will be there on Saturday.. what conferences are you signed up for? Lanita

I will be attending the meetings this Friday and Saturday. Martha Hentges _________________________________________________________________ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07

Anybody on the list going to be at Jeff city this weekend for the state Gen. Conferences? Lanita

Thanks, Judy. Will do. Lanita

Is there a website that would list the Oregon Co., Mo, cemetery lists of burials? Thanks, Nita Fry ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Lanita, You might check with the Ripley County List if you have not done that. Their administrator Jackie Wood, tanimara@townsqr.com, is another person who knows an awful lot about Native American history and ancestry. Judy

Pat Miller: In reference to Rufus Dills - Linda "Cruse", the spelling of the name in Oregon County is CREWS. Doris Johnson

Doris, The spelling depends on where you find it. In Illinois it is spelled Cruse until the mid 1900s and then is Crews, but earlier it is spelled phonetically several ways. I found the same in Oregon Co., MO and in North Carolina. It's still the same group, but I don't know how closely related they are. Yet. Pat, Doris Johnson <dorisjohnson@centurytel.net> wrote: Pat Miller: In reference to Rufus Dills - Linda "Cruse", the spelling of the name in Oregon County is CREWS. Doris Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, The key thing to remember on the Miller Guion rolls is that the index is to the names of the applicants of the alleged members of the Eastern Cherokee Tribe. So, if the ancestor who was a Cherokee, and whose name hopefully appears on one of the early rolls of Native Americans, was John Anderson, then the Guion Miller applicant might be an Anderson (descended through the Anderson side of the family), or the applicant might have another surname, if he/she was descended from a daughter or granddaughter of the John Anderson. So you have to consider all living descendants who were adults in 1906-09 as possible applicants. Good luck, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Phillips Miller" <texaspearl@gmail.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Native American/Indian Roll Call Numbers > Mike, > I think the Cherokee came through the Cruse line, but am not sure if the > application name was Cruse. Since I just found out about this, I will have > to read over the genealogy records to see if another name was mentioned. > Thanks for the info. There was a Cruse that married into the Dills family > in Oregon County, MO. Rufus Dills and Linda Cruse (?) and they were from > North Carolina. I'll have to see where the Cruse family came from. The > Miller and Cruse family married in Illinois, but the Millers had been > there > since the early 1800s. Don't know about the Cruse. Will update if I find > anything. > Pat Miller > > > On 7/29/07, Mike Landwehr <Mike@landwehr.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Pat, >> >> I don't find the name CRUSE on the Dawes Roll. There are Guion Miller >> applications, made by Dora J. Cruse, who was living in Arkansas when she >> made application ca 1906-09, and by Elizabeth Cruse, who was living in >> Missouri when she made her application. Both Dora J and Elizabeth Cruse >> would have made their applications in an attempt to prove descendancy >> from >> the Eastern Cherokees. I don't know of any way to find out any more >> about >> these applications without ordering copies. >> >> Mike Landwehr >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pat Phillips Miller" <texaspearl@gmail.com> >> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:57 AM >> Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Native American/Indian Roll Call Numbers >> >> >> > Lanita, >> > If and when you get any information, please post it for all of us. I >> just >> > found out that my husband's family on three sides is Native American. >> > I >> > know that one is Cherokee and that they were offered land in Oklahoma. >> > They >> > have to be registered someplace. One of the names may have been Cruse >> or >> > some spelling of that name. >> > Pat Miller >> > >> > >> > On 7/28/07, Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native >> >> Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something >> >> for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll >> >> Call >> >> numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big >> >> time!! >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Lanita >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mike! The person's number I am looking for, was born in the later 1920s in Florida. I only found one listed for 1924, and he [of course] wasn't listed. Hoping the requester can come up with more information than he initially gave me.. I think the requester thinks there is money to be had [doubtful]. Lanita

Mike, I think the Cherokee came through the Cruse line, but am not sure if the application name was Cruse. Since I just found out about this, I will have to read over the genealogy records to see if another name was mentioned. Thanks for the info. There was a Cruse that married into the Dills family in Oregon County, MO. Rufus Dills and Linda Cruse (?) and they were from North Carolina. I'll have to see where the Cruse family came from. The Miller and Cruse family married in Illinois, but the Millers had been there since the early 1800s. Don't know about the Cruse. Will update if I find anything. Pat Miller On 7/29/07, Mike Landwehr <Mike@landwehr.com> wrote: > > Hi Pat, > > I don't find the name CRUSE on the Dawes Roll. There are Guion Miller > applications, made by Dora J. Cruse, who was living in Arkansas when she > made application ca 1906-09, and by Elizabeth Cruse, who was living in > Missouri when she made her application. Both Dora J and Elizabeth Cruse > would have made their applications in an attempt to prove descendancy from > the Eastern Cherokees. I don't know of any way to find out any more about > these applications without ordering copies. > > Mike Landwehr > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Phillips Miller" <texaspearl@gmail.com> > To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Native American/Indian Roll Call Numbers > > > > Lanita, > > If and when you get any information, please post it for all of us. I > just > > found out that my husband's family on three sides is Native American. I > > know that one is Cherokee and that they were offered land in Oklahoma. > > They > > have to be registered someplace. One of the names may have been Cruse > or > > some spelling of that name. > > Pat Miller > > > > > > On 7/28/07, Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: > >> > >> I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native > >> Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something > >> for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll Call > >> numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big > >> time!! > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lanita > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pat, I don't find the name CRUSE on the Dawes Roll. There are Guion Miller applications, made by Dora J. Cruse, who was living in Arkansas when she made application ca 1906-09, and by Elizabeth Cruse, who was living in Missouri when she made her application. Both Dora J and Elizabeth Cruse would have made their applications in an attempt to prove descendancy from the Eastern Cherokees. I don't know of any way to find out any more about these applications without ordering copies. Mike Landwehr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Phillips Miller" <texaspearl@gmail.com> To: <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Native American/Indian Roll Call Numbers > Lanita, > If and when you get any information, please post it for all of us. I just > found out that my husband's family on three sides is Native American. I > know that one is Cherokee and that they were offered land in Oklahoma. > They > have to be registered someplace. One of the names may have been Cruse or > some spelling of that name. > Pat Miller > > > On 7/28/07, Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: >> >> I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native >> Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something >> for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll Call >> numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big >> time!! >> >> Thanks, >> Lanita >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lanita, I have not done much research in the Native American records, so hope that someone more knowledgable will offer their assistance. In the meantime, I will mention some places to look. There is a lot of material on the internet about how to research Native American background. It is a complex subject, and does take some time to pick up. The only actual experience I have had with an Oregon County family is with the family of Evander F. Betts. In this particular case, I had success with the Guion Miller Rolls. The Guion Miller Rolls were created in the early 1900's (1906-1909 I believe), when the U. S. Government set aside a million dollars to compensate descendants of the Eastern Cherokee Tribe. In this particular case, anyone who believed that they qualified for compensation could make application. In their application, they had to provide evidence of their descendancy from a member of that tribe. There is an on-line index to the 46,000 applications they were submitted, which can be accessed at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/guionmiller/. The applications are indexed under the name of the applicant, and the index provides the name of the applicant, the state where the applicant lived when application was made, and the application number. So, to locate information about an ancestor who was a member of the Eastern Cherokee Tribe, you would search the index for the name of a descendant who might have completed a Guion Miller application 1906-09. If you find an index entry for a descendant who completed an application, you can then order a copy of the application from the National Archives ($17.50). Typically, I believe that the application will contain at least three generations of family information for the applicant. Not all applications were accepted, or admitted. In the case of Evander F. Betts, his application was rejected. But the valuable family information is still on the application. If you find an application that was admitted, the information on the application will unually lead you to other Native American rolls, which will provide additional information. In the case of Evander F. Betts, he may have been a descendant of the Eastern Cherokee Tribe, but his ancestors' names did not appear on earlier Native American rolls, and he was unable to prove Eastern Cherokee ancestry. The National Archives provides another site for searching the Guion Miller Rolls index. Their site is available at http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/native-americans-guion-miller.html. I prefer this site, because it displays images of the actual index pages, and you can search more easily for variant spellings of the applicant's name. The first web site link I provided above will also take you to a search engine for the Dawes Final Rolls. I haven't used these rolls yet, but understand that they provide information about all those members of the Five Civilized Tribes who received land in Indian Territory under the Dawes Act. There are several other rolls with indexes, and explanations, which can be accessed at that same web site. I think it is a good place to begin. Obviously, if helps a lot if you know which tribe you are looking for. Hope this will help, Mike Landwehr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <ozarkn@grm.net> To: "OREGON CO HISTORY HISTORY" <mo-oregon-history@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:32 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Native American/Indian Roll Call Numbers >I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native > Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something > for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll Call > numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big > time!! > > Thanks, > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lanita, If and when you get any information, please post it for all of us. I just found out that my husband's family on three sides is Native American. I know that one is Cherokee and that they were offered land in Oklahoma. They have to be registered someplace. One of the names may have been Cruse or some spelling of that name. Pat Miller On 7/28/07, Lanita Sconce Smith <ozarkn@grm.net> wrote: > > I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native > Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something > for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll Call > numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big > time!! > > Thanks, > Lanita > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MO-OREGON-HISTORY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am not very familiar with researching in the area of the Native Americans and Roll Call numbers they had. I am looking into something for someone else, but does anyone know where I would find the Roll Call numbers for someone in Florida. I need some help in this area, big time!! Thanks, Lanita