If father died and young and had a small child and the child grew up and had a child is the only way I can see that it would not be the second gen. away. Good puzzle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita M" <Lanita@aarcher.com> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Generations > Hi Gang, > > Just one quick genealogy question to pick your brains, before we do the > turkey thing... > > I have come across my possible line but with one of them, theres a problem.. > > Its posted that the father died in 1690, but son was born 1720... Of course, > this is impossible.. My question IS: > > Am I missing 1 or 2 generations? Im thinking 1, but can also see where it > might be 2.. > > Ideas, comments, thoughts?? > > Lanita >

Hi Gang, Just one quick genealogy question to pick your brains, before we do the turkey thing... I have come across my possible line but with one of them, theres a problem.. Its posted that the father died in 1690, but son was born 1720... Of course, this is impossible.. My question IS: Am I missing 1 or 2 generations? Im thinking 1, but can also see where it might be 2.. Ideas, comments, thoughts?? Lanita

The same to you Nancy....lol Have a great Holiday everyone. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <lacywinston@earthlink.net> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Thanksgiving > Gobble, Gobble, My Little Ones! > > After you've picked that turkey carcass clean, sucked down the last of > Aunt Freida's Cranberry Jello Mold, made yourself sick leaving no > evidence of Sweet Potatoes with Marshmallow Topping, the obligatory > Green Bean-Mushroom Soup-Fried Onion Casserole, Cornbread Dressing, > Mama's Gravy, Sweet Butter, Hot Rolls, Creamed Corn, Peas with Bitty > Onions, Pumpkin Pie, Mince Pie, Fudge, Pecan Log, Cheese Log, Assorted > Nuts & Mints and are discovered by returning Holiday Shoppers, stuporous > and glassy-eyed in the Bark-O-Longer, TV blaring College Football, only > apparent signs of life being the Mashed 'Taters stuck to your face - > remember your little family here loves you and after "The Holidays" have > rung you out and hung you up to dry - we want you back! > > Have a safe and blessed Thanksgiving, > > Nancy >

Gobble, Gobble, My Little Ones! After you've picked that turkey carcass clean, sucked down the last of Aunt Freida's Cranberry Jello Mold, made yourself sick leaving no evidence of Sweet Potatoes with Marshmallow Topping, the obligatory Green Bean-Mushroom Soup-Fried Onion Casserole, Cornbread Dressing, Mama's Gravy, Sweet Butter, Hot Rolls, Creamed Corn, Peas with Bitty Onions, Pumpkin Pie, Mince Pie, Fudge, Pecan Log, Cheese Log, Assorted Nuts & Mints and are discovered by returning Holiday Shoppers, stuporous and glassy-eyed in the Bark-O-Longer, TV blaring College Football, only apparent signs of life being the Mashed 'Taters stuck to your face - remember your little family here loves you and after "The Holidays" have rung you out and hung you up to dry - we want you back! Have a safe and blessed Thanksgiving, Nancy

----- Original Message ----- From: barbara smith To: MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Census look-up please Hello, I need a 1860 and 1870 census look-up for the name Honia. There is a Joseph I need to find his family. Mound City, Holt Mo. Thanks, Barbara eor@saber.net

These two urls were just sent to me: Click here: Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/collections/LO.html Click here: Kentucky Secretary of State :: John Y. Brown III http://www.sos.state.ky.us/intranet/revwscr.asp Hope this helps someone, Lanita

Hello All, I can only find 2 people with the name Honia and Honian. One is E.C. Honia married a John Miller March 1850 in Monroe Co. Illinois. Also a Maria Honian that married Charles Green on Jan. 1870 in Vermilion Co. Illinois. I have one of those old pictures that is on a postcard but it was not mailed so no postmark. The picture was taken about 1910 to 1920 and it has 2 women standing behind a white chair with a little boy about 4 sitting in the chair. On the back of the picture it says Mrs. Honia and her daughter Mrs Page and grandson. Dose anyone have a female that had the last name of Honia before she married a Mr. Page? Or are these yours? Need any help! Thanks, Barbara eor@saber.net

Hi List, Does anyone have any Fergusons from Wayne Co. Mo. in their family.? C.J. Williams

Betty's Randolph Co. Obits <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randolph/obits.html">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~randolph/obits.html</A> Gava

Hello, I need a 1880 and 1870 census look-up for the name Honia. There is a Joseph I need to find his family. Mound City, Holt Mo. Thanks, Barbara eor@saber.net

Hello, I have a gggrandfather with no parents and on the 1850 Wane Co. Mo. census he is 8 his sister is 10 and it has his father is fron Ill. So I looked up all the ones with this name that would be old enought to have them and they would of had to get married abt. 1823 so these are the only ones I can find in the Ill. state wide marriage. If these are in your family line please let me know James Leech and Mary Danilson married 12/11/1823 James Leech and Mary Davidson " " Anthony Leech and Ann Leech married 1/10/1825 These were married in Illinois. Thanks for any help, Barbara eor@saber.net

How do you get to Betty Tucker's obits? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thompson" <twister@pokynet.com> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] obits > Anyone who has not taken the time to look through the old obits that Betty Tucker has placed on-line just might be missing an obit for a family member. > She has spent many hours going through the old Star Herald newspapers & I'm sure hasn't missed any. > I just spent the afternoon looking through them, from the year 1873 to 1949. > Thank you, Betty, > Carol Thompson >

Anyone who has not taken the time to look through the old obits that Betty Tucker has placed on-line just might be missing an obit for a family member. She has spent many hours going through the old Star Herald newspapers & I'm sure hasn't missed any. I just spent the afternoon looking through them, from the year 1873 to 1949. Thank you, Betty, Carol Thompson

Hello everyone, Is there anyone here from Dalton, Randolph Co., ARK? I may have relatives of my grandfather James Edmond BURNETT (or BURNET) living there and would like to make contact. Edmond is the son, born 1879, of Warren Newton BURNETT and Catherine (unknown surname) who appear on the 1880 census of Meramec Twshp., Phelps County, MO. Father and son later lived in Shannon County, MO. Best regards, Ron Burnett ron@cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au

I'm sure many of you have seen this before, but in case you haven't: 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit and a conniption, and that you don't "HAVE" them, -- you "PITCH" them. 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip greens,peas, beans, etc. make up "a mess." 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general direction of "yonder." 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long "directly" is - as in: "Going to town, be back directly." 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that "Gimme some sugar" is not a request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty little bowl on the middle of the table. 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when "by and by" is. They might not use the term, but they know the concept well. 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture of solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried chicken and a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!) 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between "right near" and "a right far piece." They also know that "just down the road" can be 1 mile or 20. 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference between a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash. 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the flashing turn signal is actually going to make a turn. 11.) A true Southerner knows that "fixin'" can be used as a noun, a verb, or an adverb. 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term "booger" can be a resident of the nose, a descriptive, as in "that ol' booger," or something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless. 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We don't do "queues", we do "lines," and when we're "in line," we talk to everybody! 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover they're related, even if only by marriage. 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as "y'all." 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them. 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast food; and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food. 18.) When you hear someone say, "Well, I caught myself lookin' ..,"you know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner! 19.) Only true Southerners say "sweet tea" and "sweet milk." Sweet tea indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea unsweetened. "Sweet milk" means you don't want buttermilk. 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, "Bless her heart" and go your own way.

Sorry, I have no idea. I've tried to find out but had no luck & since she's g-g'father's 1st. wife, didn't work very hard on it...I do have pictures of her. If you ever find a connection, I'd love to fill in the gaps for her & her family line. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Marx Family" <rmarx2@wi.rr.com> To: "Carol Thompson" <twister@pokynet.com> Cc: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Can anyone help with this? > Carol, do you have any knowledge of where this Joanah came from or if there are > any McMillens (spelled any way) in the picture? > Catherine > > Carol Thompson wrote: > > > I also have a INISS JOANAH D. ROARK, born 21 Sept. 1856, d. 27 Jan., 1891, > > Lawrence Co., Ark., md. 12 Nov., 1874, to GREEN EDWARD LAWSON RICHARDSON, > > (my great-grandfather), b. 9 July, 1846, Lawrence Co., Ark., d. 22 Feb., > > 1937, Imboden, Lawrence Co., Ark. Joanah Roark was his first wife; I'm > > > >

Carol, do you have any knowledge of where this Joanah came from or if there are any McMillens (spelled any way) in the picture? Catherine Carol Thompson wrote: > I also have a INISS JOANAH D. ROARK, born 21 Sept. 1856, d. 27 Jan., 1891, > Lawrence Co., Ark., md. 12 Nov., 1874, to GREEN EDWARD LAWSON RICHARDSON, > (my great-grandfather), b. 9 July, 1846, Lawrence Co., Ark., d. 22 Feb., > 1937, Imboden, Lawrence Co., Ark. Joanah Roark was his first wife; I'm >

I also have a INISS JOANAH D. ROARK, born 21 Sept. 1856, d. 27 Jan., 1891, Lawrence Co., Ark., md. 12 Nov., 1874, to GREEN EDWARD LAWSON RICHARDSON, (my great-grandfather), b. 9 July, 1846, Lawrence Co., Ark., d. 22 Feb., 1937, Imboden, Lawrence Co., Ark. Joanah Roark was his first wife; I'm descended from his 2nd. marriage to SARAH ANN BRADY. All three are buried in Bethel Cem., near Lawrence Co., Ark. Carol Thompson Pocahontas, Ark. twister@pokynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Marx Family" <rmarx2@wi.rr.com> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Can anyone help with this? > Barbara, I don't know if this will help but here is what I know about Roarks in this general area. In the 1870 Lawrence > County, AR census, there is a Joanna Roark, age 16, born MO, living with Addison McMillon and family. The McMillons are one > of my lines and the Roark name caught my eye because one of my McMillon line married a Roark and lived in Arkansas Co,AR. > This Roark girl came from MO and, according to the family now, came either from Dade or Dallas county in MO. > > Catherine > > barbara smith wrote: > > > I would like to know where they came from? This is all the information I have. > > > > I have a Mary Roark i,a, New York State 1811 3040p. 120 > > passenger list Vol.3 > > Mary and her daughter came from another countery can't seem to get the hang of how it says to do it to get the information. > > Daughter was Joannah Roark. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks, > > Barbara > > eor@saber.net > >

Nancy, I believe that the census indexes provided by Ancestry.com are based on the AIS census indexes. I don't believe that the Ancestry census indexes for Randolph County in 1870 include any of the Randolph County townships other than the four identified by Betty Tucker. There are references in the Ancestry index for Randolph County for 1870 to census records in six townships other than the four Betty identified. However, none of those six were Randolph County townships. They appears to be Saline County townships (Beaver, Dyer, Hurricane, Jefferson, Marble, and Owen) which were apparently mis-coded at some point as Randolph County townships instead of Saline County townships. Mike Landwehr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <lacywinston@earthlink.net> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Randolph Co., AR 1870 Census Mystery > Betty, > > Can you find any further information about the lost 1870 census records? > > The AIS Census Indexes list heads of household/variant surnames for all > the townships in Randolph County, but the corresponding census page > images only cover pp416-512. > > Now, somebody had to have the original records in order to compile the > AIS Census Indexes. So, apparently those townships were enumerated, but > something happened to the original census books after the information > was recorded. > > There's a bit of info about the AIS Census Indexes at the url below, but > nothing mentioned of destroyed/excluded districts: > > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/ais/faq.htm > > > Help us, Betty! PLEASE! > > N > >

Hi, Sorry it was her son that died in 1935. On Joannah I have she died 1878 or 79 in Illinois she married George L. Nichols it has her birth New York? as if not sure. Thanks, Barbara eor@saber.net