Hello, my lines with ties to this area: Beller Casteel Golden Holden Lea/Lee Schneider Problem(s): Schneider, Nancy (Lee) d. 1922, Shannon Co. bur. New Salem Cemetery, Montier--no tombstone. Wrote for death certificate, wasn't found. Would like some verification, obit? (Didn't find one in Mt. View paper). Any suggestions? CASTEEL, William: need verification of death, 1897 in MO. but recent information indicates he was buried in Nelson Cemetery, Randolph Co., AR as was his wife, Lyddia, d. 17 Feb, 1917. They were in Hutton Valley, Howell, 1880 census. Thank you, Velma _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi list, looking for a 1910 Shannon or Texax Co. Mo. census for following name: Simeon RILEY or Ida Riley ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Hello, Ozark Searchers. If you run across James Evans (my grandpa) and Mary Manila (his wife) in the 1930 Census, please let me know. They lived at Thayer. He died in 1936 and she died in 1945 and why they are not in 30 census is a puzzle to me. At any rate, Lanita has a neat web site that I am jealous of.

I am searching for the graves of Joseph Smith and his wife Elizabeth. They show up on the 1860 census for Fulton County, Ark. living next to their daughter, Mary Jane Smith Presley and her husband Milas Pinkney Presley. After that, I have not found them any place. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Janice

It's been a while, so let's have a ROLL CALL, and see if we can get some action going on the List.. Please post your surnames, any brick walls, and let us know what you are searching for in the area. Remember, this list is for Oregon County, MO and the surrounding counties both in MO and AR. If you need a lookup in one of the sources, please state what county and source as well. The ROLL CALL will be over on Wed., at midnight! Lanita researching: ARNOLD, BENNETT, COUCH, BIRCHETT, DAVIS, ELLIOTT, FERRELL, MARRIOTT, CLOAR, SCONCE, STOGSDILL, JUSTICE, TAYLOR, MCBREYER, DYER, DETHROW, DUBOISE, MADDOX, RIMMER, BELLAH, McWILLIAMS, PRINCE and a bunch of others. check out my website and be sure to sign the guestbook at: www.lanitasloft.com I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

Hi Lanita and other listers My lines are: Warren King Bailey Cates Farris Carpenter Beverly Ward Woodring Nall Fagan My brick walls are Prentice Eugene Beverly and his mother Belle Ward She later was married to Thornton Coleman and they are buried in Bardley Cemetery. My next brick wall is Christine Ava Eveline Farris. I can't find much on her but her husband Moses Pinkney Cates is well documented. Her mother Elizabeth Carpenter married first Farris and then Hill. I can't seem to get a lead on her either Then theres Nancy King. She was first married to Enoch Warren. I know they were from Wilson Co., Tn. but can find very little about them in Oregon Co. My information starts with their son Smith Alexander Warren. After Enoch died Nancy married Daniel Bailey who was the father of two of her childrens spouses. One was Mary Jane Warren who married Harve Bailey and then theres my direct line of Eliza Jane Bailey who married Smith Alexander Warren. The Baileys I found a marriage for Daniel in North Carolina to Mariah Combs and my Eliza Janes death certificate says her mother was Mariah Combs. Two years later Daniel was in Tennessee and married to Elizabeth and had Harve. Any ideas on Elizabeth. I realize most of my info came from other states but they all ended up in Oregon Co. Any leads would be appreciated. Judy

Thanks Judy! I have only found one marriage with the surnames of BYNUM and FERRELL... Couldn't find any others.. Lanita Sconce Miller Wichita, KS For information on my families, check out my website: www.lanitasloft.com Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it.

Does anybody have any pictures of CRASS AND KESTER. I am looking for any Pictures of SARAH ANN CRASS KESTER and her husband ISAAC KESTER. They are my ggrandparents. Can anybody tell me when ISAAC KESTER died. The date I have is wrong. In the 1910 census It has SARAH ANN CRASS KESTER a widow. I also have her buried Jeff cemetery Oregon Co. Mo. 1911 Thanks Joan Manhandyman@aol.com

Anybody got a BYNUM and FERRELL marriage anywhere? Lanita Sconce Miller Wichita, KS For information on my families, check out my website: www.lanitasloft.com Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it.

As Memorial Day approaches, I was reminded again that this is the time where family members wish they were nearby to place flowers on graves, but can't because of distance, health, or whatever. When you shop for those memorial flowers and wreaths for your own loved ones, join me in picking up a couple of $1 bunches of flowers to place on those lonely graves where no flowers are placed. Do it for the family members who may not be close enough or healthy enough to do it.. do it for those who have long since gone but used to care for the graves. Do it, just because you're a family historian, and care about these who have passed before us. Do it, because it just feels good! It is a special feeling know that these who would have been without, can now show that someone cared! Lanita Sconce Miller Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples.

Found these: LEWIS, Micaiah, Srv. Hathorn's Regt of NY Mil LEWIS, Micaiah, Srv. in Janson's Regt of NY Mil LEWIS, Cornelius, Srv in Hasbrouck's Regt of NY Mil I checked to see if any of them filed for pensions [where you would find a gold mine of family history if they did], and none filed. Hope this helps, Lanita Sconce Miller Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples.

Subject: SSDI possible closure legislation. Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:30:01 -0500 From: The Marx Family <rmarx2@wi.rr.com> To: Nancy <lacywinston@earthlink.net> References: 1 Nancy, this was on one of my other lists. I thought you might want to give our Oregon Co. history list a "heads up". Catherine Cyrille D Doutherd wrote: > I've been receiving updates on federal legislation, Federal bills S228 > and HR637 on privacy and the use of Social Security Numbers, on the > Northern California rootsweb mailing lists. This concerns everyone > interested in genealogy and the protection of our access to this > important historical tool. There are amendments to the bill which the > Utah Genealogical Society has recommended, which have, so far, fallen on > deaf ears. Here are the amendments: > > We ask that in S228 and HR637 the following amendments be made: > > 1. Under Sec. 3 (a)(1)(a) DEFINITIONS, add the following definition: > "SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER - The term 'social security number' refers to > the social security number of a living individual." > > 2. Under Sec. 4 (a)(1)(e)(2) LIST OF PAPER AND OTHER NONELECTRONIC > RECORDS, delete "(D) death certificates." > > I have not seen the chatter regarding this issue on most mailing lists > that I'm on and thought to "just inform" everyone. The authors of the > bill are: > > S228 > Senator Dianne Feinstein > 331 Hart Senate Office Bldg. > Washington, D.C. 20510 > (202) 224-3841/fax (202) 228-3954 > <feinstein.senate.gov/email.html> > > Senator Patrick J. Leahy > 433 Hart Senate Office Bldg. > Washington, D.C. 20510 > (202) 224-4242/<senator_leahy@leahy.senate.gov> > > Senator Judd Gregg > 393 Hart Senate Office Bldg. > Washington, D.C. 20510 > (202) 224-3324/<mailbox@gregg.senate.gov> > > HR637 > Representative John E. Sweeney > 416 Cannon Office Bldg. > Washington, D.C. 20515 > (202)225-5614/Fax (202) 225-6234 > > Thank you for reading this, > CDoutherd > A Concerned fellow genealogist. >

One curious custom of early America was the practice of "bundling". Couples, usually those planning to marry, were allowed to sleep together--clothes on, folks. According to The New Columbia Encyclopedia they were "sometimes separated by a board, or the girl's legs were tied together or the couple was in some other way constrained from completing the sexual act." While this method of courting may seem bizarre to us now, it's important to remember the reasons (alleged, at least) why it was so popular. A young man might walk several miles in freezing cold weather after a hard day's work to visit his sweetheart. In the interest of conserving precious firewood and lantern oil, the young couple was allowed to bundle, thereby pursuing their courtship in a comfortable and practical way. And: Though it was a practice rarely spoken of and usually denied, bundling was used by courting couples. Since most arose before dawn and went to bed not long after dusk and worked in between, something had to be done to give a caller an opportunity to call on his beloved. They could not stay up all night, since the fires would be put out as the rest of the family went to bed to preserve fuel and out of safety, so bundling allowed the courting couple to continue to talk without catching cold or worse. Bags, boards, bolsters and even pillows were used to separate the couple. Each was more of a mental barrier rather than an absolute physical barrier, although such extreme measures as sewing the bag closed were probably taken by some families. --- From what I've been able to dig out, the practice goes back heaven only knows how long, and appears to have largely died out early in the 1800's (not completely, but largely - some of the reading I've done would seem to indicate that it's still practiced in some areas or among some groups, even if it's largely unacknowledged). I don't know, but I would guess that changing social standards and styles would have been largely responsible for it fading away. By the mid 1800's, if not earlier, in this country there had been a huge shift towards being "ladies" and "gentlemen." In England, these terms had definite implications -- just because you were female, it didn't mean you were a lady. The term would have been used only to refer to very upper-crust, aristocratic woman, definitely of a particular social class. European visitors to this county were amazed that almost *all* the women seemed to be considered "ladies." (Except, of course, for those servant types, like the Irish, or the nigras, don't you know?) And as time went on, "ladies" were to be sheltered from darned near everything. Ladies, of course, didn't sweat (they glistened <g>). Bodily functions simply didn't exist. (If you've read "Gone With the Wind," you've got a decent idea of the social standards at the time, regardless of what you may think of some of the historical accuracy <g>.) Ladies barely ate. A belch was a catastrophe. (I've sometimes wondered what would have happened if a woman -- excuse me, lady -- farted <g>.) Pregnancy simply wasn't acknowledged, babies simply magically appeared. My guess is that this attitude shift was the death of bundling. Churches began to see the practice as immoral, probably leads to impure thoughts, too. And spending that much time in what was a rather intimate setting, even if fully dressed and sewn into bags, would probably lead to a lot more, um, knowledge, of the opposite sex than would have been considered appropriate. (Those nasty bodily functions again <g>.) Angie Rayfield http://www.inmyattic.com/roots/ Lanita Sconce Miller Wichita, KS For information on my families, check out my website: www.lanitasloft.com Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it.

Don't be too sure! Catherine lanita miller wrote: > I MEANT... the girl's mother sewed the bag, but it was just the young > couple who spent the night... > > Lanita >

I MEANT... the girl's mother sewed the bag, but it was just the young couple who spent the night... Lanita

Don't know how many of you have seen the movie, "The Patriot", but I had a question on the 1776 mailing list regarding the Bundling Bed. The young male character was sewed into a bag on a bed, but the girlfriend's mother, and young man and girlfriend spent the night together.. [if you haven't seen the movie, it is a MUST for family historians!!] The answer I got back was very interesting: Bundling was a custom of people sharing the same bed, especially courting couples. Since courtship was hard back in those days - a young man may have lived so far away that he could not go and come in one day - the visitor was usually allowed to stay overnight. Since space was scarce, everyone had to share beds. They used the bundling bags in these instances to insure the chastity of the young ladies. Also, in very cold weather the couple courted while wrapped up in quilts in the bed. Another practice was the bundling board. The father would put a board down the middle of the bed and the young man slept on one side and the young lady slept on the other side. I am sure many a father lost a lot of sleep. Does anyone know when this custom started and when it ended? Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

I don't find any Herods listed as being buried in Miner Cemetery in Dent Co. What Herod names are you looking for? There are Herods listed in other cemeteries. Jewell --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

Does anyone on the list have cemt. records for Miner Cemt. in Dent Co. Missouri? I'm looking for the HEROD family members buried there. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Good Evening My Little Ones, Just a thought about Mother's Day.... There is a truth about Mother. It cannot be bought with candy or flowers. Its value cannot be summed in a greeting card. No words or acts will ever change it. You cannot break her heart and make it go away. Time and distance will not lessen it. Silence will never stop it. No one can control it. Not even Mother. The truth about Mother is this. As long as she lives you are loved. N

I have the sad duty to report the loss of Judy McGinnis' mother last month. Judy, one of our regulars and who attended our gathering a couple of years ago as did her mother, just informed me. She is busy with details, but if you wish to express your sympathy, please send to her at: judymcg@aculink.net Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.