Thanks Doris and Judy for the additional input. I will eventually get the mystery behind me. Betty Betty, I saw Lanita's response that the Grisham/Grissom marriage didn't take place in Oregon County, so I checked Carter County for you. There is a marriage between Henry D. Gresham and Mary O.C. Leach on April 19, 1863; also A.G. Gresham to Minnie Clayton on April 23, 1899. Neither is an obvious match, but could be right if Minnie was a nickname or if she had been married before. Good luck. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Tucker" Hi List, If anyone has access to the Oregon Co marriage records I sure do need a look up. Minnie Copas to _______ Grisham or Grissom. Just need date and the name of groom. I have checked our Randolph County records and the marriage did not take place here. They lived at Elm Store near the Oregon Co line so I suspect this is where their license will be. Thanks for any help that can be offered. Betty Tucker --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

HI Lanita, Thanks. I would like the numbers for the packets for Moore, Haws/Hawes/Haus, Johnson/Johnston, Cyprett or variation, and Taylor. I think I have the RAGK URL. Not having seen a probate packet, would I be asking a lot for a volunteer to watch for names within a particular packet? For example, in the Taylor packet, would it be a big pain for someone to scan through looking for the names of my Moore relatives before copying the packet? Or should I just get the packet copied and then search it myself when I get it? Thanks again. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "lanita miller" <ozarkn@southwind.net> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Oregon County Probate packets Judy, The probate packets are accessible for those who go to the closet and dig for them. I can tell you the number of the probate packet that you will need to look for.... each packet is for that particular individual's estate. You will need to go to Random Acts of Kindness site, for a lookup. I know that there is one local person who has volunteered to head for the courthouse for those who are in need of it. Do you need that url? Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower. ______________________________

Betty, I saw Lanita's response that the Grisham/Grissom marriage didn't take place in Oregon County, so I checked Carter County for you. There is a marriage between Henry D. Gresham and Mary O.C. Leach on April 19, 1863; also A.G. Gresham to Minnie Clayton on April 23, 1899. Neither is an obvious match, but could be right if Minnie was a nickname or if she had been married before. Good luck. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Tucker" Hi List, If anyone has access to the Oregon Co marriage records I sure do need a look up. Minnie Copas to _______ Grisham or Grissom. Just need date and the name of groom. I have checked our Randolph County records and the marriage did not take place here. They lived at Elm Store near the Oregon Co line so I suspect this is where their license will be. Thanks for any help that can be offered. Betty Tucker

If you will direct your inquiry to the Oregon County Genealogical Society they will be happy to search the marriage books and the probate index and packets. The charge is minimal. I can't remember exactly. To write to OCGS, send to Oregon County Courthouse, Alton, MO 65606. They can also be reached by e-mailing a message to altonpubliclibrary@hotmail.com If that doesn't work, e-mail me. I have sometimes volunteered to do look ups for individuals, and don't mind when I can. However, I am an active member of OCGS and believe I shouldn't take away from their income. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Tucker" <bettytucker72455@yahoo.com> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Look Up Needed > Hi List, > If anyone has access to the Oregon Co marriage records I sure do need a look up. Minnie Copas to _______ Grisham or Grissom. Just need date and the name of groom. > > I have checked our Randolph County records and the marriage did not take place here. They lived at Elm Store near the Oregon Co line so I suspect this is where their license will be. > > Thanks for any help that can be offered. > > Betty Tucker > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~randolph/randolphcountyarkansaspagesofinterest.html > > > > > - ------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > ______________________________

Judy, The probate packets are accessible for those who go to the closet and dig for them. I can tell you the number of the probate packet that you will need to look for.... each packet is for that particular individual's estate. You will need to go to Random Acts of Kindness site, for a lookup. I know that there is one local person who has volunteered to head for the courthouse for those who are in need of it. Do you need that url? Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

Betty, In OREGON CO. Marrigae books for the years 1845-1890, there is only one GRISHAM Groom: Grisham, Samuel F. to Bradshaw, Mary S. on the 6th of Jul 1879, listed in book "2", page 82. No COPAS Brides for those years at all.. if they married in Oregon Co., had to be after 1890. Sorry, I don't have the listing after those years. Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

Thank You Lanita for the prompt response. You can only search the records which you have available and I appreciate your effort so very much. I could not reacllbfor sure what years you had, but thought it was worth a try. I do not know the year of marriage but it would have been after 1949. Betty Tucker lanita miller <ozarkn@southwind.net> wrote: Betty, In OREGON CO. Marrigae books for the years 1845-1890, there is only one GRISHAM Groom: Grisham, Samuel F. to Bradshaw, Mary S. on the 6th of Jul 1879, listed in book "2", page 82. No COPAS Brides for those years at all.. if they married in Oregon Co., had to be after 1890. Sorry, I don't have the listing after those years. Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower. ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Hi List, If anyone has access to the Oregon Co marriage records I sure do need a look up. Minnie Copas to _______ Grisham or Grissom. Just need date and the name of groom. I have checked our Randolph County records and the marriage did not take place here. They lived at Elm Store near the Oregon Co line so I suspect this is where their license will be. Thanks for any help that can be offered. Betty Tucker http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~randolph/randolphcountyarkansaspagesofinterest.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

I'm back at square one on my John & Joe Moore. I had just re-located some very promising information I had received from Ann Jobe Brown regarding John F. Moore who died during the Civil War. Several things seemed to match and I was elated, but it was not to be. I found out that his son Joe could not be my g-grandfather who positively did die in Muskogee,Oklahoma, not Clay County, Arkansas. SO, now that I'm starting over, I also think I remember something about that the Oregon County probate packets not being accessible for awhile after Lanita had posted the lists of surnames. What do I need to do to get hold of probate packets? I have never seen one, so please pardon my ignorance! Do you have to read word for word through them to find out if specific people are mentioned, or is there an "index" or list on the packets? I may be able to go to Alton in the fall, but I'd love to get them sooner. I certainly would be happy to pay for copies, etc., if someone has access to them or already has copied the packets. 1. MOORE, John or parents or siblings - family says he was killed by raiders / bushwhackers / jayhawkers during the Civil War. (Not the John M. Moore with a son named Josephus on the 1860 Oak Grove Twp, Oregon County, MO census, but could be the John M. Moore in Moore Twp. Not the John F. Moore who was married to Sarah McCauley in Randolph County, Arkansas) 2. HAWS/HAWES/HAUS - no first names proven, except maybe Mary Lucinda, wife of Joe/Josephus Moore, mother of Myra May, Mora Mona and Ora Lucinda Moore, died 1896 Many Springs or Jobe, Missouri. 3. JOHNSON or JOHNSTON - with a daughter who married John Moore in #1. 4. MURRAY - if it mentions John Moore, Joe/Josephus Moore, Mary Lucinda Haws or Myra, Mora or Ora Moore. This would probably be Mary Murray Cypret or her parents. 5. CYPRET/CYPRETT - see #4. 5. TAYLOR, F.C. and wife Nancy, or any with relatives - see #4. Judy McGinnis

Good Morning, I've been "out of the loop" so to speak for the past few weeks. [Remodeling--never do it with someone you love.] For the time being, things seem to have returned to as close to normal as they ever get around here. And, in that light..... If you are having problems [or extraordinary delays] in receiving list mail, subscribing with new email addresses, etc., please let me know and I'll put in a fix. If you have asked me for a lookup or research help, with no reply, please ask again. If you are having any problems with the website, please let me know. Last in this message, but first in my heart---THANK YOU LANITA!!! Nancy

Thank you, Lanita! Every family history adds to the information someone is searching for. It's only through dedicated people like you that make our genealogy libraries as complete as they are. And believe me, I've seen the response of people when they find material in the library that either contributes to their research, or allows them to get started. Keep up the wonderful work you love! Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: "lanita miller" <ozarkn@southwind.net> To: <MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SCONCE BOOK for Randolph Co., AR > Betty Tucker, Carol Thompson, or any other Randolph Co. local, > > I have printed a SCONCE book that I would like to donate to the library > at Pokey. WHO would I contact? > > I am also working on another SCONCE book with additional info for > Alton's library [Doris Johnson, you can tell Janice that!] as well as a > JUSTICE book. Will get those mailed to Alton as soon as I have received > some latest info from a long lost cousin. > > Lanita > > > I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower. >

Good Morning, If you've asked me for a lookup or research help recently and have received no reply, please ask again. Nancy

Betty Tucker, Carol Thompson, or any other Randolph Co. local, I have printed a SCONCE book that I would like to donate to the library at Pokey. WHO would I contact? I am also working on another SCONCE book with additional info for Alton's library [Doris Johnson, you can tell Janice that!] as well as a JUSTICE book. Will get those mailed to Alton as soon as I have received some latest info from a long lost cousin. Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

The only one I see is in Wright county. Mike > Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Help need > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:57:32 -0500 > From: tricia demoss <trimoss@juno.com> > To: MO-OREGON-HISTORY-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, does anyone out there know where a CRAIN cemt. is located? I think > its prob. in Shannon Co. Mo., but don't know for sure. I'm looking for > the Herod family that is supposed to be buried there. Thank you, Tricia > DeMoss

Hi, does anyone out there know where a CRAIN cemt. is located? I think its prob. in Shannon Co. Mo., but don't know for sure. I'm looking for the Herod family that is supposed to be buried there. Thank you, Tricia DeMoss ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I don't know about the Crain cemetery Tricia asked about, but it did bring up another question for me. Someone told me that Littleberry Burns (born KY, age 60 on 1860 Shannon County census) was born a Crain/Crane but took his stepfather's name. I have seen the surnames Burns and Crain close to each other several times. Does anyone know if he might have traveled with older siblings or other relative who kept the Crain name? Is this cemetery named for a relative of Littleberry Burns? Thanks. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: tricia demoss <trimoss@juno.com> Hey all you wonderful people, maybe someone out there can come thru for me again...I'm looking for the whereabouts of a Crain cemt. prob. located in Shannon Co. Mo.?????? Looking for Herrod/Herod family that is supposed to be buried there. Does anyone know this cemt. location? Thank you, Tricia DeMoss ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ______________________________

I found the term "Entered Lands" on a FTM Census CD. Can anyone tell me what it means? It was on an entry for John Moore, Lawrence County, AR, Entered Lands, Page 027, Census/Enumeration Year 1832, Census type code: Tax List. The next entry was also John Moore in Lawrence County, Arkansas, Union Twp, Page 038, Census/Enumeration Year 1832, Census type code: Tax List. Judy

I'll try this again --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: MAILER-DAEMON@m07.lax.untd.com To: trimoss@juno.com Date: 1 Jul 2003 02:52:43 -0000 Subject: Mail Not Delivered Message-ID: <AAA9SB755ANZ2Q3A@mx05.lax.untd.com> Unfortunately, your mail was not delivered to the following address: <Mo_Oregon_History_L@rootsweb.com>: 207.40.200.34 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <Mo_Oregon_History_L@rootsweb.com>... User unknown Giving up on 207.40.200.34. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <trimoss@juno.com> Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"83kADrdgsdjoASYKN3MkhPgvoakGp1yuJEjutbXnhPrM+yTUjUTiHw==">; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:51:46 PDT Received: (from trimoss@juno.com) by m07.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id H3YKE3QY; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:51:46 PDT To: Mo_Oregon_History_L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 21:50:42 -0500 Subject: help need again Message-ID: <20030630.215042.596.2.trimoss@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4 From: tricia demoss <trimoss@juno.com> Hey all you wonderful people, maybe someone out there can come thru for me again...I'm looking for the whereabouts of a Crain cemt. prob. located in Shannon Co. Mo.?????? Looking for Herrod/Herod family that is supposed to be buried there. Does anyone know this cemt. location? Thank you, Tricia DeMoss ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Gena, No GATES listed in Oregon Co., MO in 1870. Yes, the census is hard to read, but not as bad as the 1880! Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

Hello everyone, Lanita found the marriage record for my great grandparents in Oregon Co, 1870 After I had been told it did not exist. Now I have no idea why they married in Oregon Co MO. My Gates line had lived in Lawrence Co Mo prior and possibly during the civil war. However by 1870 I can find none of them in any census I check. The Oregon Co 1870 census is very hard to read, I finally gave up. Is the whols census so difficult to read...should I continue to struggle with it? Would it be any better if I ordered the actual film into the local LDS center and viewed it there? If I remember correctly there is virtually no index for this census? Looking for: Michael/Mikel Gates, born abt 1811, KY. Married Catherine Ann Cline born VA. Parents of Frank Gates Simpson Franklin Gates, also known as Frank or just S.F. , born IN 1836, married to Sarah Jane Noss, born Lawrence Co MO. Parents of the Michael below. Michael C. Gates, born 1859 Lawrence Co MO, married Elizabeth Piercy Privett in Oregon Co Mo 1870. By the early 1870's they are settling into Randolph Co AR. I wondered if they might have temporarily settled in Oregon Co MO, enroute to Randolph Co. If someone has knowledge of them, I would love to hear from you. My nose is pressed up against that rough ol brick wall and I am beginning to bleed a bit ;-). Gena Gates Lally