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Ladies and Gentlemen!!!! Because of the overwhelming generosity of our own Nancy LEWIS MILLSAP, we now have additional resources. For right now, let me tell that we have copies of the microfilm of the Oregon Co. Divorces for the years 1851-1899. [We have alot more that she has been doing and providing to yours truly] but for right now, if you want the info on the date and parties of the following, please let me know: Again, this is for Oregon Co., and for the years 1851-1899 [PAY ATTENTION, all requests for reminders, and/or restatements of what years AND requests for other years and other counties will be IGNORED!!!] Pay attention. We don't have time to repeat, repeat, repeat... If you can't remember, go to the Oregon County History ARCHIVES for the mailing list, and see for yourself. Here are the surnames for A-BLACK ADEN ALLEXNDER ALLEN ALLISON ARMALL ARNOLD ATCHLEY AVON B ABB BACOT BAERTCHI BAGWELL BAILEY BATMAN BEACH BEDIGREW BENNETT BLACK Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

I was going to say, the earliest I have found family members in the SSDI were those who died in 1962. Peggy Brooks Cannady [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Landwehr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI I believe that the SS Act passed in 1935, but taxes were withheld and credits began accruing on January 1, 1937. Ancestry.com indicates that 98% of the persons listed in the SSDI died after 1962, but that the remainder died between 1937 and 1962. Mike Landwehr ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/

Some were employed by the government under both plans. Those who paid into Social Security before the new retirement plan was enacted will receive partial Social Security benefits. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI > Another group that won't show up on SS is government employees that worked > under the Civil Service umbrella; they have their own retirement plan. My > husband recently retired and will never be listed under Social Security. > Anyone who now works for government does pay into Social Security...except > elected officials (please correct me if I'm wrong about this). > Pat Miller > > Max Evans wrote: > >> There were groups who had their own plans before SS was passed and who >> are not listed. Now most people are listed because they have rolled many >> of those plans together like RR retirment board, certain professional >> groups etc. None of my ancestors that died in the late 1930s are listed. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kara S" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI >> >> >>> Lanita, >>> >>> Anyone who's dead will be listed on SSDI. >>> >>> Kara >>> >>> >>> Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! >>> >>> >>> ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== >>> http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== >> http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ >> >> >> > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.19/93 - Release Date: 9/8/2005 > >

Good Afternoon, Ancestry has an extension explanation of the SSDI, including search tips and FAQ's: SSDI Database Description: http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693 SSDI FAQ's: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/faq.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0 N

Another group that won't show up on SS is government employees that worked under the Civil Service umbrella; they have their own retirement plan. My husband recently retired and will never be listed under Social Security. Anyone who now works for government does pay into Social Security...except elected officials (please correct me if I'm wrong about this). Pat Miller Max Evans wrote: > There were groups who had their own plans before SS was passed and who > are not listed. Now most people are listed because they have rolled > many of those plans together like RR retirment board, certain > professional groups etc. None of my ancestors that died in the late > 1930s are listed. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kara S" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI > > >> Lanita, >> >> Anyone who's dead will be listed on SSDI. >> >> Kara >> >> >> Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! >> >> >> ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== >> http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ >> >> > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > >

Group, I received this post from Jeffery Scism the USGENWEB Cordinator fo the NE NC region. Pat Miller Hi Pat, please pass along if you wish. The SSDI is an index of those whose deaths were reported to Social Security and those whose death was followed by a death benefit claim. In 1995 the Social Security registration process became mandatory for children who enter public school, most jurisdictions start the process at birth. The Tax laws indicate that children over one must have a ssan to be included as dependants on a federal tax form. The early results on SSDI (pre 1963) are sporatic and were added after the fact. Most were Railroad Retirements, and come from when the Railroad retirement program was merged with social security. Farmers and self employed were not required to have a SSAN. ~~ Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG Local Coordinator Representative, NE/NC Region, USGenWeb Project http://usgenweb.org/

There were groups who had their own plans before SS was passed and who are not listed. Now most people are listed because they have rolled many of those plans together like RR retirment board, certain professional groups etc. None of my ancestors that died in the late 1930s are listed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kara S" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI > Lanita, > > Anyone who's dead will be listed on SSDI. > > Kara > > > Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > >

Gene Phillips just sent ne this info: [thanks, Gene!] "I think they would have had to die after 1939. Here's an interesting story about Ida May Fuller, the first person to draw social security benefits. From what I understand, you had to die while drawing benefits or leave benefits to a survivor. Since she was the first person to draw a social security check in Jan 1940, noone would have died while drawing social security before that date. http://www.ssa.gov/history/imf.html Gene Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

Lanita, Nobody was forced to register for Social Security until many years after the 1930s. I have very few of my ancestors listed in the SS register unless they were born in the 1940s or 1950s. In fact it has only been the last 20 years or so that SS numbers were necessary for children and I have friends who still don't have SS numbers. Pat Miller Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > Okay gang.. help me out here... > > What was the 1st year that people had to register for SS? Would > someone living in 1930 have to be listed on the SSDI if he had passed > by now? I've got a guy b. 1862, still living in 1930.. wouldn't he be > listed on the SSDI? > > Lanita > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > >

Lanita, Nobody was forced to register for Social Security until many years after the 1930s. I have very few of my ancestors listed in the SS register unless they were born in the 1940s or 1950s. Pat Miller Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > Okay gang.. help me out here... > > What was the 1st year that people had to register for SS? Would > someone living in 1930 have to be listed on the SSDI if he had passed > by now? I've got a guy b. 1862, still living in 1930.. wouldn't he be > listed on the SSDI? > > Lanita > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > >

Thanks, Mike. That makes sense. Love, Lanita I trace my family history so I will know who to blame.

I believe that the SS Act passed in 1935, but taxes were withheld and credits began accruing on January 1, 1937. Ancestry.com indicates that 98% of the persons listed in the SSDI died after 1962, but that the remainder died between 1937 and 1962. Mike Landwehr

I'm correcting myself. The Social Security Act passed into law on August 14, 1935. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Judy Sanders" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Social Security Act didn't pass > until 1937 and from what I've read, most people listed on SSDI on internet > died after 1951, can't remember why from 1937 to 1951 people aren't listed. > > Judy K. Sanders > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:12 AM > Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] SSDI > > > > Okay gang.. help me out here... > > > > What was the 1st year that people had to register for SS? Would someone > > living in 1930 have to be listed on the SSDI if he had passed by now? > > I've got a guy b. 1862, still living in 1930.. wouldn't he be listed on > > the SSDI? > > > > Lanita > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 > > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 > >