Kara, speaking of new-found cousins on this site, I haven't forgotten that I am going to get some Wooldridge information to you! Unfortunately, work got in the way! Catherine Kara S wrote: > >Again I appreciate all the work everyone does and the sharing of all the documents and information and I must say I have found new cousins on this site, what a joy that is to me. > >I'd like to say sometimes...we won't find the documentation we are after as there have been fires and sometimes people forgot to either write it down or tell it to families. Those are just a few. That is another reason we rely on family. To tell us, so and so is buried here w/out a marker and isn't in a cemetery book. It may not be documented but like I said, not everything will be. > >Kara > > > > > > > > >

Regarding mistakes in genealogy... I've found a lot of good, solid information from individuals when they find my mistakes !!!! so sometimes they pay off. Lyn

I have a book out about growing up in Oregon County in the 30's, 40's and 50's. It's not much as genealogy in general goes but has many dates about the towns, how they were named, etc. If any one is interested, should probably go off the list to [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanita Sconce Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] researchers >I think, as we go along, we come across knowledgeable researchers who we >trust to know that they have done indepth research on a particular family. >I for one, have depended a great deal on Peggy Cannady's info because I >consider her the authority on the BELLAH family. I know that she will >probably protest that 'label', but she has the overwhelming amount of >documentation that she has sent me. I try to do the same, but when it >comes to BELLAH, I have sited her and her shared documentation numerous >times! She has set me straight on a couple of misleadings that I >would/might have taken.. that was a time saver for me, and I will always be >grateful! > > There are others who are the experts... Ann JOBE BROWN for her JOB[E] > line, our own Nancy MILSAP for her MILSAP line [I know all of the above > have other lines they have researched, but when particular surnames come > to mind, that's who I think of] .....I would consider myself the expert on > the area DETHROW, SCONCE, and my direct lines for JUSTICE, TAYLOR, > BENNETT, and a number of other area families when it comes to my direct > line... > > I have NO PROBLEM sharing with the above mentioned ladies.... they have > gone and still go above and beyond the normal... but, the above ladies, > through the years, have become friends of mine... we have shared, so > much... I just don't share with 1st time contacts all I have until I > establish a relationship. > > I think also, the general label of "family associations" is misleading as > well... that was my fault! I had come across a couple of real 'stinkers', > and started thinking of them all as the same. Peggy had previously shared > her positive finds that she had found with her experience.. that put a new > perspective on things... so, when it comes to "Family Associations", be > your own judge. Be aware, though, that not all are the same. > > We all have been burned by those who harvest our information only to > resell it ..... we also have been burned by sharing alot, and then no > mention of our work or generosity when we find it online by the person we > have shared it with... that's just rude and unethical! > > But, in our learning, we have also come across people who make the others > look pitiful! Generous people who are only in it for the love of the > research. We have a passion, that only others of the same breed, can > understand. We will continue to share, but as the Bible says, being aware > of the 'lions in sheeps' clothing', are out in cyberspace making it > needful for us to be "innocent as doves but wise as serpents"!! > > I would like to thank all of those who have helped me! Without the Peggys, > the Anns, the Nancys, the rest of us would be lost and stuck in our maize > of confusion. For their sharing and generosity, I am very grateful! > Thanks, gals!! > > Lanita > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ >

Catherine, No worries. I'm glad to except when you have the time. Thanks Cuz, Kara Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

hello all again.....since I personally received so much help ..I would like to extend any assistance I can for someone else...i have many really good connection's in the Sapulpa, Creek County Okla and McIntosh County Okla. areas...feel free to ask and I will do what I can to helpout... Todd

Hello all....it has been quite interesting to read everyones views on the subject of research and info sharing...a couple of years ago I started my own search on the family tree and quickly ran across 2 distant cousins...both have been at their own searches for many years and have been the most helpful and patient people I have run across in many years..the both offered help ...shared info..pointed me in better directions...and even let me use them as sounding boards when I questioned things..... So with that said.....Thank so much Lanita....I know I would never have gotten this far without your help...I couldn't have asked for a better addition to my family and one of my friends thanks again... your cousin Todd

Peggy and all, I just would like to say, "Thank You" to all who do their family genealogy, mistakes and all. I think, people have a tendency to forget we are human and make mistakes. Those can be fixed sooner or later. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into doing the research as I have and do know the time it takes. I understand the annoyance of those who take things and resell them or put them up on a site and didn't do the research and connect them to your line anyway and it has nothing to do w/ your line. I know some of my "Vinson line", is on Ancestry.com, that way. I didn't put it there someone else decided that it was a good line and just linked it. If someone where to question me, I'd tell them its wrong. Other then that there isn't much I can do. But I do understand the frustration w/ it. I agree w/ Peggy its always a work in progress! ..that's why I say use pencil!...he he Again I appreciate all the work everyone does and the sharing of all the documents and information and I must say I have found new cousins on this site, what a joy that is to me. I'd like to say sometimes...we won't find the documentation we are after as there have been fires and sometimes people forgot to either write it down or tell it to families. Those are just a few. That is another reason we rely on family. To tell us, so and so is buried here w/out a marker and isn't in a cemetery book. It may not be documented but like I said, not everything will be. Kara Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

Thanks Kathleen and Peggy! I was looking for that information. I didn't have a thing on Issac. Kara Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

Well, OK, now that we're on a roll, here goes: I sit here in my own little corner of the world researching away, and I could do that for hours on end in perfect solitude, and it doesn't even have to be my own family lines. Once I get started, I can't stop until I'm satisfied. As Lanita says, we have a passion. But it is people like Lanita, Nancy, Jackie Wood, Kathleen Burnett, Betty Tucker, and many others, who STEP OUT and host these websites and mailing lists, which besides allowing us to share, also allows us to validate our research. And, as you all know, theirs are some of the very best sites around! Now, that is REAL PASSION. Frankly, I don't have the smarts to do it, but I am surely grateful for those who do! You keep me going. Ps - Lanita - you're right - I do deny being the authority on the BELLAH family. I've only been researching for five years, but it just so happens that I still live in the area where at least 6 generations of my BELLAH line lived, as well as many of the BELLAH ancestors, or at least came through for a while on their way west, so I have access to a lot of documentation. But if it weren't for the generosity and guidance of older BELLAH researchers, I wouldn't have even known what or where to look. A sweet little lady in Texas named Ruth Ann Gardner (descendant of Henry Gregg HUDSON and Elizabeth BELLAH, who passed away two years ago tomorrow) got me started in the right direction. Shortly after meeting Ruth Ann, I met Tom Rodgers (many of you have met Tom), who provided more direction. Ruth Ann told me WHAT to look for, Tom told me WHERE. And, very recently, I "met" the cousin who got Ruth Ann started many years ago, whom I consider to be the REAL expert on the BELLAH/HUDSON lines. He was under my nose all the time, but I had to guess at his identity, because he doesn't go by his first name, and just quietly watches over us infants. I finally put two and two together and wrote to him privately asking if he was who I thought he was (I'm star-struck??), and my, what rewards. He does agree on many of my assumptions on my and your BELLAH lines, but alas, no documentation as of yet, so still assumptions. I don't believe I was born with this passion, since I just started five years ago - but surely we all have these personal heroes who helped us develop it? Peggy Brooks Cannady [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lanita Sconce Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] researchers I think, as we go along, we come across knowledgeable researchers who we trust to know that they have done indepth research on a particular family. I for one, have depended a great deal on Peggy Cannady's info because I consider her the authority on the BELLAH family. I know that she will probably protest that 'label', but she has the overwhelming amount of documentation that she has sent me. I try to do the same, but when it comes to BELLAH, I have sited her and her shared documentation numerous times! She has set me straight on a couple of misleadings that I would/might have taken.. that was a time saver for me, and I will always be grateful! There are others who are the experts... Ann JOBE BROWN for her JOB[E] line, our own Nancy MILSAP for her MILSAP line [I know all of the above have other lines they have researched, but when particular surnames come to mind, that's who I think of] .....I would consider myself the expert on the area DETHROW, SCONCE, and my direct lines for JUSTICE, TAYLOR, BENNETT, and a number of other area families when it comes to my direct line... I have NO PROBLEM sharing with the above mentioned ladies.... they have gone and still go above and beyond the normal... but, the above ladies, through the years, have become friends of mine... we have shared, so much... I just don't share with 1st time contacts all I have until I establish a relationship. I think also, the general label of "family associations" is misleading as well... that was my fault! I had come across a couple of real 'stinkers', and started thinking of them all as the same. Peggy had previously shared her positive finds that she had found with her experience.. that put a new perspective on things... so, when it comes to "Family Associations", be your own judge. Be aware, though, that not all are the same. We all have been burned by those who harvest our information only to resell it ..... we also have been burned by sharing alot, and then no mention of our work or generosity when we find it online by the person we have shared it with... that's just rude and unethical! But, in our learning, we have also come across people who make the others look pitiful! Generous people who are only in it for the love of the research. We have a passion, that only others of the same breed, can understand. We will continue to share, but as the Bible says, being aware of the 'lions in sheeps' clothing', are out in cyberspace making it needful for us to be "innocent as doves but wise as serpents"!! I would like to thank all of those who have helped me! Without the Peggys, the Anns, the Nancys, the rest of us would be lost and stuck in our maize of confusion. For their sharing and generosity, I am very grateful! Thanks, gals!! Lanita ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/

I think, as we go along, we come across knowledgeable researchers who we trust to know that they have done indepth research on a particular family. I for one, have depended a great deal on Peggy Cannady's info because I consider her the authority on the BELLAH family. I know that she will probably protest that 'label', but she has the overwhelming amount of documentation that she has sent me. I try to do the same, but when it comes to BELLAH, I have sited her and her shared documentation numerous times! She has set me straight on a couple of misleadings that I would/might have taken.. that was a time saver for me, and I will always be grateful! There are others who are the experts... Ann JOBE BROWN for her JOB[E] line, our own Nancy MILSAP for her MILSAP line [I know all of the above have other lines they have researched, but when particular surnames come to mind, that's who I think of] .....I would consider myself the expert on the area DETHROW, SCONCE, and my direct lines for JUSTICE, TAYLOR, BENNETT, and a number of other area families when it comes to my direct line... I have NO PROBLEM sharing with the above mentioned ladies.... they have gone and still go above and beyond the normal... but, the above ladies, through the years, have become friends of mine... we have shared, so much... I just don't share with 1st time contacts all I have until I establish a relationship. I think also, the general label of "family associations" is misleading as well... that was my fault! I had come across a couple of real 'stinkers', and started thinking of them all as the same. Peggy had previously shared her positive finds that she had found with her experience.. that put a new perspective on things... so, when it comes to "Family Associations", be your own judge. Be aware, though, that not all are the same. We all have been burned by those who harvest our information only to resell it ..... we also have been burned by sharing alot, and then no mention of our work or generosity when we find it online by the person we have shared it with... that's just rude and unethical! But, in our learning, we have also come across people who make the others look pitiful! Generous people who are only in it for the love of the research. We have a passion, that only others of the same breed, can understand. We will continue to share, but as the Bible says, being aware of the 'lions in sheeps' clothing', are out in cyberspace making it needful for us to be "innocent as doves but wise as serpents"!! I would like to thank all of those who have helped me! Without the Peggys, the Anns, the Nancys, the rest of us would be lost and stuck in our maize of confusion. For their sharing and generosity, I am very grateful! Thanks, gals!! Lanita

The Jonesboro Sun, 26 OCT 2005: JONESBORO -- Russell Cleo Wooldridge, 89, of Jonesboro died Monday, Oct. 24, at Manila Nursing Home. Born at Walnut Ridge, he lived in Northeast Arkansas all of his life. He was a World War II U.S. Army veteran, retired from Crane Company and a member of Cottage Home Baptist Church. Survivors include his wife, Hettie Barringer Wooldridge of Manila; and two sisters, Gladys Wooldridge and Alta Tate, both of Bono. He was preceded in death by his parents, Rufus and Cena Hogan Wooldridge; and three brothers, Ike Wooldridge, Joe Wooldridge, and Paul Ray Wooldridge. Graveside services will be at 10 a.m. Thursday at Pine Log Cemetery with Wyndell King officiating. Roller-Farmers Union Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Pallbearers will be E.J. Buhrmester, David Shelton, Roger Vines, Jerry Coleman, Cody Thornton and Levi Thornton. 1900 Census, Randolph County, Arkansas, Warm Springs Twp, p 166B, 14 June, 1900: 51 123 123 Wooldridge, Isaac Head M W Mar 1865 35 M17 ARTNIN(?) Farmer 52 123 123 Wooldridge, Nancy Wife F W Aug 1867 32 M17 SCSCSC 9 children, 7 living 53 123 123 Wooldridge, Ella Dau F W Jul 1886 13 S ARARSC 54 123 123 Wooldridge, Onie Dau F W Feb 1888 12 S ARARSC 55 123 123 Wooldridge, Willie Son M W May 1890 10 S ARARSC 56 123 123 Wooldridge, Rufus Son M W Aug 1894 5 S ARARSC 57 123 123 Wooldridge, Jane Dau F W Nov 1896 3 S ARARSC 58 123 123 Wooldridge, Ollie Dau F W Jan 1898 2 S ARARSC 59 123 123 Wooldridge, Lessie Dau F W Mar 1900 3/12 S ARARSC 60 123 123 Allen, Ollie Boarder F W May 1882 18 S ARARSC Peggy Brooks Cannady [email protected]

I think we have all become seasoned as we have grown in our hobby. There is so much WRONG (yes, I'm yelling) out there that I shared with others when I was just beginning and didn't know any better than to give everybody everything and accept everything everyone gave me. Once they put it out on the paid sites and it gets put on those CD's there is no taking it back, and I cringe every time I see it. So, no, I don't give as much as I used to. If someone has specific questions of me on my lines I will gladly answer those specific questions. I always need a sanity check and love to debate. But, we must also realize that as we made mistakes when we were newbies, there always newbies coming along that have to make the same mistakes we did. If they are serious researchers, hopefully, we can teach them our mistakes. If they are not serious researchers, they will go away anyway. We once had a website that consisted of serious researchers, all connecting to one line, and consisting of folks all over the country. We all agreed from the get-go that we would gather all the documents, in each of our respective areas of the country, for that surname and share them with each other via the website - cemetery pictures, documents from the courthouses, newspaper articles, obituaries, etc. This worked out very well, and we were able to prove and disprove a lot of information that had previously been "common knowledge." Very exciting! However, we eventually opened the site up to EVERYONE who voiced an interest, and it basically turned into a chat room - not a genealogy site at all. All of the serious researchers have left the site, but I'm still plodding along posting those documents, hoping to generate some serious dialogue. This is something I DO believe in: those documents are public documents and are available to anyone. You could get them if you could reach them, just as easily as I can. If I have access to those actual documents that you don't, all you have to do is ask. Once I scan those documents and send them to you, they are a gift from me to you - as public documents, they never belonged to me. That first hand document is your source, not me - I was just the channel to get it into your hands. So many people have shared this opportunity with me, and I feel it necessary to reciprocate whenever I can. Many people have asked me when I am going to publish a book. That will probably never happen, as I consider genealogy a work in progress - never to be completed, AND, I wouldn't want to perpetuate any errors (and even as thorough as we THINK we are, we all make them) - I already have enough out there that I can't retrieve! And, speaking of errors, in the early census, relationship was not one of the fields, so we can only surmise what the relationship was. So, although it is the best we can do, I don't necessarily consider those early census' as PROOF of a relationship unless it can be backed up with other documentation. That census DOES give us a point to go look for that other documentation. And, on the subject of family Associations: most of the "dues" to these sites are minimal - $20 or so per year. You are not 'buying' the information that family keeps secret. Those dues are to pay for maintenance on a centrally located database that is maintained for that family, and publishing and mailing monthly or quarterly newsletters for that family. If you have ever purchased Genealogical Society newsletters, they are much the same. I certainly glean MORE than my $20 worth from those newsletters! Oops! Seems like a few of us have real opinions on these topics! Sorry this is so long... Peggy Brooks Cannady [email protected]

Update on the census below: Nancy Wooldridge, wife of Isaac was Nancy Broom daughter of Burrell and Mary Ann Broom who are buried in the Roach Cemetery, Hamil, Randolph Co., AR. Ollie Allen is the daughter of Francis Broom, sister to Nancy. Kathleen Burnett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cannady" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Obit - Russell Cleo WOOLDRIDGE > The Jonesboro Sun, 26 OCT 2005: > JONESBORO -- Russell Cleo Wooldridge, 89, of Jonesboro died Monday, Oct. > 24, > at Manila Nursing Home. > Born at Walnut Ridge, he lived in Northeast Arkansas all of his life. He > was a World War II U.S. Army veteran, retired from Crane Company and a > member of Cottage Home Baptist Church. > Survivors include his wife, Hettie Barringer Wooldridge of Manila; and > two > sisters, Gladys Wooldridge and Alta Tate, both of Bono. > He was preceded in death by his parents, Rufus and Cena Hogan Wooldridge; > and three brothers, Ike Wooldridge, Joe Wooldridge, and Paul Ray > Wooldridge. > Graveside services will be at 10 a.m. Thursday at Pine Log Cemetery with > Wyndell King officiating. Roller-Farmers Union Funeral Home is in charge > of > arrangements. > Pallbearers will be E.J. Buhrmester, David Shelton, Roger Vines, Jerry > Coleman, Cody Thornton and Levi Thornton. > > > > 1900 Census, Randolph County, Arkansas, Warm Springs Twp, p 166B, 14 June, > 1900: > 51 123 123 Wooldridge, Isaac Head M W Mar 1865 35 M17 ARTNIN(?) Farmer > 52 123 123 Wooldridge, Nancy Wife F W Aug 1867 32 M17 SCSCSC 9 children, > 7 > living > 53 123 123 Wooldridge, Ella Dau F W Jul 1886 13 S ARARSC > 54 123 123 Wooldridge, Onie Dau F W Feb 1888 12 S ARARSC > 55 123 123 Wooldridge, Willie Son M W May 1890 10 S ARARSC > 56 123 123 Wooldridge, Rufus Son M W Aug 1894 5 S ARARSC > 57 123 123 Wooldridge, Jane Dau F W Nov 1896 3 S ARARSC > 58 123 123 Wooldridge, Ollie Dau F W Jan 1898 2 S ARARSC > 59 123 123 Wooldridge, Lessie Dau F W Mar 1900 3/12 S ARARSC > 60 123 123 Allen, Ollie Boarder F W May 1882 18 S ARARSC > > > Peggy Brooks Cannady > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ >

I'd like to believe most people don't realize at what great lengths you've gone through to get what information you have. Sure, there are people who are just plain lazy and know they're robbing you blind of all your information without giving proper credit or offering to pay for the research, copies, etc. And like you said there are, unfortunately, unethical people who are taking the information that you've given to them out of the goodness of your hearts and are turning around and making a profit on it. But what do you do? I think when you get a query it's fair to ask questions to try to weed out which type of person is contacting you. Like Lanita said, she asks lots of questions before giving out any information. I think that's the only safe thing to do. Even then, there is no guarantee that person won't turn around and sell to others what you've graciously given to them. I'm the nerdy type person who is so excited when someone shares information with me that I am beside myself and sometimes forget to give proper credit or offer to pay for research, etc. Some people just look at me like I'm so weird when I say I was excited to find this out or to find out that particular piece of information. They just don't have the genealogy bug like the rest of us. And when someone unselfishly shares with me I would drop to my knees and kiss their feet if I could. I have worked 25+ years on my family genealogy so if someone is willing to share their treasure with me I am thrilled at their generosity. But be assured that most of us absolutely do appreciate whatever information is given to us. And we certainly don't mind having the integrity of our requests "tested" if you will, by being asked a few questions. As in anything, you have those, like during Hurricane Katrina who were trying to take advantage of a situation and making a profit from it. Geez, I didn't realize I had so much to say on this subject! Kimberly -----Original Message----- From: Pat Miller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Topic of Discussion: how much do you share at 1st contact? Lanita, There are people out there in cyberspace that are doing research for other people, charging them and getting their info from us for free. Not ethical at all. There are those who are so excited to find us that they are a nervous wreck and don't know what to ask for or whether they should. But, the ones that bother me are those who ask nebulous question that require "all" your information and you never hear from them. I no longer give much until I ask lots of questions. A recent example is a person who didn't even give their name, was trying to tie into my Moore line; she gave me lots of info and said she "knew" that we came from the same line. WRONG! Bad bad research done on that one. I turned this person over to the most knowledgeable person on genealogy that I knew and she set the person on a straight and narrow path to better research. But, I remember when I first started and got set straight by the same person....I will be eternally grateful to her. Perhaps we need to do a little bit of training as we go along. This site was one of my training sites and I appreciate it. I think we all need to get aquatinted with the person that is asking for info before giving them anything more that a very small bit of basic information. Pat Miller Dallas,TX Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > I know we have mentioned this before, but wondering if any have > changed their minds, etc., or what your views on the matter. Bear in > mind, we have several new people on the list.... > > I'm sure we've all had those who wanted everything from us, and > didn't give back much.... do you still share as much as you have at > the 1st contact, or did you ever, or DO you ever? > > I USED to do the whole outline of my line they wanted [names, dates, > burial sites and even where they were in the Census], but found much > of my info online with no mention that they got it from ME!! THEY > didn't share much with me in return, but.... > > SO, do you still give as much? I don't... am I being selfish?? If I > see that the other person sends me info that is detailed, documented, > or even pictures... something REALLY helpful, then I re-email with > more of my stuff..... am I being selfish? I want to be generous, but I > do NOT want to be taken advantage of any more..... I pride myself on > having the documentation so I am pretty thorough... but, I continue to > be at a loss and feel guilty for not giving all I have to the other > person.... > > Thoughts???? > > > Lanita > > I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower. > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/

When I was brand new at researching, I made alot of mistakes.... I WISH I had known to: 1. site your sources; use census records, tombstone data, marriage licenses, obits, and DON'T consider so and so's distant relative who "HEARD THAT" as a reliable documented source, use as a guide, but don't depend upon it just because 'they wouldn't lie about it'.... [OR a county history book, for that matter, when it would have been something given from memory.. memories fail, documents don't!] 2. start with your own family info; use and gather what you know 1st hand, and THEN double check with that person if they are living..... work backwards only after you have all the dates and info on those immediate lines.. Don't assume that 'everyone knows that', when chances are, 'everyone in the family' doesn't!! 3. don't SKIP a generation.... that can lead you into a wrong line with much wasted time on someone not connected. 1st line of defense, is the CENSUS, and if you don't have access to the census, find someone who does! There are many of us out here who love to help others with their documentation 4. when posting a query on a mailing list or message board, or personal email, always put the SURNAME in CAPS so that it is easily scanned... and don't forget some birth years [even if they are 'abt', helps to cypher out what decade we're talking about] 5. When posting a query, NEVER PUT THE WHOLE MESSAGE IN CAPS [LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE YELLING] OR all small letters when a surname such as smith is used and you want to make it readable never forget the punctuation cause the reader may not read it the way you need for it to be read many will not even deal with a query that they don't understand or have to take time to figure out whether its smith or jones or maybe brown that you are looking for 6. Always give credit to the person who shared info with you, as the "source" as well as list their email address... even if you later find that it is incorrect, you can contact them back, or when you are 'called' on that info, you will see whether you can use it as reliable documentation or not [people aren't, legal documents are!] If they sent you the census and their info, don't forget to make a note of both of those notes. 7. Don't get so bogged down with one line that it becomes boring or overwhelmingly frustrating, or a brick wall just will NOT come down! Change to another family line, and then go back to the brick wall when you're mind and eyes are fresher.. Don't forget to research the maternal lines, they're harder, but the families can be just as interesting! If you're not having fun with one line, switch to another. 8. If you can, get copies of actual documentation.... Bible records, marriage licenses, Wills, etc. Sometimes a transcription can be wrong... sometimes someone's signature or handwriting will appear... I know when I saw the handwriting of my gggggrandmother who was the daughter of my American Revolution Patriot, it gave me goosebumps! These people ACTUALLY lived! 9. Don't forget to put your info in an orderly way.. invest in genealogy software that you can enter in the data... keep pictures and printouts in notebooks or whatever easy and orderly way of keeping track of the line....recognize that you will NEVER get done with the line, but even if you can put it in a book form of some sort for family members, most eventually will appreciate it, and some will appreciate it right away...sometimes you can get more stories and pictures when members know you're working on the history of the family. 10. If you have older members, have a real conversation with them! Leading questions such as, "did you know so and so?", or 'what do you remember as your favorite Cmas?" can lead you into very interesting stories that you will want to take notes on... you can even get a tape recorder, and lead the conversation.... some people are intimidated by a tape recorder and become uncomfortable, so be prepared with pencil and paper in hand. They will be delighted that someone in the family cares about their memories and them, and you might be surprised at the closeness you will feel towards this older person... Older people tend to care more about family history than we realize, so they are generally always willing to share what they know. I know there's a ton more that I've left out.... what have you all learned?? Lanita

Lanita, There are people out there in cyberspace that are doing research for other people, charging them and getting their info from us for free. Not ethical at all. There are those who are so excited to find us that they are a nervous wreck and don't know what to ask for or whether they should. But, the ones that bother me are those who ask nebulous question that require "all" your information and you never hear from them. I no longer give much until I ask lots of questions. A recent example is a person who didn't even give their name, was trying to tie into my Moore line; she gave me lots of info and said she "knew" that we came from the same line. WRONG! Bad bad research done on that one. I turned this person over to the most knowledgeable person on genealogy that I knew and she set the person on a straight and narrow path to better research. But, I remember when I first started and got set straight by the same person....I will be eternally grateful to her. Perhaps we need to do a little bit of training as we go along. This site was one of my training sites and I appreciate it. I think we all need to get aquatinted with the person that is asking for info before giving them anything more that a very small bit of basic information. Pat Miller Dallas,TX Lanita Sconce Smith wrote: > I know we have mentioned this before, but wondering if any have > changed their minds, etc., or what your views on the matter. Bear in > mind, we have several new people on the list.... > > I'm sure we've all had those who wanted everything from us, and > didn't give back much.... do you still share as much as you have at > the 1st contact, or did you ever, or DO you ever? > > I USED to do the whole outline of my line they wanted [names, dates, > burial sites and even where they were in the Census], but found much > of my info online with no mention that they got it from ME!! THEY > didn't share much with me in return, but.... > > SO, do you still give as much? I don't... am I being selfish?? If I > see that the other person sends me info that is detailed, documented, > or even pictures... something REALLY helpful, then I re-email with > more of my stuff..... am I being selfish? I want to be generous, but I > do NOT want to be taken advantage of any more..... I pride myself on > having the documentation so I am pretty thorough... but, I continue to > be at a loss and feel guilty for not giving all I have to the other > person.... > > Thoughts???? > > > Lanita > > I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower. > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > >

I know we have mentioned this before, but wondering if any have changed their minds, etc., or what your views on the matter. Bear in mind, we have several new people on the list.... I'm sure we've all had those who wanted everything from us, and didn't give back much.... do you still share as much as you have at the 1st contact, or did you ever, or DO you ever? I USED to do the whole outline of my line they wanted [names, dates, burial sites and even where they were in the Census], but found much of my info online with no mention that they got it from ME!! THEY didn't share much with me in return, but.... SO, do you still give as much? I don't... am I being selfish?? If I see that the other person sends me info that is detailed, documented, or even pictures... something REALLY helpful, then I re-email with more of my stuff..... am I being selfish? I want to be generous, but I do NOT want to be taken advantage of any more..... I pride myself on having the documentation so I am pretty thorough... but, I continue to be at a loss and feel guilty for not giving all I have to the other person.... Thoughts???? Lanita I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNE flower.

To Lanita and All, I am one of the new people on the list. I have been doing genealogy for the last 10 yrs. I have done alot and given alot as well. I don't always remember to give back to others as I have more then 13 lines going on. So, if I happen to forget PLEASE remind me! I am always happy to share, whatever I have. Personally, genealogy is about the family. I don't want credit for anything online or off. I do the work because I love it and its my hobby. If you get something from me fine. I do NOT expect to be given credit because you talked to me. These are my personal thoughts on genealogy and I don't wish to offend anyone out there and its no way my intent to do so. Most of my work comes from family direct and indirect. I'm always willing to hear what others have to say. But if they are wrong I don't make a fuss, I just figure they have the information and they'll figure it out eventually. I believe genealogy is a gift of the heart to those who have passed on. I do it because I love my family and I'm nosey..hehe again my lines for this post are as follows: SAMMONS, GASS, HAMON (HAMMOND), WOOLDRIDGE, STOUT, SMITH, MCKINNEY, VINSON, BROOKS, MONDY (MUNDY, MONDAY), BREWER, HALL, STARLING, BUCHANAN, DOWNY. Again, if I can help w/ any of the above names please contact me. Thanks, Kara Kara S.- Enjoying the genealogy puzzle! The 20th Great Grandaughter of Hugh Rose 1 Laird of Kilravock - Scotland

Well said!! Paula --- Max Evans <[email protected]> wrote: > In my opinion, it depends on how much the dues are > and how they came by the > information in the first place. If it is handed down > information, they > should share it. If they paid for the information > and are recouping the > cost, I guess it is reasonable that they get part of > the money back. If they > have a tight knit bunch that wants to control the > information for selfish > reasons I would try to get information that they > don't have, let them know > in a coy way that you have it but tell them you > cannot share it unless they > pay dues to your organization. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Wyatt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:43 PM > Subject: RE: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Topic of > Discussion/Family Associations > > > > Lanita, > > I have to agree with you on this one as I would > not have nearly as much > > info > > on my part of the Davis' and related's if I hadn't > met up with a lot of > > good > > people on the web and gotten their inputs. I feel > like its being > > restrictive > > and is cheapening the craft in a way if you try to > restrict. I will never > > agree that you should sell that type of > information as its crass and you > > really aren't benefiting yourself at all! > > > > Larry... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: carolyn boone > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:28 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MO-OREGON-HISTORY] Topic of > Discussion/Family Associations > > > > > > Hi > > I am not receiving any Mo-Oregon-History emails. > Please check and make > > sure > > all is > > well. I do enjoy all the emails. > > Thanks, > > Carolyn Taylor Boone > > > > Lanita Sconce Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay, here's the deal.... > > > > My husband is descended from the particular family > in question. I have > > alot of info on the family particularly locally, > and can get > > tombstone pics easily [locally],, but before I can > get additional info > > that goes way back with documentation, one of the > leaders of the family > > association has said that they cannot share even > the remote bit of info > > unless we become members of the association, and > thereby pay dues > > [annually]... Only THEN can they and will they > share info, if we share > > in return.... > > > > This sticks in my craw, I'm offended by it all... > but I'm beginning to > > feel like maybe, I'm just being cheap, or > stubborn, or just don't want > > to be told what I can do and what I can't do.... a > couple of people > > have shared info with me, but they are scared that > others will find out > > that they have shared 'prized' info with > non-members... > > > > Am I being illogical? I need all of your > thoughts!! Please post to the > > list. > > > > Lanita > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > > > > > > ==== MO-OREGON-HISTORY Mailing List ==== > http://www.oregoncountyhistory.net/ > >

Meri, I have alot of resources for Daviess Co., since that is where I live. I also have the 1882 History Book, the cemetery index, the 1922 History Book, and all the census. [Many of the early marriages are online so I can direct you to that too.] Contact me privately at [email protected] and tell me what you need. Lanita