This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barbara please contact me privately. I would like to ask you about your G g Grandfather Smithson. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <MO-CW-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <MO-CW-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:00 AM Subject: MO-CW-D Digest V05 #159 ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="ATT00183.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00183.eml" Content-Type: text/plain MO-CW-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 159 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Rid [Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yaho] #2 Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My re [Grams31@aol.com] #3 Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My re [Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yaho] #4 Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My re ["Keely" <kdenning@cox.net>] #5 Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My re [Grams31@aol.com] #6 Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My re [SEASNAPPIER@aol.com] #7 Robert E Lee and slaves [Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yaho] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from MO-CW-D, send a message to MO-CW-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:37:21 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051121203721.24510.qmail@web50215.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Helaina, I am glad you enjoyed the movie. I think we might have a skewed view of sexuality in the mid-Nineteenth century. I tend to think that people were pretty much the same then, and that there are always a wide range of personalities. I often read that during those days a widow was under more pressure to find a new husband quickly. I thought that the examination of the relationship between Daniel Holt and first George, and later Jake, was excellent. As you know, I was amazed to hear someone say that they thought the movie portrayed Quantrill in a heroic light. I thought it made him look like a pompous "donkey", but that might just be my personal bias. Arleigh Helaina Burton <boatrokr@hotmail.com> wrote: "Ride With the Devil" is set in an often-overlooked theater of the Civil War although the action there was as much, if not more, brutal than the battlefields. Relatives and neighbors took stands against each other and everyone was subject to the viciousness of the Bushwhackers, the Jayhawkers, or both. Although the storyline is presented from the point of view of fictional Bushwhacker Jake, the script manages to give a balanced picture of the atrocities inflicted by both sides, even William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kansas (which was in retaliation for the deaths of women and girls who were being held by Union officials merely because they were related to Quantrill's men). The filmmakers take great pains with authenticity and it's refreshing to see that the Confederate States Army WAS in fact ethnically diverse, and that African-Americans did indeed serve in its ranks while still managing to show the harsh racism of the period. If anything is less than convincing it's the romance...I thought the girl showed less moral character than typical women of the time, but Jewel gives an excellent performance. Tobey Maguire is simply outstanding. I highly recommend this movie. Excellent period piece, historically accurate, and well casted. Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:43:04 EST From: Grams31@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <81.338e6723.30b38b58@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to get this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? Barbara ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:00:12 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051121220012.77557.qmail@web50203.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barbara, It is available on VCR. I do not know about DVD. The scenes of the Lawrence Raid are rather graphic, and from what I have read, they took pains to be accurate. I had ancestors living in both Cass County, Missouri, and just a few miles outside of Lawrence. It gives the movie some personal impact. Arleigh Grams... wrote: My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to get this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? Barbara Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:04:19 -0600 From: "Keely" <kdenning@cox.net> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003f01c5eeef$e773d650$43806744@homevbklfb59d0> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was able to find it on DVD on Ebay. Keely Kansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arleigh Birchler" <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" > Barbara, > > It is available on VCR. I do not know about DVD. The scenes of the > Lawrence Raid are rather graphic, and from what I have read, they took > pains to be accurate. I had ancestors living in both Cass County, > Missouri, and just a few miles outside of Lawrence. It gives the movie > some personal impact. > > Arleigh > > Grams... wrote: > My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills > raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to > get > this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? > Barbara > > > > Arleigh Birchler, BSN > 69 Gray Ghost Lane > Benson NC 27504 > (919) 934-6323 > > (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) > > > Musick/Porter Fan Club > Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #5 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:09:09 EST From: Grams31@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <96.33d95d49.30b3ad95@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #6 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:38:56 EST From: SEASNAPPIER@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1ff.e39327d.30b3c2a0@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Donald Gilmore was a Technical Director for ''Ride With The Devil"". You will certainly enjoy his new book, ""War On The Missouri/Kansas Border"", published by Pelican Publishing and available for Christmas I believe. Donald Gilmore is a Native Missourian, who's research and insight shouldn't be missed by any interested in the subject. Claiborne Scholl Nappier ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Robert E Lee and slaves.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Robert E Lee and slaves.eml" X-Message: #7 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051122031003.75328.qmail@web50205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Robert E Lee and slaves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a discussion about elevating Civil War figures to the status of perfect heroes, someone mentioned that Robert E Lee authorized taking African-Americans captured during the Gettysburg Campaign back to Virginia to be sold. A friend questioned how that could be since they were retreating, and were barely able to get their own wounded back. Does anyone know more about this story? Is there a source for it? 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