marc, I am glad you added the smiley face on the end. I won't have to repeat my oft stated low opinion of William Clarke Quantrill, James H Lane, William Anderson, or John Brown. Since I don't have to mention how much I despise these criminals, I won't have to be subjected to the cat-calls and demands for my head from those who consider them heroes. Arleigh marc wrote: H**, Yep, the original question (which has evolved due to environmental factors) asked about which general on the other side (are there really still sides?) ranked highest in our opinions in terms of personal integrity and conduct. Being of Confederate ancestry, I would have to put in my vote for Grant. As to my own side's generals, Longstreet and Joe Johnston deserve particularly high marks in my book, and Lee certainly merits consideration. Now, Arleigh, don't make another impassioned argument for the personal integrity of Quantrill. His fine, upstanding character notwithstanding, he wasn't a general... ;^) marc Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN c/o Helaina Hinson Burton 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love