I am confused with the following terms: "full-war"; "full scale civil war"; "bona fide civil war." I am not certain what is being stated. I am not refuting what is being said, but I would like some clarification. Thanks Don Knight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arleigh Birchler" <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: [MO-CW] Re: {Civil War} Re: correct attribution > jcl, > > I agree that the Kansas/Missouri War did not reach the level of a full-war > until 1861. Prior to that it was civil unrest. It would not be a "civil > war" since it was between two different governments, and not within one > state. The Ozark Civil War was in fact, a full scale "civil war". It was > fought in Missouri, Arkansas, and part of the Indian Nations. In each > place there were strong groups with opposing political views. This was a > bona fide "civil war". > > The "cis-Mississippi War" is usually referred to as "The US Civil War". > There are endless alternative names for the War, and continual fighting > about whether it qualifies as a "civil war". There were, however, local > civil wars in the various states in which it was fought. > > Arleigh > > jcl*** wrote: > Arleigh: > > I'm the one who said "war is when force replaces law and reason." > > Don't know if what you call "The Kansas/Missouri War, the Ozark Civil War, > and that war in the Cis-Mississippi" constitutes a full-blown civil war, > mainly because the "opposition" wasn't organized well enough to overthrow > the whole federal govt. Might qualify as civil unrest or local > insurrections, like Shays Rebellion or the Whiskey Rebellion. > > * * * > > > Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN > c/o Helaina Hinson Burton > 69 Gray Ghost Lane > Benson NC 27504 > (919) 934-6323 > > (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) > > > Musick/Porter Fan Club > Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Somehow I don't feel it fitting to refer to any war as "civil." Isn't the term an oxymoron? Did the troops in battle address their opponents in a gentlemanly fashion or did they resort to hoots and catcalls? Did they apologize after shooting some poor lad from another state or did they leave him bleeding on the battlefield? It strikes me that War of Northern Aggression and War of Southern Rebellion are much more appropriate terms. It matters only to historians to standardize such terminology but if it must be done I would prefer "the Struggle for Southern Freedom." Bill, in KC =-=-=-=-= Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: {Civil War} Re: correct attribution >I am confused with the following terms: "full-war"; "full scale civil >war"; "bona fide civil war." I am not certain what is being stated. I am >not refuting what is being said, but I would like some clarification. > Thanks > Don Knight