Arleigh, There were 3 black men who rode with Quantrill. They were very well thought of. After the war, one of them, John Nolan, attended the Quantrill Reunions and at his funeral was called "a man among men." Rose Mary Lankford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arleigh Birchler" <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: [MO-CW] [RaceSlave] {Civil War} 65,000 - Scott K Williams - his response > "He explains it clearly http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/blackcs.htm " > > So he does. But I am talking to folks who see the words "Black Confederate" and the number "65,000", and immediately respond: "That a lie! There were not 65,000 African soldiers legally enlisted in the Confederate Army". I have tried to talk about slaves forced to build fortifications, and they respond with the same denial about "legally enlisted soldiers". > > It would be nice to actually talk about the roles of Africans in the Southern states without having this automatic response. I am struggling to find a way to ask questions without being labeled a "Neo-Confederate". I have yet to determine if Ed Bearss quotation is taken out of context, at least by implication. > > Brock wrote: > "We have not yet gone into detail about how he defined his terms, or how he arrived at the 65,000 number." > > He explains it clearly http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/blackcs.htm > > > Brock > > The grandson of Francis Scott Key, Francis Key Howard, the editor of the Baltimore Exchange, arrested by Lincoln and imprisoned at Fort McHenry. > > September 13, 1861. > > "The flag which (my grandfather) had then so proudly hailed, I saw waving at the same place over the victims of as vulgar and brutal a despotism as modern times have witnessed." > > When he was finally released on November 27, 1862 he wrote: > > "We came out of prison just as we had gone in, holding the same just scorn and detestation [for] the despotism under which the country was prostrate, and with a stronger resolution that ever to oppose it by every means to which, as American freemen, we had the right to resort." > > > > Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN > c/o Helaina Hinson Burton > 69 Gray Ghost Lane > Benson NC 27504 > (919) 934-6323 > > (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) > > > Musick/Porter Fan Club > Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Rose, I am familiar with those. The movie "Ride with the Devil" had a main character modeled on them. Arleigh rose <hickoryflatoutlaws@centurytel.net> wrote: Arleigh, There were 3 black men who rode with Quantrill. They were very well thought of. After the war, one of them, John Nolan, attended the Quantrill Reunions and at his funeral was called "a man among men." Rose Mary Lankford Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN c/o Helaina Hinson Burton 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love

There were also American Indians who fought with the south (documented). One was THE last confederate general to surrender (General Stand Watie - Cherokee). Wonder why it's such a great leap from AI's to Blacks being in the war.