What most folks do is blend the Civil War into one mess. Missouri was the last state to decide and then there was Kansas. The Civil War as it is called really busted some Missouri Butt. Civil War is the Eastern States. Missouri was sometihing different..you better be wise and educate all. It just wasn't what you were taught about. Missouri was something different. Claiborne Scholl Nappier

KIRBY, JUST HAD TO ASK HOW YOU GOT SUCH A WEIRD FIRST NAME. IS IT FAMILY? POSSIBLY FROM S.W. MO ?

Adruain-- Hope you can find a source. It's something I would like to use in my own writing, but as is, it is something I would have to consider to be interesting but unusuable in light of the fraud that is being uncovered relating to southeast Missouri Civil War history. Thanks, Kirby Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Cato324@wmconnect.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Burn Order Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:11:25 EDT > > Kirby > I got this from a Cato researcher, who has contact with > an archives researcher. I will try to get the source. > > Adruain > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > the utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying > to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address > but change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/

Kirby I got this from a Cato researcher, who has contact with an archives researcher. I will try to get the source. Adruain

Hi Adruain! I too would like to know where the records of the unit involved in the "burn order" can be found. Many thanks. Al in Music City ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Ross" <civilwar@missouri.usa.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Burn Order > Adruain-- > Can you advise us of the archival source of the burn order? > Thanks, Kirby Ross > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cato324@wmconnect.com > To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MO-CW] Burn Order > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 07:53:58 EDT > >> >> Hdqrs. Post of Patterson, Patterson Mo May 7 186? >> >> Colonel Maline? >> >> In compliance with instructions I sent Lt Wildey Co C 7th >> Ks Cav to the residences of the McGees, Cato and Cowley >> with instructions to burn their premises, confiscate their >> property, and bring their families to this place which was >> done.The property confiscated consists of one ox wagon, >> two yoke of oxen, ten head of young cattle, some of which >> will do for beef and some four hundred pounds of side meat. >> The familis with their clothing and household furniture will >> be sent to Pilot Knob for your disposal. The heads of these >> families are the most noted desperadoes in this section of >> the country. >> >> Respectfully, >> Your obediant servant >> James Smith Capt >> County ? Post >> >> These women and children were taken to Pilot Knob and >> after a few days were released to go back home. (homes >> that were burned). My question is: Is there a record at Pilot >> Knob of who these women and children might be?? >> >> >> Adruain Cato >> >> >> ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to >> the utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying >> to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address >> but change the -L- to a -D- >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > ___________________________________________________ > Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Dr Edward C Smith, There has been a lot of discussion on various groups I am on about these two statements. Do you know of a way to contact Ed Bearss to see if his statement might have been taken out of context, or what he meant to say? We would also like to see if we can find out how Scott Williams meant to define his terms in saying that there were over 65,000 Southern blacks in the Confederate ranks, and that over 13,000 of them "Saw the Elephant." I have communicated with Mr Williams in the past, but do not currently have an email address for him. Arleigh http://www.american.edu/cas/prog_am_studies.cfm [Black Confederates Why haven't we heard more about them? National Park Service historian, Ed Bearrs, stated, "I don't want to call it a conspiracy to ignore the role of Blacks both above and below the Mason-Dixon line, but it was definitely a tendency that began around 1910" Historian, Erwin L. Jordan, Jr., calls it a "cover-up" which started back in 1865.] [It has been estimated that over 65,000 Southern blacks were in the Confederate ranks. Over 13,000 of these, "saw the elephant" also known as meeting the enemy in combat. These Black Confederates included both slave and free. The Confederate Congress did not approve blacks to be officially enlisted as soldiers (except as musicians), until late in the war. But in the ranks it was a different story.] Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN c/o Helaina Hinson Burton 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love

Adruain-- Can you advise us of the archival source of the burn order? Thanks, Kirby Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Cato324@wmconnect.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MO-CW] Burn Order Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 07:53:58 EDT > > Hdqrs. Post of Patterson, Patterson Mo May 7 186? > > Colonel Maline? > > In compliance with instructions I sent Lt Wildey Co C 7th > Ks Cav to the residences of the McGees, Cato and Cowley > with instructions to burn their premises, confiscate their > property, and bring their families to this place which was > done.The property confiscated consists of one ox wagon, > two yoke of oxen, ten head of young cattle, some of which > will do for beef and some four hundred pounds of side meat. > The familis with their clothing and household furniture will > be sent to Pilot Knob for your disposal. The heads of these > families are the most noted desperadoes in this section of > the country. > > Respectfully, > Your obediant servant > James Smith Capt > County ? Post > > These women and children were taken to Pilot Knob and > after a few days were released to go back home. (homes > that were burned). My question is: Is there a record at Pilot > Knob of who these women and children might be?? > > > Adruain Cato > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to > the utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying > to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address > but change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/

Click of this link: http://www.missouricivilwarmuseum.org/benton.htm<http://www.missouricivilwarmuseum.org/benton.htm> for an interesting description of Benton Barracks. I found it on Google. Cindy

Freak, Benton Barracks interests me for several reasons. If I recall correctly, it is no longer there. I think there is a St Louis fairgrounds there now. My g-g-grandfather, William Henry Musick (along with most of companies C and G of the 106th Illinois Infantry) was paroled there after being captured by Forrest in West Tennessee. The Barracks is named for Thomas Hart Benton, the father-in-law of General Fremont. He had been a Colonel under Andrew Jackson during the Creek Wars and 1812. He later moved to Missouri, where he served as US Senator. He opposed the Kansas/Nebraska Act, and was generally anti-slavery. Another ancestor of mine, Burton Litton McFerrin, was a 2nd lieutenant under Col Benton and Gen Jackson. He named one of his sons Jackson Benton McFerrin. Jackson Benton's son, Samuel Burton McFerrin, served in the Confederate Army from start to finish. Jackson Benton might also have enlisted in the Missouri State Guard, and fought at Lone Jack with his son, but the records are scant, and inconclusive. Arleigh civilwarfreak <confederate_at_heart@yahoo.com> wrote: The Benton Barracks are mentioned in my gggrandfather's military records. I have more than a few ancestors who fought for the Union. Most of the ones I have are on my dad's side (Burris). I've been able to get info on that line back to the 1700s in VA/NC. I can't remember which state is first, VA or NC (my papers are buried at the moment). My gggrandfather was born in OH and was living in IA when he enlisted in Co K 7th Iowa Volunteer Infantry (later Iowa Veteran Volunteers). As soon as finances allow, I'll be ordering more military and pension records from that National Archives. I have a book on the Lawrence massacre. Part of the 'civil war' between Kansas and Missouri that had been going on for years before the start of the Civil War, and it continued during the Civil War. Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN c/o Helaina Hinson Burton 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love

Hdqrs. Post of Patterson, Patterson Mo May 7 186? Colonel Maline? In compliance with instructions I sent Lt Wildey Co C 7th Ks Cav to the residences of the McGees, Cato and Cowley with instructions to burn their premises, confiscate their property, and bring their families to this place which was done.The property confiscated consists of one ox wagon, two yoke of oxen, ten head of young cattle, some of which will do for beef and some four hundred pounds of side meat. The familis with their clothing and household furniture will be sent to Pilot Knob for your disposal. The heads of these families are the most noted desperadoes in this section of the country. Respectfully, Your obediant servant James Smith Capt County ? Post These women and children were taken to Pilot Knob and after a few days were released to go back home. (homes that were burned). My question is: Is there a record at Pilot Knob of who these women and children might be?? Adruain Cato

D P; I think your take on it matches what a lot of others think. The main complaint I have heard over the last few days is that it is too "Politically Correct". There is also some concern that it emphasizes the Black History aspects too much. I don't know where the folks come from who make these comments, but they are of interest. I did hear a complaint that the photos of Ft Sumter Burns selected to use at the beginning are of the fort much later in the War, after it had been bombarded by Union cannons for months and months without end. There was also a complaint of a photo of a confederate with a beard while discussing Thomas J Jackson. The person said it was not Jackson. I noticed it when the scene came, and I think it could be Jackson. He has no insignia of rank, and a sloppy uniform. The face is in profile, and not very distinct, but it could certainly be the famous general, just not one of the more common photos used so often. I am enjoying watching it. Just saw the section on "The Kingdom of Jones". There is a lot about the whole anti-Confederate feeling in the South, and several quotes from Governor Brown of Georgia. I plan to watch the rest of it. Arleigh PS: If this seems off-topic, please let me know. RLB D P wrote: My feelings on the Burns/CW series is that it is a good starting place. It gave the public enough to wet their appetite, and I think it introduced a large group of curious people to our subject. Like was mentioned earlier, I also noticed that Shelby Foote's books clashed (on a few points) with the presentation. (But even he claimed not to be a historian) Nobody's perfect.... D :-) Arleigh Birchler, MDiv, BSN c/o Helaina Hinson Burton 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love

Nancy: I too really appreciated the Ken Burns Civil War series on PBS. I really loved the music. I purchased it on DVD. As for Shelby Foote, I could listen to him talk for hours & hours. There is just something about him that is so charming. Maybe it is the old-time southern gentleman thing or his accent. He has been on Book TV several times & he has written several novels, some what based on his life. I hope to purchase them, as they sound as if they would be very good reading. Take care, Belinda NbBowen@aol.com wrote: I thought the Ken Burns Civil War series was fairly well balanced, but, of course, with a little bias toward the North. The amount of research he'd done was prodigious and the use of period photographs and music added a nice contextual dimension. I'd like to watch it again. What say you? Nancy B. ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Janet, I found your Naril Politte listed as Maria Politte on CivilWar data.com. (It says "possibly Naril Politte b. 10-30-1836 in Old Mines Mo, d. 8-28-1920) He was in the 15th MO, co "F", and fought at many battles in the west, such as Resaca, Kennesaw Mountain, Murfreesbora, Chickamauga. They marched with Sherman, and also fought at Franklin and Nashville. I don't know how the spelling mistake came to be, but if it listed like this on his records, you should mail for them that way. I would mail for them both ways, just in case. Lorie Castro

You need to order his military papers, and pensions records. They take a while to get, but they are often loaded with info, (sometimes not!) You get them from the national archives, and you can go to their website for the form. Also, the Adjugant (I know I spelled that wrong) General's report's are very helpful. I ordered mine from a historian named Bob Schmidt. I don't know if he still does it, or if his address has changed, but this is the one that I have: Bob Schmidt, 5984 Hwy Y, French Village, MO 63036. He charged a small fee for the copies. Good luck! Lorie Castro

Hello List, As you can tell, I am very interested in this topic. I know that my great grandfather, Naril Politte, was in Company F 15th Missouri Infantry. He has a government marker on his grave. Is there any way I can find out exactly which of the actions below he was in? Was it possible he was in all of them? How can I find out more on his military life experiences? This is what was on the internet when I did a few searches. (This is a very popular subject on the internet. I was sent to many sites to find this one.) Do I have the right site? Was this a Union or a Confederate unit? Yes I am still a very much a novice on this subject. Can I find out if he was ever wounded or captive? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank Janet 15th Regiment Infantry Organized at St. Louis, Mo., August and September, 1861. Moved to Jefferson City, Mo., September, 1861. Attached to Fremont's Army of the West to January, 1862. 5th Brigade, Army of Southwest Missouri, to March, 1862. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to May, 1862. 1st Brigade, 5th Division, Army of Mississippi, to September, 1862. 35th Brigade, 11th Division, Army of Ohio, to October, 1862. 35th Brigade, 11th Division, 3rd Army Corps, Army of Ohio, to November, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, Right Wing 14th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to January, 1863. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, 20th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to October, 1863, 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, 4th Army Corps, to April, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 2nd Division, 4th Army Corps, to June, 1865. 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, 4th Army Corps, to August, 1865. Dept. of Texas to December, 1865. SERVICE.--Fremont's Campaign against Springfield, Mo., October 4-November 8, 1861. Moved to Rolla, Mo., and duty there until February, 1862. Curtis' Campaign in Missouri and Arkansas against Price February and March. Advance on Springfield February 2-11. Pursuit of Price into Arkansas February 14-29. Battles of Pea Ridge, Ark., March 6-8. March to Batesville April 5-May 3. Moved to Cape Girardeau, Mo., May 11-22; thence to Pittsburg Landing, Tenn., May 23-26. Siege of Corinth May 27-30. Pursuit to Booneville May 31-June 6. At Rienzi until August 26. Moved to Cincinnati, Ohio, August 26-September 14; thence to Louisville, Ky., September 17-19. Pursuit of Bragg into Kentucky October 1-16. Battle of Perryville, Ky., October 8. March to Nashville, Tenn., October 16-November 7. Duty at Nashville until December 26. Advance on Murfreesboro December 26-30. Battle of Stone's River December 30-31, 1862, and January 1-3, 1863. Duty near Murfreesboro until June. Expedition toward Columbia March 4-14. Middle Tennessee (or Tullahoma) Campaign June 23-July 7. Fairfield June 27-29. Estill Springs July 2. Reconnaissance to Anderson July 11-14. Occupation of Middle Tennessee until August 16. Passage of Cumberland Mountains and Tennessee River and Chickamauga (Ga.) Campaign August 16-September 22, Battle of Chickamauga September 19-20. Siege of Chattanooga September 24-November 23. Chattanooga-Ringgold Campaign November 23-27. Orchard Knob November 23-24. Mission Ridge November 25. Pursuit to Graysville November 26-27. March to relief of Knoxville, Tenn., November 28-December 8. Operations in East Tennessee December, 1863, to February, 1864. Dandridge January 16-17, 1864. Moved to Chattanooga, thence to Cleveland, Tenn., and duty there until May, 1864. Atlanta (Ga.) Campaign May 1-September 8. Demonstration on Rocky Faced Ridge and Dalton May 8-13. Buzzard's Roost Gap May 8-9. Battle of Resaca May 14-15. Adairsville May 17. Near Kingston May 18-19. Near Cassville May 19. Advance on Dallas May 22-25, Operations on line of Pumpkin Vine Creek and battles about Dallas, New Hope Church and Allatoona Hills May 25-June 5. Operations about Marietta and against Kenesaw Mountain June 10-July 2. Pine Hill June 11-14. Lost Mountain June 15-17. Assault on Kenesaw June 27. Ruff's Station July 4. Chattahoochie River July 5-17. Buckhead, Nancy's Creek, July 18. Peach Tree Creek July 19-20. Siege of Atlanta July 22-August 25. Flank movement on Jonesboro August 25-30. Battle of Jonesboro August 31-September 1. Lovejoy Station September 2-6. Operations against Hood and Forest in North Georgia and North Alabama September 29-November 3. Nashville Campaign November and December. Columbia, Duck River, November 24-27. Spring Hill November 29. Battle of Franklin November 30. Battle of Nashville December 15-16. Pursuit of Hood to the Tennessee River December 17-28. Columbia December 19. Pulaski December 25. March from Pulaski to Decatur, Ala., and duty there until April, 1865. Moved to Blue Springs April 1-5, thence to Nashville, Tenn., April 19, and duty there until June. Moved to New Orleans June 15-23, and to Port Lavaca, Texas, July 18-24. Duty there until October. Moved to Victoria October 27 and duty there until December. Mustered out December 25, 1865. Regiment lost during service 8 Officers, and 107 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 1 Officer and 106 Enlisted men by disease. Total 222.

I have always loved history. I was researching my husband's family tree and received information that a great-great grandfather was a scout and chaplain for Quantrill. Great-great grandfather changed his name when he came to the southern part of Missouri (from Ray & Clay Counties) and on down to Arkansas. I thought if I found out more about the men who rode with Quantrill, I might find out just who gg-grandfather was. I found over 1100 names of men who rode off and on with Quantrill. I ran into a brick wall, but still love to hear the stories of those who served in the Civil War. I lost my husband in 2002, and lost interest for awhile, but have recently took up my interest again. I have learned so much from this list and enjoy it so much. Thanks to all the contributors. Rose Mary Lankford www.geocities.com/outlaw72532/techie.html

Hi, I am from Gilroy, Ca. My ggreat grandpa came to CA in a covered wagon from Unionville, MO. Both his grandfathers served in MO regiments, as did 2 of my other ggggreat grandfathers. All my MO ancestors fought for the north. Jacob Guffey and Robert "Bert" Trent served in the 42nd Mo. Jacob died of typhoid fever in Tullahoma, TN, at the age of 29. John Henry Guffey served in the 39th MO. Sam Newman served in the 3rd & 11th MO cav. Direct ggggreat grandfathers Early Welch served for the 22nd AL, CSA, Elisha Holland for the 10th Ky cav, CSA, William Davis for the 10th AR cav, CSA, John Williams 7th Iowa cav. USA, and William Leonard, 24th MI USA. I also have lots of ggggreat uncles who served for both the north and the south. I enjoy anything Civil War...I enjoy reading, re enactments, writing, geneology. I have enjoyed researching my ancestors during the Civil War and learning what they have experienced. For example, Jacob Guffey didn't enlist until 1864, possibly because of the threat of draft. He had been married less than a year, and his wife was pregnant with their first child when he was sent south the TN for service. He was one of 7 brothers, all who enlisted for service. He was also one of four who died of disease by wars end. Jacob's only child was born in Nov. 1864. Jacob and his brother James was sick at the time with bronchitis. James died in Jan. of "chronic diarrhea". His brother Henry died in Feb. of typhoid. Meanwhile, Jacob's wife and newborn baby at home are struggling to survive, as they were also raising her three younger brothers. April 10, 1865, Jacob fell ill with typhoid fever. He was sent to Tullahoma Hosp. where he died, May 13. He had yet to be paid for his service in the war at the time of his death. His widow struggled until 1871. She couldn't keep her farm running after her then 18 year old brother died (that she raised) that year. She became declared legally insane, and everything she owned was sold to pay her debts. Jacob's death was a tragedy, and the effects of it were awful for his wife, and son. The more I learn about the people who endured the war, the more I respect them all. As for Gary Scheel, he was able to have James Guffey's headstone replaced. I couldn't locate James' grave, but I knew he died in St. Louis in Jan. 1865, and had to be buried there. Sure enough, he was, and Gary discovered, but with a mispelled headstone. So for 140 years he was buried under an incorrect tombstone. Gary was amazing, he knew how to go about it, and who to talk to, and when I visited St. Louis last year, I was very proud to put flowers on James Guffey's brand new military headstone. Gary had responded to a posting I had put here on this Civil War list. Lorie Castro, GIlroy, CA

My great-grandfather was a German immigrant who came to America in 1852. He enlisted as a Pvt. on Sept. 20, 1861, for three years, at Davenport, Iowa, and served in the First Flying Battery of the Missouri Horse Artillery. His Company CO was Capt. Elberts and they were part of Gen. Fritz Siegel's group. Evidently, Gen Siegel was really inspiring to the German troops, and there was a saying that they said proudly "I fights mit Siegel". He probably didn't know much more English that that. My g-grandfather "injured himself while helping a group of men get an artillery piece out of a ditch" in Sept. 1861 after/during a battle. (This comment has been passed down in my family - he developed a hernia.) He was hospitalized for a bit in St.Louis, then went home to Davenport for a bit, and then rejoined his unit in Jan. to complete his enlistment. He was released from duty "near Rome, Georgia" on Aug. 25, 1964, according to his record from the Natl.Archives. He died in 1890 ! in Nebraska, and never applied for veteran's benefits. I have copies of his records. Cindy

I have been interested in genealogy and the War of Northern Aggression since I retired in 2000. Since than I have found that my GG Grandfather Henry Foster Evans of Dallas Co. MO (on my Mothers side) served in Company A, Dallas Co. Home Guards, then Aug. 20 1861 enlisted in 24th MVA, Co. F (Pontooners) in Rolla MO and was mustered out Oct. 15, 1864 in St. Louis, MO. He is buried in Dallas Co. and I place a flag on his grave every Decoration Day. On my father�s side, my GG Grandmother Mary Ann Chittum Slack had 4 Chittum brothers serving the Confederacy in Virginia. 'Tis a privilege to live in the Ozarks! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

I thought the Ken Burns Civil War series was fairly well balanced, but, of course, with a little bias toward the North. The amount of research he'd done was prodigious and the use of period photographs and music added a nice contextual dimension. I'd like to watch it again. What say you? Nancy B.