I am anxiously awaiting my copy of Kirby's new book and looking forward to learning more about Sam Hildebrand and our families in Southeast Missouri. And I too want to hear more of the story posted earlier this morning from the lady regarding her "Rebel Yell" calling great grandfather and her "Wild Bunch" from Missouri. Besides what can be found in the OR and in archives at State Universities, etc. which are most interesting, I tend to think the most precious stories are those handed down through the family, from generation to the next. Please share more of your story! Kimberly Lynch
I am currently reading "Richard Taylor; Soldier Prince of Dixie" by T Michael Parrish. Is anyone familiar with the author, or have any comments on the book? Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love
Kirby Another ironic and interesting thing in the book was the color of Sam's hair and eyes. Daniel McGee was also a redhead and had blue eyes. That's OK Kimberly good to hear from you. Adruain
Reading these postings with interest. The McGee's referred to are that of the Daniel McGee line from South Carolina, later his widow settled in Wayne County. Her son Thomas Jefferson McGee married Tibitha Cato and that's how the Cato's and McGee's mentioned here are related, and also through another marriage of Thomas' sister to a Cato man. There were some other McGee's in the area around 1820 (I believe) and although it is highly suggested I have never been certain if they were related. They were families of John McGee, Osborne McGee and Elihu McGee. Of the four McGee clans in Wayne county, Thomas' was the only one that remained - the others had moved away (to where I am not sure). Sorry for butting in here Adruain! My g-g-g grandfather was Blair McGee, Thomas and Tibitha's son. He was killed by Union troops in his front yard, in front of his 2 year old daughter and 12 year old niece on 13 Aug 1864. His niece nevr fully recovered from what she witnessed. Kim Lynch -----Original Message----- From: rose [mailto:hickoryflatoutlaws@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:22 PM To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Samuel Hildebrand Good story!!!!!!!! My late husband's g-grandfather purchased land from some McGees in Texas County, Missouri. They all supposedly came from Ray County. I have not been able to locate any of them in Ray or Clay counties. We were told that g-grandfather changed his name after the Civil War. The McGees were named B. L. "Boston" McGee, Robert M. McGee, and Margareth McGee. Wondering if they were related to the ones you mentioned? Rose Mary Lankford ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cato324@wmconnect.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Samuel Hildebrand > Cletes told me he had always heard this story and > I had heard it also from others. > The Union Army came to Confederate Major William Grimsley's > house and was going to take him as a prisoner. Major Grimsley > did not have his shoes on. He asked the men if he might put his > shoes on before they took him. He went out on the porch and put > his shoes on and when he got them on he made a run for it. He met > the Cato slaves coming up the road with a load of loose hay. The > slaves hid him under the hay and smuggled him out of the state > to Arkansas. (no doubt to Scatterville as he is only 5 or so miles > from there in the 1870 census.) William Grimsley was the first > sheriff of Bollinger Co Mo and a neighbor the the Cato's and McGee's. > My great grandfather and brothers and sisters ended up with Major > Grimsley in the 1870 Greene Co census as orphans. Their father > (my great great grandfather) died in Alton prison as a citizen on > 2/5/1863. I have no idea what happened to their mother. > > Adruain > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429
I think I have posted some about my family before but here goes with a bit. My family was Wiley Huffaker Shumate, James K Polk Shumate, (great uncles) and G-grandfather John Calvin Shumate. Their father was Hardin Nathan Shumate. There were brothers Mark Albian, Thomas, and William Nathan who were too young to serve. A sister Elizabeth married John Bond who also "rode" with the Shumates. Wiley Huffaker was a sharpshooter with Pindall's battalion at one time. His last muster shows him as deserted and then later he was a Captain under a guerilla general (?) named Crabtree. John Calvin was in Burbridge's calvary at one time. However, most of the family stories involved guerilla activities along the Osage river - they hid out in caves. In all my daddy's stories, they were always in running battles and hiding from the dreaded "yankees". When I was a child I thought yankees had horns and a tail!! The shumates were from Cole County. They moved there in the 1840s from ! Claiborn Co, TN. They were descendents of a French Huguenot named Jean Baptiste de la Chaumette. Daddy always told me Grandpa Shumate changed his name because he was "hiding" from the yankees but I think in actuality it was just americanized over the years from de la Chaumette to Shumate. Wiley Huffaker was known to us as "Uncle Wild". I have pictures of him and he does have a "wild" countenance. Supposedly he was with Joe Shelby at times but I never proved that. Grandpa (J.C.) Shumate was said to ride with a splinter group of Quantrill's. In one story the leader was someone named Todd or Dodd. I have never found proof of that either. No Shumates are named with any of Quantrills, Todds or Shelby's units. Granny Shumate was Mary Louisa Freeman. She was born in Calaway Co MO. Her pa was a union man. She were jist a green growed girl and never paid much mind neither way. Folks was all tore up in Miller Co with father and son sidin agin one another. Some fer the Southurn ! and some fer the Federals. Mary L. was avisitin kin down Miller County way when she met up with a rebel soldier name o John Calvin Shumate but then she allus did hanker after a blue eyed man. The upshot of it was her and JC got to courtin and swum the Missouri River - rode to Fulton Co AR where they married. When her Pa found out she married a Rebel soldier he throwed a wall-eyed hissy fit, and he disowned her is what he done. She was never allowed to see her kin her life long. That allus was a soreness of the heart to Granny and manys a time after she had younguns of her own that she hankered powerfully to talk to her maw and her own kin. And then the stories would start. Granny figured as prominently in the tales as Uncle Wiley and J.C. Uncle Wiley is mentioned somewhat unkindly in Judge Jenkins History of Miller Co MO. This post is getting too long so I will stop for now. I can tell you more as there is time. Thank you for asking. I love to talk about my wonderful Shumates but you are all so learned and know so much that I don't want to bore you.!! My dad was a master story teller and Im sure over the years the wonderful tales have been embellished. (outside of re-fightin the Civil War, there aint nuthin a Southerner relishes more than a good tale!) Grandpa Shumate left a ledger but didn't tell much about his exploits. All the stories were related by him and Granny and Uncle Wiley to the children who passed the stories on. Thanks for your interest. Lynchwnc@aol.com wrote: I am anxiously awaiting my copy of Kirby's new book and looking forward to learning more about Sam Hildebrand and our families in Southeast Missouri. And I too want to hear more of the story posted earlier this morning from the lady regarding her "Rebel Yell" calling great grandfather and her "Wild Bunch" from Missouri. Besides what can be found in the OR and in archives at State Universities, etc. which are most interesting, I tend to think the most precious stories are those handed down through the family, from generation to the next. Please share more of your story! Kimberly Lynch ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address MO-CW-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx
Adruain-- Thanks for your words of approval. Your input four or five years ago was critical to helping me put the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together. Also helped me connect up Asa Ladd to the Cato family. As I state in the book, his being chosen for execution at Gratiot almost certainly was more than a result of random chance. The war in southeast Missouri was intensely personal, and the descendants of those directly affected by it are quite numerous. That knowledge along with the knowledge many of them are going to be sifting through the material with a fine tooth comb made me especially cautious about providing as many details as possible as well as meticulously citing my sources. Certainly the McGee/Cato story is a compelling one and deserves to be told in more detail. I've got one or two other southeast Missouri projects in the works that I will be integrating the saga of your family into, so as you come up with more information please let me know. The Peterson Papers will probably be a good source of information, but that is going to take a large-scale effort to go through page by page and so far I have just touched the tip of the iceberg there. By the way, my sincere apologies for misspelling your name in the book acknowledgements. I got it right in the body of the book, but my hand went astray when I was typing the acknowledgements. I caught that error around eight weeks ago, but the book was too far along in the printing process to correct. If and when there is a second printing and/or a paperback edition I'll get it right. Thanks, Kirby Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Cato324@wmconnect.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MO-CW] Samuel Hildebrand Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:37:31 EST > > Kirby > I finally got my book from the Arkansas Press. > Great job!!!! I think I now know why my family went > to Arkansas and why they stayed there, until my > great grandfather ventured back to Butler Co Mo. > Did I ever tell you the story as related to me by > Cletes Ellinghouse, as to how Major William Grimsley > got to Arkansas?? > > Adruain Cato > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and > will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact > Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and > friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/
Good story!!!!!!!! My late husband's g-grandfather purchased land from some McGees in Texas County, Missouri. They all supposedly came from Ray County. I have not been able to locate any of them in Ray or Clay counties. We were told that g-grandfather changed his name after the Civil War. The McGees were named B. L. "Boston" McGee, Robert M. McGee, and Margareth McGee. Wondering if they were related to the ones you mentioned? Rose Mary Lankford ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cato324@wmconnect.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Samuel Hildebrand > Cletes told me he had always heard this story and > I had heard it also from others. > The Union Army came to Confederate Major William Grimsley's > house and was going to take him as a prisoner. Major Grimsley > did not have his shoes on. He asked the men if he might put his > shoes on before they took him. He went out on the porch and put > his shoes on and when he got them on he made a run for it. He met > the Cato slaves coming up the road with a load of loose hay. The > slaves hid him under the hay and smuggled him out of the state > to Arkansas. (no doubt to Scatterville as he is only 5 or so miles > from there in the 1870 census.) William Grimsley was the first > sheriff of Bollinger Co Mo and a neighbor the the Cato's and McGee's. > My great grandfather and brothers and sisters ended up with Major > Grimsley in the 1870 Greene Co census as orphans. Their father > (my great great grandfather) died in Alton prison as a citizen on > 2/5/1863. I have no idea what happened to their mother. > > Adruain > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >
Cletes told me he had always heard this story and I had heard it also from others. The Union Army came to Confederate Major William Grimsley's house and was going to take him as a prisoner. Major Grimsley did not have his shoes on. He asked the men if he might put his shoes on before they took him. He went out on the porch and put his shoes on and when he got them on he made a run for it. He met the Cato slaves coming up the road with a load of loose hay. The slaves hid him under the hay and smuggled him out of the state to Arkansas. (no doubt to Scatterville as he is only 5 or so miles from there in the 1870 census.) William Grimsley was the first sheriff of Bollinger Co Mo and a neighbor the the Cato's and McGee's. My great grandfather and brothers and sisters ended up with Major Grimsley in the 1870 Greene Co census as orphans. Their father (my great great grandfather) died in Alton prison as a citizen on 2/5/1863. I have no idea what happened to their mother. Adruain
I haven't heard about it Adruain and would love to hear it. Also, the lady who posted a wonderful message about her "heroes" these are the stories that bring the past back to us. It is one way I love history, the little stories people have to offer. Please, all of you tell them!!!!!!! Rose Mary Lankford ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cato324@wmconnect.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: [MO-CW] Samuel Hildebrand > Kirby > I finally got my book from the Arkansas Press. > Great job!!!! I think I now know why my family went > to Arkansas and why they stayed there, until my > great grandfather ventured back to Butler Co Mo. > Did I ever tell you the story as related to me by > Cletes Ellinghouse, as to how Major William Grimsley > got to Arkansas?? > > Adruain Cato > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >
I enjoyed your posting so much!! I think you should tell us some more of your stories!! Personal histories are important to all of us, for they tell our own stories too. I am a lurker on this site. I had great grandfathers that served in the Union Army and great uncles that served for the Confederacy. I enjoy all of the emails on this site. Chris Fisher Thiessen -----Original Message----- From: GLENN HUNT [mailto:googy@flash.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:42 AM To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MO-CW] Civil War in MO >>>>>I just wanted to tell everyone that I enjoy reading all the info you post on this list. I have posted just a few times in the past and had some ....
I just wanted to tell everyone that I enjoy reading all the info you post on this list. I have posted just a few times in the past and had some conversations with some of the listers regarding my "wild" bunch from MO. Mostly, tho I just enjoy reading because I don't have a lot to add other than my personal history which is of course, only important to me.. I grew up on stories of my g g uncles and g grandpa who served in the Confederacy (and other units as well if the stories are believed). My dad would always say, "did you know your g grandpa was a go-rilla?" Didn't take long before I realized he was speaking of guerillas of another elk. When I was a child they were my heroes, and now that I am old lady, guess they are my heroes still even tho not all were heroic. I always heard how my g grandma would tell of her handsome, blue eyed old man who would step out on the porch of a clear night and give the rebel yell - a combination of a Cherokee war cry, a Celtic shot and! all the lost lonesomeness of the southland. She used to "fear what the neighbors mought think - ahearin that ole man out thar ahowlin at the moon!". (My people weren't wealthy or educated - just common folk.) Anyway, thank you all for adding to my knowledge of Missouri during the Civil War - aside from our family stories.
Kirby I finally got my book from the Arkansas Press. Great job!!!! I think I now know why my family went to Arkansas and why they stayed there, until my great grandfather ventured back to Butler Co Mo. Did I ever tell you the story as related to me by Cletes Ellinghouse, as to how Major William Grimsley got to Arkansas?? Adruain Cato
My opinion is...........do not miss it. Claiborne Scholl Nappier
To those interested in Donald Gilmore's book: "Warfare on the Missouri/Kansas Border", he will have a book signing at The Little Dixie Bookshop, from 1:00 pm until 3:00 pm on December 10th. The shop is at 204 North Liberty, just off the NW corner of the Square in Independence, Missouri. Don Bartels
We hope there might be more...Sorry for the deverssions. Scholl, Nappier
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barbara please contact me privately. I would like to ask you about your G g Grandfather Smithson. 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No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:37:21 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051121203721.24510.qmail@web50215.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Helaina, I am glad you enjoyed the movie. I think we might have a skewed view of sexuality in the mid-Nineteenth century. I tend to think that people were pretty much the same then, and that there are always a wide range of personalities. I often read that during those days a widow was under more pressure to find a new husband quickly. I thought that the examination of the relationship between Daniel Holt and first George, and later Jake, was excellent. As you know, I was amazed to hear someone say that they thought the movie portrayed Quantrill in a heroic light. I thought it made him look like a pompous "donkey", but that might just be my personal bias. Arleigh Helaina Burton <boatrokr@hotmail.com> wrote: "Ride With the Devil" is set in an often-overlooked theater of the Civil War although the action there was as much, if not more, brutal than the battlefields. Relatives and neighbors took stands against each other and everyone was subject to the viciousness of the Bushwhackers, the Jayhawkers, or both. Although the storyline is presented from the point of view of fictional Bushwhacker Jake, the script manages to give a balanced picture of the atrocities inflicted by both sides, even William Quantrill's raid on Lawrence, Kansas (which was in retaliation for the deaths of women and girls who were being held by Union officials merely because they were related to Quantrill's men). The filmmakers take great pains with authenticity and it's refreshing to see that the Confederate States Army WAS in fact ethnically diverse, and that African-Americans did indeed serve in its ranks while still managing to show the harsh racism of the period. If anything is less than convincing it's the romance...I thought the girl showed less moral character than typical women of the time, but Jewel gives an excellent performance. Tobey Maguire is simply outstanding. I highly recommend this movie. Excellent period piece, historically accurate, and well casted. Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:43:04 EST From: Grams31@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <81.338e6723.30b38b58@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to get this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? Barbara ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:00:12 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051121220012.77557.qmail@web50203.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barbara, It is available on VCR. I do not know about DVD. The scenes of the Lawrence Raid are rather graphic, and from what I have read, they took pains to be accurate. I had ancestors living in both Cass County, Missouri, and just a few miles outside of Lawrence. It gives the movie some personal impact. Arleigh Grams... wrote: My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to get this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? Barbara Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:04:19 -0600 From: "Keely" <kdenning@cox.net> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003f01c5eeef$e773d650$43806744@homevbklfb59d0> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was able to find it on DVD on Ebay. Keely Kansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arleigh Birchler" <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" > Barbara, > > It is available on VCR. I do not know about DVD. The scenes of the > Lawrence Raid are rather graphic, and from what I have read, they took > pains to be accurate. I had ancestors living in both Cass County, > Missouri, and just a few miles outside of Lawrence. It gives the movie > some personal impact. > > Arleigh > > Grams... wrote: > My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills > raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to > get > this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? > Barbara > > > > Arleigh Birchler, BSN > 69 Gray Ghost Lane > Benson NC 27504 > (919) 934-6323 > > (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) > > > Musick/Porter Fan Club > Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #5 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:09:09 EST From: Grams31@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <96.33d95d49.30b3ad95@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Re_ [MO-CW] Re_ [GloryCloak] My review of _Ride With the Devil_.eml" X-Message: #6 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:38:56 EST From: SEASNAPPIER@aol.com To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1ff.e39327d.30b3c2a0@aol.com> Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Donald Gilmore was a Technical Director for ''Ride With The Devil"". You will certainly enjoy his new book, ""War On The Missouri/Kansas Border"", published by Pelican Publishing and available for Christmas I believe. Donald Gilmore is a Native Missourian, who's research and insight shouldn't be missed by any interested in the subject. Claiborne Scholl Nappier ______________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Robert E Lee and slaves.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Robert E Lee and slaves.eml" X-Message: #7 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Arleigh Birchler <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20051122031003.75328.qmail@web50205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Robert E Lee and slaves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a discussion about elevating Civil War figures to the status of perfect heroes, someone mentioned that Robert E Lee authorized taking African-Americans captured during the Gettysburg Campaign back to Virginia to be sold. A friend questioned how that could be since they were retreating, and were barely able to get their own wounded back. Does anyone know more about this story? Is there a source for it? Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love ------=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C5EF94.58FE3460--
Donald Gilmore was a Technical Director for ''Ride With The Devil"". You will certainly enjoy his new book, ""War On The Missouri/Kansas Border"", published by Pelican Publishing and available for Christmas I believe. Donald Gilmore is a Native Missourian, who's research and insight shouldn't be missed by any interested in the subject. Claiborne Scholl Nappier
In a discussion about elevating Civil War figures to the status of perfect heroes, someone mentioned that Robert E Lee authorized taking African-Americans captured during the Gettysburg Campaign back to Virginia to be sold. A friend questioned how that could be since they were retreating, and were barely able to get their own wounded back. Does anyone know more about this story? Is there a source for it? Arleigh Birchler, BSN 69 Gray Ghost Lane Benson NC 27504 (919) 934-6323 (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) Musick/Porter Fan Club Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love
I was able to find it on DVD on Ebay. Keely Kansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arleigh Birchler" <abirchler16@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CW] Re: [GloryCloak] My review of "Ride With the Devil" > Barbara, > > It is available on VCR. I do not know about DVD. The scenes of the > Lawrence Raid are rather graphic, and from what I have read, they took > pains to be accurate. I had ancestors living in both Cass County, > Missouri, and just a few miles outside of Lawrence. It gives the movie > some personal impact. > > Arleigh > > Grams... wrote: > My husband's g g grandfather Smithson was gut shot by one of Quantrills > raiders and died eight days later. He was a Union soldier. I would like to > get > this movie to view. Is it available on vcr or dvd? > Barbara > > > > Arleigh Birchler, BSN > 69 Gray Ghost Lane > Benson NC 27504 > (919) 934-6323 > > (Ali Sengaree - Allah'ka cli here chaya) > > > Musick/Porter Fan Club > Pleasure, Pain, Power, and Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CW Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen > Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >